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C1NDY · 23/10/2009 10:26

Hi All,

New thread, a new beginning...

OP posts:
daisydotandgertie · 23/01/2010 07:14

Of course I don't think your sniffy. I know I am quite potty about my girls and that there are many much more sane people out there!

Enjoy your weekends.

daisydotandgertie · 24/01/2010 21:20

Turns out I was right to be pessimistic.

AF arrived today after a pink hint on Friday evening and nothing at all on Saturday.

I just knew something wasn't right. And that Clomid wouldn't be an immediate miracle fix.

I'm feeling quite low about it tbh.

yellowflowers · 25/01/2010 08:35

Oh daisy I'm sorry. Sounds like a chemical pregnancy if you got a line at some point however faint. What a rollercoaster, poor you.

Is it proper heavy af?

Huge amounts of love coming to you.

X x x x

iggypiggy · 25/01/2010 10:11

daisy how horrible for you I was convinced it was positive. but I think yellow may be right - cos you don't get lines without the hormones there... and if it is a CP - it might be your body gearing up for getting pregnant properly.

xx

daisydotandgertie · 25/01/2010 20:19

Thank you ladies. It is such a disappointment, even though I didn't have full confidence in the bfp.

My period is a humdinger though - enough of a problem to make me think it might have been a CP.

Back on the Clomid tonight. I really hope you're right iggy and it's my body gearing up to do something useful. It'd be such a welcome result.

On the positive side, we did manage to cut down and get rid of 2 trees this weekend. The garden is looking a lot better for it. And we're bloody knackered.

iggypiggy · 26/01/2010 09:35

It really sounds like it could be a CP then? Fingers crossed it was a practice run.

daisy just for you I have put a pic of my dog on my profile

yellowflowers · 26/01/2010 12:44

Hee hee - please carry on with the dig stuff. I was just saying why I couldn't join in. But I like following your lives...

So I saw the consultant. A mixed bag really. He was nice about my weight - I had lost some by last visit though not enough for bmi under 35. He wouldn't give me clomid because he said there is no point having it if ovulating which I am. He instead wants me to have iui with hmg injections to stimulate extra ovulation. This means him checking whether my ptc will allow it for my weight and if so then waiting for a couple of months to start as there is a waiting list for scanning and he said too dangerous to do without scanning (same for clomid) in case of octuplets etc.

I said I still wantd to give clomid a try - he was very reluctant.

So what next? Well he has to take his thoughts to the hospital's panel who decide what next - eg give him go ahead for iui, or very possibly clomid. He also has to check I can have it paid for by my ptc.

I should have letter in a couple of weeks telling me what is happening - either yes to iui on nhs and appt in a couple of months to start this (gulp!) or no to having it funded in which case he may be able to give me clomid but he thinks this is waste of time or if they can do nothing further then I can then go ahead and book private appt for iui. He said may as well go straight to iui rather than clomid if going privately because by the time you;ve paid for scans for clomid it costs almost the same as iui.

I was pretty upset because I wanted immediate answers and to know what was happening even though in cold light of day I know I will know in a few weeks. In fact I may even know by time I get my period which then gives us enough time to book appt privately for next cycle.

On plus side he is a lovely doctor and answered all my questions and seemed to think we'd have a good chance succeeding with iui.

Also on plus side my dh came and therefore for first time felt properly involved with process and also go to support me and me support him.

So there you go - still no answers.

yellowflowers · 26/01/2010 12:45

dog stuff, not dig stuff!

daisydotandgertie · 26/01/2010 19:57

Blimey yellow - what a fantastic outcome. IUI would be a very positive step forward. Much better than Clomid I think.

It honestly doesn't sound as though Clomid is the right solution for you - if you are ovulating (apparently I was not) it won't do much except make you feel shitty.

It is hard waiting for the doctors and answers. And there never seems to be a clear, instant answer to either questions or problems. I don't think we'll ever get a clear answer about what's going on. Or about what will fix the problem.

It's very, very hard. And I fight to make it not dominate my life.

iggy - have a peek at my profile ....Your young man is gorgeous. A beautiful, beautiful boy. Just think of how much fun he'd have with a puppy to play with

daisydotandgertie · 26/01/2010 19:59

And dig, dog - in our house there's plenty of evidence of dogs that dig!

Fab typo.

yellowflowers · 26/01/2010 23:10

Do you think so Daisy? I feel quite traumatised because iui seems, rather than step closer to having a baby, a step closer to exhausting all options if you see what I mean?

daisydotandgertie · 27/01/2010 09:55

But that's the fear, isn't it? The fear that nothing will work? And the fear of a starting a new and demanding treatment. And if you're anything like me, the fear of it actually working!

I share it with you - and understand like you wouldn't believe but rationally know that IUI stands a really good chance of working. And when it does work you won't care that you've knocked off another one of your options.

I would far rather be having a more scientific and monitored treatment than be taking Clomid and keeping my fingers crossed. It's a powerful drug and I am not even sure it's working or that it'll help if it does. And to be honest, I'm not sure how the consultant is because she hasn't done any tests at all on my DH.

