The continuing adventures of The First Time Frolickers!!!!

[pixiestix]

Somebody come and join me quick, I'm lonely!!

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD91
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD69
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD53
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL34 CD46
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26/7 CD36
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL29-31 CD28
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD26
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 13 UCL 30 CD23
Muser TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL30 CD21
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle2 UCL? CD20
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD16
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 27 CD16
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 25-26 CD14
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 29 CD14
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL40 CD12
vix206 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 27 CD11
Ozziegirly TTC#1 cycle UCL 27 CD10
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD8
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL28 CD6
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL ? CD5
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL34 CD4
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-32 CD2
NovemberAli TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 30-34 CD2
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL?? CD2
Confuseddoiordonti TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 27-28
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Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
Sevans BFP 15 Nov
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov

Just a l'il update from me- have been off this thread as I was very stressed about TTC (see my other thread). My AF finally came on CD37 last period so back to square one. I'm now CD 27, been using Pre Seed and bd'ing as much as poss! Not sure how long this cycle will be but hoping not too long. Have also ordered a Clearblue FM from amazon to make life easier with guessing when I'm ovulating!

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD128
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD106
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30-32 CD94
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD90
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD27
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL 28 CD25
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL34 CD52
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD44
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD25
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 26-27 CD24
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL23-40 CD24
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26-40 CD24
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD23
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD19
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD19
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD19
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD15
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD14
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD12
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD11
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD7
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD6
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD5
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD3
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD3
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-28 CD3
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD1
Sevans TTC#1

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec

Oh Whiteroses, that sounds horrid! I hope the Mr is better soon. It's hear, hear by the way, because you like what you're hearing.

About to start the dreaded two week wait here. No idea if things are happening this month, I'm not holding up too much hope after the problems last month.

It's funny thinking about the last decade. In 1999 I was still a student, terminally single, and not a clue what to do with my life. In the following 10 years I got my degree, did a postgrad, moved home, got a rubbish job, met a man, broke up with him, decided to be single, met another man quickly afterwards, tried to be single but he was rather sweet and persistent. Ended up marrying him, bought a flat together, got responsible jobs and decided to start a family, got pregnant and lost the pregnancy, and now here we are trying again.

Happy New Year everyone

Lots to catch up with, but I'd just like to welcome Mumnerves and WorrisomeHeart I think I remember you (WorrisomeHeart) from the waiting to TTC thread, seems a long time ago now!

And huge congratulations to Eleanora, that's fantastic news

Sorry to hear of the recent AFs and BFNs - Here's to 2010

So yesterday I got a smiley face on my OPK, today I didn't get a smiley

Have I OV'd then or am I about to OV ?

So confused!

Aww Yorkshire, sorry about the Af
Hopefully 2010 is your year, keeping fingers crossed for you hun!

Claire Thanks for the welcome!

AF arrived today, at least four days early. Very disappointed, as I really thought that there was something going on in there. Have never had an early AF before so don't know what to make of it all at all. Oh well - Maybe october will be the month!

addie Sorry to hear that!

whiteroses Sounds like a fun night At least the year can only improve from that!

Talking about things changing, only 2 years ago I was swearing that I would never ever get married and never ever have kids. I'm now engaged, living with DP and trying for baby. I barely recognise myself!

Hobnob, "they" say that you'll ovulate within 12-48 hours after your positive opk. I generally go negative and then have a temp rise, so I think I O right after the opk's go negative. Lucky you for catching it on time!!

Addie, sorry about af. It's strange that it came so early, especially after you felt so different. I know it sounds silly, but are absolutely sure about af. It's just that we hear so many stories about women thinking it's af, but then finding out they're pregnant(I know, I'm insane).

It's amazing how much we've all gone through in the last 10 years! May the next 10 bring us all loads and loads of happiness and good fortune!

Whiteroses Your poor DH being so ill. I can't imagine what possessed him to wind down the window of a moving vehicle to be sick! I'm sure after cleaning up all that mess a baby will be easy.....or tell DH it's his job for the first month or so to make up for all the cleaning up after him you've done

Kaloki Can't believe your DH told your MIL when your period was late.

At least I don't have to worry about that as my DH has no idea what's going on when it comes to cycles, ovulation etc. When we first started TTC I tried to explain it, I even drew him a diagram but he still doesn't get it. He really didn't concentrate in biology at school.

Speaking of MILs, mine's coming out to stay with us next week so will have to hide thermometer and folic acid.

Yorkshire sorry about AF. At least you might still be able to get your bloods done this cycle, and you'll be one step closer to finding out what's going on.

