30s TTC - After all, we're not nice 'down there' at the BESH of times...

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longwee Oh god yeh, I'm always banging on about you lot and apart from one time when he shouted "I really don't care about a bunch of middle-aged women from the internet" - he just nods and says "mmmmm".

Polly I'm not sure you were here when I was at the stables earlier in the year and a woman turned up to take care of her daughter's horse as her daughter was doing her finals... said woman was 8 months and 46 if a day!

camel Yep, Palace makes you mad but at the same time, who else can we wail at with total impunity?

hahahaha twinkletoes Catflap could also be used for DC1...

49?! Bloody hell, I have years - what am I stressing about?!

Ski.."Middle Aged"????WTF... How VERRY dare he?

Loving your rustygusset Twinklers

Welcome twinkletoes. Bad form on no cocktails, I have a craving for a bloody mary.

Welcome Twinkletoes. Don't worry - in here we have virtual (perfect) bodies and trade virtual punches and drink virtual drinks. So it stands to reason that in here we are offensively rich and can therefore buy whatever drinks we like! Line 'em up, I need to get ratarsed.

Yesss, I'm in! Sorry, 'twas very stingy re: the no cocktails, please help yourselves to the freshly mixed row of caipirinhas on the bar.

cheers twinkle - welcome en palais!

Anyone noticed the baby names discussion of the day - do people seriously call their children after cars?

Are you having a go at my brother Skoda, Curlers?

Welcome Twinkletoes! An Atheist Jew, huh? That'll come in handy if me and Ski ever revisit Teh Rellijun Wars.

Well, am struggling with feeling mucho baby-desperation sadness and anxiety but hiding it cos it's TYF's birthday. He is drinking posh cola and playing his new puter game, thanks to me, so is in hog heaven. His fucking parents haven't sent him anything - somewhat inexcusable when he works with his Dad They are virtually millionaires and my folks, who are pensioners and not rich to begin with, spent loads on him (ILs sent me a frigging single coaster for my birthday ). He's upset but I'm spoiling him rotten. At least I know who'll be the favourite grandparents

My latest menkulism is that my belt buckle has been digging in my wimbledon common (low-riding jeans) and I'm scared it's knocked the fertilised egg off course. I think I need a horse tranquiliser. Someone please reassure/punch me.

Camelette, I approve of you seeing Psycho The Rapist (HAHA). I would go for counselling if I had the cash (I once went for some on the NHS - waited over a year and the first thing the woman said, after we'd introduced ourselves was 'have you accepted Our Lord Jesus Christ into your heart as your personal master and saviour?'. Er, NO*). Although your shrink is clearly just jealous that you're getting such great help here and worries that he/she will lose your custom. I mean, he/she couldn't help with such priceless gems as taking pics of your own tits, putting a wooden spoon under your bed and drawing a BFP on your POAS with red biro, could they?

TYF knows the Palace exists but nothing else about us and he's never nosy or resentful. He once said 'you spend all your time chatting to that lot', so I said 'well, do you want me to talk to you for hours about my baby obsession' and he just said 'fair enough' and wandered off. He knows his place.

*This one session means that I can never adopt, as this technically counts as me having 'a history of mental health problems'. Because I was upset when my Granddad died. Magic. FFS.

Happy Birthday to TYF, boo to his parents. And have a slap Scorps for even entertaining the idea that a belt buckle could dislodge a baby. That is proper menkul.

I nearly burst into tears today while reading the new prospectus for my old school. I am claiming it as a SYMPTOM even though it's probably not. My decision to order pizza tonight is sheerbloodylaziness also a symptom. Oh yes.

Hi there twinkle. You're not the only one here to do the testing when droided "just in case". You'll fit right in .

scorps - sure about that??? That's fuckin' nuts. Surely people who try to get asseestarnce when life is tough is those what are more in touch with their mental state and less prone to losing the plot completely. Unless your're TTC of course when all rules go out t'window.

'Rots - nope, apparently all it takes is for you to talk to a GP about feeling depressed or see an NHS counsellor once and it's counted as you having 'a history of mental health issues'. I know of 3 people (and not all who live near me) who've been told that they can't adopt because of this reason: one friend wanted counselling because she found out she could never have children... and then couldn't adopt because she was apparently mentally unstable Another friend, a lesbian, had brief depression in her early 20s when her family rejected her when she came out. She's 38 now, but it still counts against her. You would think that people who recognise that they need a bit of help, get it, then are right as rain would be seen as responsible and trustworthy, wouldn't you? The rules are fucked up.

Muser, thanks for your reassurance. It was a v tight belt and I have an appalling ladygut - it'll still be okay, right?

