30s TTC - More Gin Than George BESH

[Scorpette]

Come on in ladies, the bar is fully stocked with Advocaat, Bailey's and novelty Xmas drinkies and the slaves are wearing Ann Summer 'Santa's Hat' posing pouches. Have also festooned the place with plenty of festive tat and lots of v un-eco and tacky Xmas lights and shit because I know we all love getting Xmassy dead early. There's a fireplace so you can send your wish list to Santa up the chimbley, platters of wooden spoons and coconuts on the mantlepiece and 'Mulled Wine' scented candles lighting up The Pit of Despair. Make yourselves at home!

It's all looking good, Scorpete. Is the droid due on Christmas day??

Scorpette even

Scorps You rub it on your cervix like progesterone cream. My stitch lasted ~24 hours or so.

Weewee told me she needs a baybee by August. Neeeeeeeds!

Ski, that sounds delightful. If nothing else, should get me a good tonguing off passing dogs Yeah, I know how you get your kicks when Jailbait's not available!

Yep, droid is thoughtfully due on either Xmas Day or Xmas Eve (when we will be making a 5+ hr drive to Devon - my cramps are so bad that I have to lay down with my legs splayed, as I make bellowing or lowing noises like an injured bull, so packing car, journey, unpacking and making nice with ILs should be fun, should that happen. Alternatively, me rocking backwards and forwards on chair, whilst wailing, clutching self and regurgitating food should also be a winner at Xmas Dinner). Although, of course, if I am an Xmas differ, there will be the matter of having to tell MIL she is a skankbitch and needs to start washing her hands after handling meat (or indeed, just washing her hands, full stop) and not using greasy beef-fat foil from 1985, as it could harm teh baybee - all without telling her about teh baybee.

Oooh - Ginny - goody!

Whatsallthisabout Primula? Is it something else I have missed? Thanks for the thoughts though - am in the Whole Year camp as of 31 December (but should that be a Whole Year of ovulating? 12 actual active cycles?) SWI dates are next week and all over Christmas - but we're off the the in-laws who drink heavily over Xmas (brandy at 11am anyone?) so even if I don't imbibe I don't have much hope for TSF's boys.

But in order to help us all on the way I have posted a baby hat picture on the Other Place. I knitted it All By Myself!

I am def heartened by the diffrate round here of late - the gin appears to be working!

Talking of which - lovely large G&Ts all round, young David!

Scorps - passing dogs! Would doglick be better for baybee than circa 1985 beef fat?

apparently dog saliva is v. hygenic

unless it's recently completely an anus-washing session presumably...

cunty Whose anus?

Does it matter?!

We will be trying again betwixt Christmas and New Year - I am hoping for lots of relaxed SWI and imminent diffment.

Fankooo Scorpelina of the ocean. I am a little more hopeful of xmas diffment today as temp has risen back over the coverline, not by much but at least it is going the right way. However as this is only my first month of charting I have no idea whether it means 'diffed' or 'barren'.... time will tell. Probably barren as me boobs are no longer hurty or ginormous. But I am still slapping on the progesterone cream just in case.

Wot is the deal with primula? I am lergic to dairy... I can't go slapping it on my cervix! Will goats cheese do instead?

Just been watching Animal Park (the thing about Longleat). Is it a symptom that I sobbed when they talked about putting a rhino to sleep? Or is that normal? I can't tell any more.

Its not quite Taggart I know... but its a straw and I'm hanging on tight.

My biscuits taste stale (that is NOT a euphamism). Is that a symptom? Also, another symptom is that I WANT TO WIN A BAYBEE

I must be updiffed, surely??

Polly I've just arrived home to find jailbait moist-eyed at the very same thing (dead Rhino I mean).

If you don't like Primula you can rub any non-veined cheese in to your cevix. **n.b., this may not work but it's got as much chance as sleeping with a spoon under your pillow right?

Yes stale biscuits a symptom, sobbing over a rhino a symptom and PollyPoo that is an implantation dip

Tentative congrats to Ginhag hope it is all OK.

I think we should be starting to take bets on which of the currently updiffed is having triplets, with so many there must be at least one BESH expecting triplets.

Excellent, we are all diffed for christmas, thanks Looney!

Just had a tense conversation with SIL, visiting with her 1 yr old DS. She knows all about our secondary infertility problems, but was telling me how they are going to start trying for a baby next year, as she wants to give birth in Feb 2011 (for perfect age gap). So I said, well you'd better start soon then? She said no, probably May. Obviously she can see the future, or has such fertile ovaries that she is expecting to get diffed on the first month (this happened with her DS, although her DP didn't know they were trying!). I bit my lip whilst thinking what an insensitive caaah she is sometimes. Then I had to endure lecture on how I just have to 'relax and it will happen, all this charting/symptom spotting etc is no good, in fact it STOPS it happening'. Yeah right. So if I didn't bother tracking temps or ov dates, it would just happen would it? When I spent a year ttc when NOT EVEN OVULATING?!!! FFS. Part of me hopes SHE gets secondary infertility so she then knows how I feel. Knowing my luck though, she will be diffed before me and I will have to divorce TG just so I don't have to see her smug face again.

Deep breath, as you were you slaaags. Rant over. Right I need a drink - egg nog anyone? Oh sod the festive stuff... get me a pint David. Who's going to join me?

Polly Call her up on being a manipulative little cunt who conned a man in to impregnating her. Women like that give ALL the rest of us a bad name - especially those of us who didn't meet our partners until we were in our 30s. What a vile creature.

Yes it fucks me right off too Ski

SIL seems to think it is funny..... I personally think one day that decision will come back and bite her on the ass. Although her DP is delighted at being a daddy, I don't think you can manipulate someone like that without it having a negative impact on your relationship, whether it is now or in the future.

Poo she sounds awful I'll join in with kicking her.

I know we had this discussion a few days ago but I completely agree with ski - I think it is abhorrent that people do this. I just think that if you're that devious it doesn't bode well for the rest of your life together does it? That said our 1st pregnancy wasn't planned and accidents happen of course but one person being so devious is vile.

I also hope she doesn't get pregnant because it would be a shame if you had to divorce TG.

Hmmm..... sometimes not such a shame. Unfortunately the 'coming out with thoughtless hurtful comments' is a family trait which TG occasionally suffers from. And don't even get me started on his mother....

For example, on Saturday night I stuck out my belly and asked him if he thought there was a baybee in there... He raised one eyebrow and said 'Well you are not going to be pregnant this month are you!" (because I haven't started the clomid yet and have crap ovaries). I made a swift exit and snuck upstairs to sob. Eventually had it out with him yesterday though, thoughtless twat

Polly Does her partner (TG's brother?) know what happened? Totally agree with Claire though, you must not divorce TG because he is lush (if not a little thoughtless)!

Claire You dropped the butterdish? At least as you say it was a joint "whoopsie" rather than a deliberate ploy.

Yeah, he does know. (SHE is TG's sis, not t'other way round, that makes her my SIL doesn't it?)

TG said BIL thinks it was wrong, but he'd been broody for years (before he met her). I think although he didn't agree with how she did it, he was pleased with the result. Lucky for her eh?