I've also been thinking about how my life has changed over the last 10 years. I spent Millenium eve with the boyfriend I'd had since school, convinced we would eventually get married. Well I dumped him six months later, and thought I'd enjoy being single. Met DH four weeks later so that plan didn't last long! I also finished not one but 2 degrees and 2 other postgrad qualifications (I am a total nerd!), bought a house, got married, moved to the other side of the world and decided it was time to start a family. Seems like such a lot to do in such a short space of time!

I wonder what the next 10 years will bring

aly232 thanks so much, understanding all this TTC info is really hard, there's so much more to it than just having sex isn't there ?

whiteroses hope the DH is feeling a lots better now. I can deal with most disgusting things, but other people's sick is a no no!

addie so sorry that AF came.

AF is gone - so getting down to the BD!

addie i also think there might still be hope unless you are absolutely positive it is AF. I've updated you just in case it is, but let us know!

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD129
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD107
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30-32 CD95
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD91
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD28
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL34 CD53
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD45
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD26
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 26-27 CD25
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL23-40 CD25
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26-40 CD25
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD24
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD20
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD20
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD20
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD16
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD15
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD13
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD12
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD8
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD7
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD6
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD4
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD4
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-28 CD2
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD2
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD2
Sevans TTC#1

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec

Hi folks

Just checking in - hope everyone has had a good start to the New Year. Thanks for the birthday wishes and for the welcome Claire - I remember you too! (and you're right, doesn't that thread seem a long time ago??)

Sorry to those who AF has hit - here's to a more successful cycle next time!

whiteroses I kinda know what you mean about TCOYF but to be honest, it has helped so much in just letting me understand my cycles, which has in turn made me sure (as you ever can be!) that we're not 'wasting' a cycle by BDing at the wrong time. The book also says you should be BDing at every instance of EWCM as it helps the little swimmers survive while they're waiting for egg.
Sorry to hear about your DH's illness BTW, sounds like a horrible trip! Hope he's feeling better now and you've managed to get the BDing chore done!

addie I agree with the others in tems of being sure it's proper AF. Is there any possibility of it just being implantation spotting?

Well, I realised yesterday that we've actually been trying for a month longer than I thought, as we tried for a month before I got started with temping. So that puts me at 9 cycles down with no luck.. strange to think that if we'd been successful first time I'd be ready to pop now . Anyway, having the clinic appt booked in helps a bit, although I have now convinced myself that there will be something dreadfully wrong which will mean we'll never have kids... must stop obsessing!

I've updated the list to reflect the change in cycles for me...

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD129
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD107
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30-32 CD95
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD91
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD28
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL34 CD53
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD45
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD26
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 26-27 CD25
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL23-40 CD25
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26-40 CD25
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD24
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD20
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD20
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD20
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD16
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD15
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD13
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD12
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD8
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD7
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD6
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD4
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD4
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD4
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD2
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD2
Sevans TTC#1

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec

Its definitely proper AF - heavy and painful. Talk about adding insult to injury! I am trying to think positive, I ordered pre-seed to use this month, and I just bought a book about fertility so if that has any useful pearls of wisdom I will pass them on to you all. I am going to start charting my temp as well as using the OPK sticks.
I don't feel too bad now that AF has come and its the start of another cycle. The waiting to test time of the month is by far the worst in my view. At least once AF turns up you know where you stand.

Sorry to everyone who has had AF

whiteroses : hope your DH feels better soon! x

Aw Addie, sorry you have been hit by AF, that cycle really sounded hopeful.

WhiteRoses - OMG! What a rubbish start to the new year! I guess things can only go up from here!

I hit my first day of "high" on the Clearblue Monitor today, so once again, the madness of BDing starts for a week. DH is manfully stepping up to the challenge though He has definitely got over his initial "don't put pressure on me" attitude and is quite enjoying TTC now!!!

addie sorry AF got you - your symptoms earlier this week sounded so promising.

I'm now completely unsure as to when I ov'd. Was pretty certain it was day 19, but then temps never really rose by much. Got more ewcm on days 22 and 23 so got in some extra bd just in case. Temp this morning was still not up. Yet again I concluded that my ovaries must be broken

Decided that I would take DH's temp just to see if it really is me or if perhaps the thermometer is dodgy. It gave him a riduculously low temp as well. On closer inspection the end was covered in gunk - yuk - so I gave it a good clean and retook my temp (yes I know I'm not supposed to but I'm addicted to it) and lo and behold it is now consistently reading about 0.6 degrees higher than it was. I think it was the filthy thermometer and not broken ovaries all along!!! And I can't believe that I was putting it in my mouth when it was in such a state.....am surprised I haven't caught something from it Only problem is now I don't know when temp actually rose - will assume it was the later day and only test if no AF by cd 35 (12 days after latest possible ov date)

I think I have shared tmi about the poor standards of hygiene in the bunny household Am off to bleach everything in sight to make up for it!