You can indeed 2WOOFL when the droid is upon you - I've been bleeding like a stuck pig and writhing around in crampular agony and still been pondering if I'm one of those women who has periods when she's updiffed! Why is there no 'shakes head in despair at self' emoticon?

"*This one session means that I can never adopt, as this technically counts as me having 'a history of mental health problems'. Because I was upset when my Granddad died. Magic. FFS."

Oh well, that's us shagged for adoption then. Both have been on the happy pills, I've been though the pct mental health care team, been on stress management course yada yada yada.

Marvelous. Fuckin A.

Happy birfday to TYF!!

Is anyone watching that awful 'i didn't know i was pregnant' programme on cable? That right there is why I test even when I am obviously about to come on. Must stop watching pregnancy shite on TV. Just turned over to 'celebrity rehab with Dr Drew' - what a bunch of tosspots.

God I'm BORED, and alone and my book is depressing me. Are you all out doing something exciting? OH is away for a week now, possibly the crucial week, so looks like no August baby for me. Bought box of tampax and a pregnancy test from the chemist today, got funny look from the woman behind the counter but have run out of both and I am a woman who likes to be prepared for every eventuality.

Am shocked by the therapy = no adoption thing. Will ask my mum who works in that field...

I have eaten enough pizza to make me look pregnant. I am now off to have a bath and admire my pizza baby.

Bit shocked by the adoption thing too. Rules us out, and MrM would rather go that route than IVF if we have a babyfail.

I'm giong to have to investigate this adoption thing further and hope that diff areas have different rules.....

Ladies, the adoption thing is of course anecdotal, but it worried me that I heard the same thing from 3 separate people, living in different parts of the country, ie that because they had seen a Dr about quite minor depression, it meant that they had mental problems as far as the adoption agencies in their area were concerned. Of course, there's prolly lots more to it than that (and when you're upset you often latch onto quite small things and blow them out of proportion). Twinkle, I would very much like to know what your Mum has to say - I genuinely hope that my friends were wrong about this reason they were given.

Mind you, I think if any Drs read about our collective 2WOOFLing habits, we'd all be locked up in a secure unit

MrM is 2WOOFLING more than I am. I've been having twinges on my right side on and off for the last 24 hours or so, so I assume OV, and he keeps asking "are you pregnant yet?", "is it kicking yet?!" Not sure I will last 2 weeks!

I feel bad, like I've really scared people with the adoption thingy. I am v tired and not thinking enough about what I'm writing. But it is what I've heard from these 3 women. I do hope they got the wrong end of the stick and what they were actually told was that it was one of a number of reasons why they wouldn't be considered as adopters.

scorps don't worry, it's just another bridge to cross on the highway of life.

Or something.

Yeah, don't worry Scorps. It's an interesting thing to keep in mind anyway. Whatever the truth is, the adoption process is long and very hard from what I understand.

And it's the weekend, hooray! Let the gin and crazy symptom spotting begin.

I finded this on adoption from here

Why Your Application to adopt might not be straight forward:

I have suffered mental health problems in the past
One of the first steps you should take is to discuss your making an application to adopt with your GP. He or she will probably be prepared to advise you of the information they will give to the adoption agency and any supplemental information they would provide. The agency will have their own medical adviser who will also be asked for their opinion. This advice is likely to concentrate upon the impact of your last illness, your response to any treatment, any indication that the illness might occur again, and the long-term outlook.

That sounds pretty reasonable, thanks for that Iggs

BTW guys, we need to think up a name for a new thread.

Here's a quick idea:
"30s TTC - More Gin than George BESH" or summat along those lines!

scorp I like the name suggestion!

medee veeery impressed by MrM.

twinkle now there's an eventuality not mentioned in the Girl Guide Handbook, eh. So they're NOT always gonna Be Prepared. I should write a letter to them to suggest it.

May I ask an OPK question please? Are you likely to get a +ve OPK on the actual day of ovulation? The reason I ask is that my pack says that when you get a +ve result then shag yer man within 24-48 hours but IF you ov on that day then 48 hours is too late, right? But do you get a +ve test up to the day of OV starting a few days before, so if you do tests as you approach OV then you should get a +ve a few days before, SO then if you don't actually do the first one until the actual OV day you could screw it all up by not screwing in time?

I'm so confuddled.

Am off to work, but quickly: OPKs can be unreliable as you can get a positive result but it could be anywhere in the ovulation phase, ie you could get a positive but actually all the hormones are trailing off after the egg has released, meaning that it would actually be too late to SWI. I watch my bodily symptoms v closely and also get a second semi-line before I get a full one and I use that as my clue to get my freak on, in case the full double line indicates the ending of Ov. Confused yet?