Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul, vol 2

[thefatladyscreams]

Hardly the most original title but I didn't want to loose anyone (well that's my excuse for the lack of originality!)

AAARGH - fairy lights, not fairly ones...

Hi all hope everyone s well.Just returned from 4 days in Amsterdam very good and back at work today...In answer to someones question, sorry can t remeember whos!!! This is our first we are ttc and i ll be 39 in Dec and no i don t think its nosey to ask , whoever asked!!!!!

Only managed to Bd on days 10,12 and 15 soo far due to travelling etc.... But will carry on hopefully at least every 2 days for the next week or so...

Evening

Yey for applesaretheonlyfruit .

Okay well in addition the the daily headaches, this morning I felt sick, until about 1pm. Oh and peeing more than usual, but then I have started drinking 1.5 litres of water (apparently it helps you ovulate). I know these are pregnancy symptoms, but I just can't believe for a second that I'm pregnant - though you all know how much I'd love to be. Still very jealous of sister-in-law and friend who are both pregnant.

DH and I are just laughing over a few jokes he's read in the childrens section (he asked me to clarify that part) of the local paper:

What do sea monsters eat. Fish and Ships.

What do you call a fish with no eyes. A fsh.

Added louisesh to the list but didn't know UCL or which cycle post mc or CD although took a stab and bunged in CD17 - you might want to amend details when you have a min

mrsr all soudns very pregnant to me - we would all love you to be as well although if you get pg you might leave and that would be a disaster - if you get pregnant you will just have to stay here - thats my final word on the matter xx

littleonemum you don't have to go anywhere either. If I actually manage to get knocked up I will be staying put let me tell you - no buses for me, might visit the grads thread but am more interested in having you guys hold my hand should we ever get there.

chamo tfls step away from the early tests

meita any updates

night all

Thursday

Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 1 CD30
Chamois TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD24
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD24
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 5 CD20
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 2 CD17
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL? cycle ? CD17
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD16
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 5 CD13
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD4
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD2

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD51
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD51

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt (mc)
boodleboot (ectopic)
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September

Good evening!

apples hey so what am I to make of that? Finally I reach you at the top of the list, fully intending to keep you company for as long as it takes, and what do you do? You leave! Just like that! Such.. such.. willfulness!
No but seriously, am thrilled that finally something is happening for you. Am thinking I should call doc to get an appointment about not ovulating and bingo, I'd ovulate, right? 'Cause that's how it works, isn't it? Simple logic, pure science.

Am tired and had a rubbish end of the day - was going to leave the office at 7.10, but at 7.05 computer went into automatic shut-down mode (a new energy saving initiative) and took about two hours of hard, boring work with it, which I will now have to re-do tomorrow. Then, cycling to the train station, twice I was very nearly run over, really dangerous and tricky situations, more luck than anything else that nothing happened. On top of everything, I have now been doing OPKs since 16 days and still only negatives.

On the positive side though (never go to bed with your mind on all the downsides, me says) - temps look as if I might have ovulated even though no positive test, if rise continues tomorrow, that is. DP had doctoral exam yesterday and passed with flying colours - I am VERY proud of him! And our cat climbed onto my lap yesterday - she never does that, she's a rescue cat and extremely people-shy, won't be picked up and at most will sit next to you to be cuddled.

On that note, and with eyes falling closed, a big wave at everyone, hope to catch up on things soon - and thanks for "listening" to my ranting!

Friday's list:

Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 1 CD31
Chamois TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD25
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD25
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 5 CD21
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 2 CD18
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL? cycle ? CD18
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD17
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 5 CD14
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD5
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD3

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD52
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD52

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt (mc)
boodleboot (ectopic)
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September

meita - what a night! There was obviously something going round yesterday. I was feeling out of sorts when I went for my acupuncture session. Came out feeling completely zonked and drove home vaguely aware that someone was wrong with the car. Made mental note to check tyres when got home but completely forgot and took it out again to pick up DH from the station. Again became aware that something was really wrong but in my fog (god I'm hoping I'm pregnant as some sort of excuse!) carried on driving to the station. Hence greeted DH off train with completely knackered tyre (and probably damaged the wheel as I'd driven on it for so long). Hence 1 hour in a dark car park trying to change the tyre before coming home to the burnt chicken I'd left in the oven.... Bless DH, he saw the funny side.

Hope you're having a calmer day today. The cycling near misses sound horrible - glad you're OK. Well done to DP. What news on the temps today?

MrsR - I have a worrying mental picture of you and MrR reading the jokes page!

louisesh - it was my question, thanks. Glad you had a good time in Amsterdam.

Talking of holidays, hope you're having a lovely day off cheepz. Looks like you've got the weather for it.

Lovely to hear from you LittleOneMum - how are you feeling?

Hello,

tfls well temp stayed same as yesterday - no further rise, no dip. Now both FF and MyNFP tell me I ovulated on CD27. I remain sceptical since at 36.75 my temp is still about 0.2 below my usual luteal-phase temp of 36.95.

