30s TTC - The BESH little gin palace in mumsnet

[idealcamel]

The bar is open and the ticking clock has been muffled for the duration...Come on in!

If you want to get updiffed, first line treatment is Clomid to make you ovulate.

If you don't want to get updiffed, treatment seems to centre around ignoring you until you get type 2 diabetes. Which is nice.

lyra How is PCOS associated with T2D?

(Sorry to be so ignorant )

Is it possible to conceive without any intervention at all if you have PCOS?

Gods now I'm worrying - I have a lovely man beard, spots big thighs, overweight, lots of pubes though, not ovulating (but then that doesn't count as only just had coil removed) so I must have it too

Or maybe not. It's the beard things and spots. Like, we're too old for spots and too young for a beard so it MUST be something wrong with us! Is what I think...

Meaning spots COMMA big thighs, not spots on my big thighs - although that too

So if they managed to invent the pill 40 odd years ago which stops you ovulating, how hard can it be to invent something that makes you plop out an egg every couple of days to increase the chances of updiffing? Or is that what Clomid is? Can't be that hard, surely....?

carrots am in Malawi, which is handily prime location for cute orphan stealing adoption. If you want to put your name down for one let me know and I'll add you to the list...

camel poor you - only advice from me is that the madness comes and goes - and sometimes talking about it all on here can make it worse.

crap joke: What is the first sign of Madness?

Answer: Suuggs walking down your garden path

that is not a euphemism.

can't fucking spell Suggs!

How are you all BESHes?

longwee - not Lilongwe by any chance? When someone said you were in Africa I thought with your name you had to be there :-)

Stayed there a few times on trips to and from Mozambique (Niassa). Just come back from a road trip across Kenya in a Landie. LOVIN Africa. Whatcha do there, if you don't mind me asking (also understanding that this is a private non-RL place where you may not want to share )

Carrots, I think the theory is that PCOS is caused by insulin resistance, which over time can lead to diabetes. Insulin is such an important hormone that if your body's response to it is fucked up, it messes all your other hormones up too. Or something. To answer your other question, yes, some people with PCOS get pregnant without intervention - I've had my day 21 bloods done 3 times and I did ovulate on 2 out of 3 of those occasions, so could theoretically have made a baaaaybeee.

Lyra OIC. I am hypoglycemic. Wonder if that makes me more or less prone to it.

shakes herself

Forget it, I'm talking myself into something I'm sure isn't the case, stupid cow I am.

carrots yes, Lilongwe indeed. Work in health project management here, when I'm not idling at the palace. What took you to Mozambique?

Heck, I've just written evaluation in a report but it came out as ovulation. Must check through again before I submit...

longwee oooh oooh I was right!!!

Oh fantastic. I would love to be able to spend more time doing that. I do what I can, but you know...

DH installed a big solar system in an eco lodge in Niassa Province and I spent some time there working on a community development project that the lodge supports. We have family in Moz and Kenya. How is Moz handling the drought? Kenya is in a terrible, awful state, it's dreadfully worrying. How are the rains doing? Any decent wetness?

(sorry all)

Carrots if you are hypoglycaemic you should prob get yourself checked out.

I didn't have a blood test, I don't think. I had a dildocam and have PCOS and dermoid cysts (lovely). The specialist told me that PCOS only affects fertility in about 30% of women with the condition, which is good news I think.

If it helps, I am completely sure my mum has PCOS although she has never been treated for it. She took Clomid because she was having trouble conceiving for her first pregnancy but after that her fertility completely sorted itself out.

Camel poor you, I hope you are feeling a bit better now. I do think cocktails make everything seem better...

Mmmm, spots and wrinkles - BESHes have ALL the fun!

Carrots, fret ye not (who am I - Frankie Howerd?). I have hypoglycaemia (we can have a little faint-when-we-stand-up club all of our own ), spots - mostly on sides of chin too - thunderthighs and need to lose a bit of weight and I don't have PCOS. It's about the only potential problem I don't drive myself barmy worrying about. I would say YES to you going to the gym; it's good 'me time', keeps you fit and toned, you lose weight and feel strong and healthy and I use my cardio time to my mind out of its more epic craziness, esp. when 2WOOFLing. Not actually talking, I mean - I'm not at the stage of loudly arguing with myself about my luteal phase in public. Yet.

By the by, I'm sure I've read of quite a few slebs having baybees despite having PCOS. I think Skeletor, sorry, I mean Posh Spice was one of 'em. And that there Jules Oliver (and if any man has mutant sperm, it's got to be him).

