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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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idealcamel · 12/10/2009 14:32

The bar is open and the ticking clock has been muffled for the duration...Come on in!

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Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 13:50

Hello everyone, looks like I missed a drama or two over the last few days. And we have some new barren hags, more than have got updiffed...

It has taken me all morning to read through your last few posts. How are you, Ski? feeling better?

ChoChoSan · 19/10/2009 13:56

iggy Too early? Are you joking, it's practically last orders...Bombay Sapphire?

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 14:06

Cho you weren't being mean, it was a valid comment. That's the point of here, right? You can say what you really want to say, especially shouting/crying/stomping your feet and wailing at the window about your lost babies.

Seems there's a culture here of taking a miscarriage on the chin, yet losing a term baby, say a stillborn as opposed to a cot death is seen as much worse. Neither baby has been out long enough to develop an actual (as opposed to mental) relationship with its parents, yet as you say, you lose the hopes and dreams - as well as the physical loss.

extreme you haven't asked (well you sort of did about the temps) but here's how I work.

Firstly - am I ovulating. I check with FF then temps. I've never used sticks. Temps - you need to get the info of fertility friend or similar but you basically take the temp with a basal thermometer each morning just as you wake up (before getting up, or even yawning :-) and record it on a special chart (mine is printed by the bed). You should see a jump in temp just as you ov. You could get FF but not ov, and vice versa, and of course you need both.

In theory, if you OV and you're getting FF then you at least are prob ok. You should only need preseed if you ov but don't get FF.

So, that's what I'm doing and if it doesn't work pretty darned quick (assuming I am ok on both above fronts) I will be requesting that DH pops over to the clinic and has his sample checked. I'm proven, he isn't.

If I'm not working (per above) then I have good evidence to take to docs to start looking into why.

CurlyCasper · 19/10/2009 14:06

aaahhh you all post too much too quickly! carrots don't worry, I have already self-diagnosed PCOS, but I know the know-nothing docs will make me try for at least 6 months before investigating. However, I might approach them with the excuse reasoning that the longer I amd trying the longer I'm off arthritis meds, so the more damage I am doing to my already fucked up body - damage which could cost the NHS dear seeing as I've already had 15 years of multiple meds, surgery on both feet and various orthopaedic devices... Do you think they'll give a toss?

CurlyCasper · 19/10/2009 14:07

Boss walked in - will catch up with rest later. have a round on me

Ponymum · 19/10/2009 14:11

Have to admit I am still dying over the George W Bush admission from new hag georgie. I mean, there's 'Crush of Shame', and then there's 'Crush of Admit me to the Nearest Loony Facility'. Please tell us you are over this.

carrots Did you fill us in about those windows?

ChoChoSan · 19/10/2009 14:18

Hi Pony, yes, that was some crush of shame - and I was derided due to Will Mellor crush...harrumph!!!

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 14:19

Yeah, Georgie that was not a good start. In light of your answers I think we need some further probing.

  1. Is your child actually called Geronimo?

  2. Do you call people a) hun b) babe or c) darlin'

  3. Do you feed your son Quavers in public?

  4. Have you ever said the phrase 'wow factor'?

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 14:21

ps. handy hint - all answers to my questions must be no or we will kick you in.

skihorse · 19/10/2009 14:28

ello Bessie, I'm fine although I am with droid rather than child.

Who's WOOFLING for us?

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 14:32

Pony - yes but you need to go to FB to see (too much RL info otherwise).

Casper you just answered my FB question. Cripes, nasty.

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 14:33

Oh, I am 2WOOFLing, despite telling myself I definitely was not going to. I even POAexpensiveS today, which reminded me that I am barren rubbish.

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 14:34

bessie I feed MY son quavers in public but he is not called Geronimo - and I can't stand being called "hun". Ewww.

I know you weren't asking me but so what with the quavers?

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 14:35

bessie how far into woof?

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 14:49

Quavers are foul and contain msg, which is banned in some countries because it is so bad for you.

I don't know when I am supposed to be ov because of the icklebabyangel so I am lotsofWOOFL

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 15:03

Bessie so many things are foul... I figure a pack about once every 3 months is not as bad as feeding him the dreadful evil chicken they serve at school (which he isn't allowed).

[sigh emoticon] why is life so complicated?

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 15:10

yes, I can see you have to keep things in perspective. My dd is not allowed Quavers or chicken. But she is still young.

I got quite annoyed last week when some random chavvy mum tried to feed my dd Quavers in a waiting room.

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 15:39

bessie how old is she? Hmm, not good to try to feed other people's kids, esp young ones. I have a big only-happy-chicken-and-pig thing going on so he eats happy chicken, which of course they don't serve at school.

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 15:42

I try to teach dd that animals are happier alive . I don't think she has ever eaten meat.

dd is 20 months, the random chav's ds was 16 months. He also had a cup with orange squash in it, I was quietly

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 15:45

btw, I'm a bit disappointed that this hasn't really developed

waspylady · 19/10/2009 16:14

I am 2WOOFLing......will POAS Thurs or Fri....(if droid does not get me before)

Have been feeling a bit sick today or could just be imagining things.......

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 16:16

Bessie that's brilliant! Must be a troll.

With you on the not eating animals bit. I didn't for a long time - do now but only happy ones. But I was at this.

I know that with my eco lifestyle (those of you know about my company - I do it for passion, not profit!) I should be dead against fox hunting, but while I've never been fox hunting on horseback, just beagling as a young child, I actually strongly support it.

Will probably get thrown off the group for saying that, but, I have what I believe are excellent reasons for believing it's the very best way of dealing with over-pop of foxes and see no reason why, IF they need to be controlled, why people can't have a bloody good gallop behind them.

I know this is about as off-topic as I can get but I just read about the Lush thing in H&H and was that they should be putting up blatent crap like the hunt sabs "bravely use non-violent means to protect hunted animals" which is utter shite. Sure, most of them are non-violent, but there is a VVV seriously dangerous hard-core of extremely violent extremists. Or saying that "mounted hunts continue to terrorise wildlife" Jeeez. And I absolutely love Lush which is why I am ultra-angry as I boycott so many bloody companies that I really don't want to add that to my list .

givecarrotsachance · 19/10/2009 16:17

Ahem, sorry about that. As you were.

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 17:11

I just clicked on your link. I don't know how you can strongly support fox hunting, it is disgusting. It's not a 'good old gallop' after some foxes; all the fox holes are stopped up and the fox is chased with no escape route until it either dies from stress or is torn apart by dogs. What sort of disgusting, evil person would do that?

I am joining huntsabs now.

Bessie123 · 19/10/2009 17:16

oh, carrots to clarify, I am not calling you a disgusting or evil person, unless you are about to take up fox hunting, in which case I shall have no choice...

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