Am now a bit unsure about BD strategy. I would really rather not have another "cycle of no chances" due to no BD on the right days. On the other hand I don't think I can keep up the "every other night" schedule we've been on since CD10 or so. It also seems a bit pointless since I might have already ovulated. Maybe aim for every third night, and continue using the cheepie OPKs, at least until my temps are more convincing?
At least the good news is: If FF and MyNFP are right, and I ovulated on CD27, then our chances this cycle are as good as it gets - BD on ov-2, ov, and ov+1(am). AF would then be due on CD42 or 43.
DP is returning later today - happy!

Sounds like you just might be pg, tfls with all that happened last night!

boodle and leeWT sending you best wishes and hugs.

did I already say congrats to waiting? If not, hey, what good news! How are you feeling now - a bit calmer? Our graduates list is starting to look pretty impressive!

meita - I really hope that's right. Fingers crossed.

fatlady - that's so funny! Glad all OK now.

I'm fine, thank you. Well, fine in the sense rthat I am exhausted permanently (was asleep by 9pm last night) and feel sick all the time (no actually chucking yet though) but in my book that's all good news really...

I do a horrid scary job where being awake/alert/firing on all cylinders is pretty important and am just hoping they don't notice me napping at my desk each day...

I THOUGHT YOU GUYS DISAPPEARED!!!

So glad I found you again!

Glad to hear you are all getting on ok..

Boodle I totally sympathise.. although I never saw a heartbeat with either of my beans, I found it hard to get my head around that people didn't acknowledge their existence. I felt so sad for them and for me not getting to know them. It's a very complex situation and its great that you and dh are going to discuss in detail the right thing to do.

ALso its nice that those of us not strictly TTC at the minute can come on here. Am actually enjoying non-ttc-bd'ing!!

positive vibes to all of you!

xxx

Hi Girls - I'm sorry to crash in on you all, I thought you'd be able to answer a question I have

I was just wondering how long you all waited after a mc before TTC again?

I have had a mc this week, found out yesterday.

Very but both dh and I are wanting to start TTC again ASAP. We're both fine about the mc as we feel it's something beyond any physical persons control so emotionally we're prepared for this rollercoaster. I'm almost stopped bleeding since it started on Monday.

Please advise as I'm feeling a little by the whole thing.

Thanks In Advance
xx

Evening

Nothing to say really...

Went to a neighbours 65th birthday/retirement party before with DH and DS. 3 people wanted to hold DS and both DH and I didn't feel able to say no even though that's what we wanted, so we let people hold him.

I hate it though, I don't want people holding him, it kills me inside. Why do people want to hold babies (especially toddlers that just want to crawl and walk)? DH and I have never understood the phenomenom, neither of us have wanted to hold other peoples children.

It really bothers me.

kaylo welcome and sorry you found your way here - but thank god for you you did

none of us waited at all is the simple answer (unless there were medical reasons why we had to) leeWT can probably tell you about that but sounds like you are in the 'straightforward' mc category which would mean go for it right away! - sorry if straightforward not sounding sympathetic just tryiong to say not medically complicated

mrsr my ds wont let anyone hold him he makes himself all ridgind and slides off people who try - hilarious, once they are past 3-6 months i can't see why people want to hold them either

dh and i had monster row tonight - about tenant of all things - not interested in bd right now - not really interested in even spawing any more offspring with him wight now - has put me off ttc momentarily.

going to bed - to read

Hi all had a good weekend out fri and sat night lots of eating and drinking was fantastic.....Not good fo my slimming world diet though!!!!!! Have to give it up for the next few weeks off on hols next week!!!

My cycle length is 28 days and i m on cd19 from ny ERPC soo still counting that as my cd1.Trying not to think about ttc or the recent MC just enjoying awaiting my hols and lots of wine!!!!

Not really BD enough recently dut to "life" getting in the way but hey ho!!!! Feel a bit chilled about it all think for the last 19 months we ve been ttc and all we ve got to show for it is 2 MCs soo i think thats why i ve lost some interest in it all at the moment.Bd days 10,12,15 and 17.Don t hold out much hope for this month....

Hi kaylo i too had my 2nd MC/ERPC 19 days ago.I had a scan on the 8th sept, erpc on 9th sept bleeding had stopped 5 days later i rung EPU and they said we could ttc 5 days later.I think first time we BD was a week after ERPC.We too are ttc asap .....

Oops sorry for the spelling mistakes!!!!! Must be wine overload!!!!!