I truly believe you have a fabulous result from your consultant which isn't the last in the line of hope, but a huge, helpful, scientific boot up the parts to finally get a BFP.

iggypiggy · 27/01/2010 10:07

yellow that sounds positive - especially about your DH and that the doctor was positive about your chances with IUI. Is also good that it's all happening soon. Am really pleased for you

daisy she is lovely mine loved the snow! You are right - he would love a puppy... ah well... maybe in a year or so!

yellowflowers · 27/01/2010 18:35

Thanks both. And yes daisy, you hit nail on head - I am scared it will work too! When I thought I was pregnant a couple of months ago I suddenly got the jitters and then when period started I worried I had been pregnant but then it didn't stick because it could sense I wasn't sure - all ridiculous of course. If you could think away a pregnancy then there wouldn't have to be abortion. But still - felt terrible!

But you have both made me feel better about not getting clomid and about possibly getting iui instead.

daisydotandgertie · 28/01/2010 13:50

I also have that worry somewhere deep down. There's a tiny bit of me that likes my life as it is - just me, my DH, our dogs and chickens. With the freedom to do whatever we like really.

I can do upholstery in the afternoons, and it doesn't matter if I leave work late at lunchtime. This afternoon I am making roman blinds for our kitchen. I couldn't do that if I had a bambino.

And I fear that the tiny chink in my conviction is what's causing my troubles.

But, like you, rationally I know it's wrong. And I know I really, really want a baby. Or two.

I actually think I might be as mad as a bag of frogs .

iggy - how are you feeling? Are you doing OK with your bump?

and Jools where are you?

iggypiggy · 28/01/2010 14:01

daisy I REALLY want chickens... am now very jealous...

Can I just say that the first time I got PG - I panicked and was all 'my life is over' etc. Obviously that ended in miscarriage - so then I felt guilty for having had negative thoughts... However - even now - bits of me freak out about it - although I know I really want it... I think that is totally normal..

bump is not really in existence yet... I just look a bit fat

daisydotandgertie · 29/01/2010 08:11

Normal is good.

Rationally, I know that everyone has doubts - and that those that have no doubts at all are in the minority and maybe a little bit odd.

And chickens are hilarious. They are very stupid but very, very cute. We have too many and I'm on the look out for more. We've not had to buy an egg for nearly 3 years and we've managed to sell the surplus too. We started out with just 3 of them - now there are 14 and a cockerel.

Go on - get some.

And I'm sure you don't look a bit fat. You're pregnant!

yellowflowers · 29/01/2010 15:56

Has anyone seen jools - our cycles are roughly in sync so I guess she is gearing up to second half of 2ww too.

iggypiggy · 29/01/2010 16:02

yellow Jools is on another thread I am on - she seems fine - think she is something like 5 dpo? I'll tell her you are asking!

daisy I want chickens, but I need a bigger garden - we about to move house so maybe soon!

Trust me - I don't look pregnant even vaguely... just fatter than normal!

yellowflowers · 30/01/2010 21:05

My temp was 36.92 today. Usual high each month is 36.68. I did it 3 times and in same ballpark each time so thermometer not broken. But that's what two duvets and heating coming on at 6am (temp taken at usual time of 8.30am) does right? (am not ill as far as I know). Am 9dpo.
X

yellowflowers · 31/01/2010 10:18

and now it's plunged today 11dpo (yesterday was 10dpo, not 9dpo). How odd. Maybe I had some kind of bug yesterday. Guess that means af gearing to come.

daisydotandgertie · 31/01/2010 16:52

See what it is tomorrow. A judgement on a single days temp is unlikely to be right.

There's always the possibility of an implantation dip?

We accidentally bought 5 more chickens yesterday. Brings us to a very scary total plus Dave the cockerel. We've almost run out of names now. Ruby, Ethel, May, Daisy, Violet, Dot, Gertie, Belle, Rosie, Maude, Betty, Doris and Aggie have already gone. We need another 5!

Suggestions?

yellowflowers · 31/01/2010 17:16

You should ask on the (sometimes brutal) babyname section. I like hanging out there. Don't choose names you want for your babies though - you'll have some explaining to do otherwise!

I am in foul mood and think I mist be gearing up for af. Don't think it's likely to be implantation dip as a bit late for that.

X

Joolsiam · 01/02/2010 11:09

Hi all

Sorry for going awol - work life has been mega busy, and over the weekend, MN decided to log me out of MN on my ipod, work laptop, home laptop and work blackberry - none of the mobile devices would let me log in and I was out and about for a lot of the weekend

Loving the talk of chickens - no room for them here but maybe one day ... Will just stick with my two gorgeous Siamese cats for now

Daisy - Mavis, Maisie, Lily, Eliza, Gwen ?

I'm 8DPO today - not sure what to think really as have been quite tearful, have sore boobs and had some cramping late last week aswell as really bad insomnia. Nothing really tangible though - maybe that in itself is a sign as last month I was convinced I was pg and had every symptom going !! No thrush though - that is usuall my key thing

Must try and do some work - very snoozy today after going out to see Billy Connolly last night - in fact I was terrified that when crawling along the M25 this morning, I was actually going to fall asleep - my eyes did NOT want to stay open.

yellowflowers · 01/02/2010 11:23

Hey jools - I was wondering how you were. I am pretty certain this isn't my month. Hope it's yours though. xx