Lol at bunny, I've had similar confusion with temps this cycle so after reading your post I quickly checked my thermometer!!!
I'm now in the horrible waiting period...
Hope those with af are feeling better.

Hoping we have some new bpf's for the new year soon.

Morning all,

I've emerged from the hut and am ready to face a new cycle again. Thanks for all the lovely comments. It i good to know that when I am down (sometimes irrationally and unreasonably) there are a bunch of fab girls here who know just how I feel!

WhiteRoses what an awful car journey . I hope your DH was suitably appreciative of your support!

Lol at Bunny. I am also having slight doubts about my thermometer, as I sometimes get no variation in temp at all. I think I may have to consider investing in a slightly more robust thermomenter, as I think my ebay bargain might not be just up to the job.

Just back from the docs, they managed to fit me in this morning for a blood test, so that's both tests done at the happropriate time. Just a swab test for me (on Wednesday) then I've got thr first round of blood tests done. Ironically there's a 2ww for the results from the progesterone test, so it looks like I'll have two 2 week waits this month! DH is waiting on his appointment at the fertility clinic (should be next week sometime) to deliver his sample and then the first round is done.

I have been pretty impressed so far with the speed of appointments, but so far everything we've done has been GP based. Waits could get longer if we need a referal to the fertility unit, but so far I am feeling reasonably well served by the NHS. [fsmiel]

And s I'm first in today, I'll update the list. Promise I've really done it this time!

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD130
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD108
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30-32 CD96
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD92
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL34 CD54
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD46
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD29
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD27
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 26-27 CD26
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL23-40 CD26
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26-40 CD26
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD25
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD21
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD21
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD21
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD17
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD16
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD14
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD13
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD9
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD8
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD7
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD5
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD5
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD5
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD3
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD3
Sevans TTC#1

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec

addie sorry to hear about the painful AF. sounds like you are well prepared for your next cycle though!

worrisome sounds like you are living up to your name! but hopefully the appointment will actually put your mind at rest instead. let us know how it goes.

bunny so funny! don't worry, we all have those moments....

yorkshire glad you got your blood test in this morning, but how ironic re the TWW!

big hello to everyone else. hope that getting back to real life after xmas and NY isn't too bad.

Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD130
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD108
Homebound TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30-32 CD96
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD92
MadameG TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL ? CD29
Hamsterlover TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL34 CD54
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD46
Mumnerves TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 25-28 CD27
Calyx TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 26-27 CD26
WhiteRoses TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL23-40 CD26
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL26-40 CD26
bunnygirl80 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 29 CD25
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL? CD21
aly323 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL 30-? CD21
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD21
Hobnob76 TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31 CD17
Muser TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 30 CD16
ceebs05 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 26?, CD14
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL28 CD13
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL ? CD9
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL30 CD8
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL29-31 CD7
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL34 CD5
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD5
WorrisomeHeart TTC#1 Cycle 9 UCL 27-28 CD5
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 15 UCL 30 CD3
addie81 TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL 28 CD3
Sevans TTC#1

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
TishTosh21 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec

Bunny* - lol! You skank! (only kidding! ) Women all over Mumsnet are now hastily cleaning their thermometers!!!

Yorks -really pleased that you got your blood tests, despite your body doing its best to mess your appointments up completely!
Bummer about the two-two-week waits though. One is definitely enough for me!

Yorkshire glad you've had the blood test done!

Bunny eeewww at the thermometer!

Well today Hobnob will mostly be confused! I had a positive OPK last Friday and a negative one on Saturday, so I entered this data into FF last night and FF still reckons I'm due to OV today!

I'm confused, I thought I'd read on the instructions of the CBD OPK that I should OV within 48 hours of having a smiley on my OPK ? So I'd have OV'd anytime from Friday night to Sunday night wouldn't I ?

Somebody please help! Do DH and I DTD tonight just to cover myself ? Has FF fucked up or what ?

If in doubt - do the deed!!

Hello everyone, can I join? I'm on the October bus as well, and am about equal parts excited and scared! We are just starting out on the TTC journey, took the scary step today of buying folic acid and a couple of pregnancy tests (I am nothing if not optimistic!). DH actually seeming more excited than scared as well, so everything quite encouraging right now

My stats: evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL ?? CD3