I always wondered where Smellsofwee got her name from. I thought it might be a POAS reference or summat

Pigsy, that Madness joke made me laugh out loud

Ski, I wasn't suggesting your beard was actually your pubes; it's too silky for that

Thanks for sympathy!I do feel better now - ta everyone. Iggy You're right. Venting can make things seem way worse.

Mmm. Cocktails. I'm off to see Zainab Salbi tonight, which will a) be unbelievably interesting and b) take my mind off my problems by reminding me that really, worse things than not having a baybeeeeeee actually happen in this world. And then I might drink a lovely cocktail or two.

Aaaargh, should see Dr re: hypoglycaemia 'n' TTC? Epic babyfail ahoy! My Drs are useless (as well-documented). Don't put more panic in my head!

Scorp I often worry that I am arguing with myself about my luteal phase on the treadmill. Or actually singing along, rather than just mouthing the words.

O.. kay...?

Nah, not really - I find it's the perfect time to have a stern internal 'pull yourself together, woman' chat and address all my daft panics about perimeNOpause, generic babyfail, broken cocks, you name it. It's a bit like having Cunty as a personal trainer, but cheaper and with 100% less gin-fuelled bitchslapping (which I probably could do with)

at you girls, who am I kidding thinking I may go off this list? Best entertainment I've had all year

bessie, scorpette thanks for the conflicting advice

Seriously, I am not going to start down that route. I'm only 2 weeks post coil removal and only just 36 so am going to chill and enjoy sex for a while.

Off home soon so don't chat without me LOL as I'm not in the office tomorrow or Friday. Jeeez I'm gonna be busy catching up!

Carrots xxx

Off now too, but have Ab Fab-style vision of Scorp on treadmill like Edina and Cunty as Patsy sprawled next to her with a bottle of vodka and a fag hanging out of her mouth.

what shall I do with this lovely evening all to myself and the whole of London town to explore BESHes?

camel reckon that will be v. interesting talk!

scorps I like doing the exercise thing too - is pleasing and cheers me up when am being wailing BESH

Iggy - sit hunched over a puter/mobile, writing to us lot?

Yep, if nothing else, if you can exercise you can tell yourself 'at least my body works fine in some ways!'.

Camel - am I wearing high-heeled trainers in your vision?

lyra I'm jealous of your Cysters name, but I'll have to admire you lot from afar, because I fear I'd be a Cyster-imposter. I think my docs wrote it down as "possible" just to get me more tests/drugs/whatevs but I have yet to see any multiple cysts via dildocam, no odd cycle length, no leprechaun beard evidence, etc. So I'll just have to be happy with my "Ain't no tube like a blocked tube club" all by me lonesum.

ski I def see you as more one for ski lifts than face lifts.

The dildocam tomorrow is to verify non-OV and birth control pills have worked, then I can get on with building a nice landing pad for my frozen maybe-baybees. The big thaw will happen in a few weeks, then I'll be 2WOOFLing. Tomorrow is last day for bc pills, thankfully.

camel sorry to hear you were caught up in the mental gymnastics - seems you are getting it sorted out, and a night out def sounds in order. Have a wet one for me, too.

Today is the Tall Fella's birthday, I bought him a brand new bike, specially made for the freakishly tall. I've been vibrating about it for days, wanting to tell him all about it... but I resisted until this am! Last night I had to teach a class, so I got home late and arranged to have a friend with a truck pick up the bike and keep it at her house, then once I was done we went to my house (TTF was supposed to be asleep AN HOUR before we got there - he's like clockwork, usually) but of course as she rounded the corner she called my cell to tell me he was still awake. She said "distract him" then I'll put the bike in the carport... HA! Wasn't hard, I lured him into the bedroom and the bike was delivered in perfect secrecy! I had a hard time sleeping because I was so excited! This morning at 3:30am he woke me up, then I suprised him with it! Aweeesom. He nearly got teary eyed! (I think it was the kevlar coated tires that did it.)

Ok - it's time for my injection of babyhope (aka Lupron) Twists and pulls to you all!

cameltoe believe me that is the closest I will come to a treadmill.

Teehee, Cuntshine was 'vibrating'. Dildocam not enough for ya, luv?

Seriously, I'm so glad your surprise worked so well and made your DH so happy. And good luck with tomorrow's hot dildocam action. When the time comes, all that lovely Hawaiian sun should defrost some of your ice ice babies straight into your tumtum double quick

You know us BESHies - there's never enough action!!!

Aw, thanks scorpy.

Now, I've got that bloody song in my head - ice ice baby... shit!