Hi ladies,

kaylo I think most of us here went back to TTC immediately. The only problem with this, as far as I can see, is that the cycle immediately after an MC can be a bit confusing. BBT, CM, and OPKs can all give you false or misleading results. For some of us, this "WTF-cycle" as we call it, was much longer than usual cycles; for others, it was much shorter. (and some of us had regular cycles and fell pg immediately again) All these things make timing your BD a bit tricky. But if you're not so much into timing anyway, then that shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand, there is the issue of timing HPTs. I would advise you to do a quality pregnancy test sometime approx. mid-cycle, just to make sure there aren't any pg-hormones lingering in your body anymore. Else, if you do get a BFP sometime soon, you won't know for sure if you are really pg or if it is just showing left-over hormones. That can be very distressing!

TFLS, Chamois I am starting to get all excited for you!

cheepz I do hope you have been able to make peace with your DH! It's depressing, isn't it, having such rows when you are TTC. Makes you wonder. But on the other hand, if rows and arguments are part and parcel of your relationship, it would be strange to assume they'll just go away as soon as you start TTC! On the contrary, as stress and tension mounts with long periods of unsuccesful TTC and MCs, they would be more likely than ever.

louise I'm glad to hear you are feeling relaxed about it all Would you please send some of your relax-vibes over here?

My temp has fallen again, so I am less convinced than ever that I actually ovulated. I might yet ovulate, or this cycle could be anovulatory. We will see. Yesterday I had a very teary moment about it all, thinking it was all so unfair - before the MC my cycles were pretty regular, and I was pretty relaxed about it all; now I am increasingly anxious and my cycles are increasingly all over the place. Have calmed down since, have realised that well, I will just have to school myself in patience - one anovulatory cycle or two is not the end of the world, nor does it mean that I will never have a baby. There.

Sunday's list:

Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 1 CD33
Chamois TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD27
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD27
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 5 CD23
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 2 CD20
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL? cycle WTF CD19
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD19
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 5 CD16
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD7
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD5

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD54
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD54

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt (mc)
boodleboot (ectopic)
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September

hi

Cheepz, Lousie and Meita - Thank You! I know what you mean about it sounding blunt but I completely agree with you - I guess it was fairly straightforward. If I started to think too much about it and got attached in any way I'd find it harder to cope with. Baby was very much wanted but was not meant to be, maybe next time!
I'm not bleeding anymore, theres nothing left to come out apparently so dh and I will start TTC again this week sometime. Am staying away from OPK's as I know they're unreliable after mc.

I've already had a negative pregnancy test so don't think theres any hormone left in me to interfere with any future BFP's.

Thanks Again xx

Hi welcome kaylo. Sorry to hear about your m/c. I'd echo everyone else that it is a very individual thing about when to TTC again but I wanted to start as soon as I could.

Ladies, I apologies in advance for the pity party but I've had a really lousy weekend for various reasons. Topped by a big temp dip today and started spotting so pretty certain AF is arriving tomorrow. Stupid thing is that I secretly thought I might be pregnant - lots of symptons in the last few days. What an idiot. Hit me hard today as I'd got my hopes up (not helped by only an hour's sleep last night so not at my most resilient). I did warn you it was a pity party. Sorry for the rant.

Sorry meita - just read your post and understand your feelings of puzzlement (is that a word?) and frustration at wanting to get back your regular cycle and at least understand what is going on. You sound like you have a good philosophy about it though - my DH has a great outlook. We'll be happy together if we have a child and we'll be happy together if we don't. It's just a different type of happy.

Oh here you all are!
Meita I'm sorry everything seem a bit all over the place at the moment. Stay positive sweetie.
TFLS good to hear from you, I'm enjoying having you as my CD buddy! Any symptoms of anything apart from brain fog?!
Kaylo sorry you're here but glad you found us iyswim

Well CD28 for me tomorrow but not holding out much hope as it's been a very stressful month and TTC has had to take a bit of a back seat. Perhaps that's a good thing, I'm not sure. Had slight spotting on days 17 and 18 which was just like the implantation bleed I had with my last pg but surely far too early this time as was days 27 an 28 last time? so not getting excited just yet.
love, Chamois

(who is trying very hard to ignore the test calling to her from the bathroom cupboard
pee on me...pee on me....)

ah TFLS x-posts, sorry. Don't feel bad about the pity party, go for it. I'm sure I will be joining you in the next few days. Take care and get some sleep and I hope your week is better than your weekend x

Hi ladies,

Have had a worrying couple of days - had some spotting yesterday while I was at our wedding venue having my final planning meeting. DP was still away on his stag do, so I was just terrified. It wasn't much and didn't last long, but was enough to make me phone the EPU who told me that if it carried on, I should come straight in this morning.

So, got up this morning and there was quite a lot more, so rushed straight to EPU. They gave me a scan and blow me if there wasn't a lovely embryo with a very strong heartbeat happily getting on with things. There was no evidence of any bleeding in the womb, so they have no idea what caused it or anything but are as confident as they can be that everything is hunky dory. Relief is not the word.

Anyway, hope you're all well. Still not brave enough to venture far away from this thread yet, so am sure I'll hang around a wee while longer if that's okay!

Thanks chamois - hope you have better luck in the next few days. AF has arrived so I've put a bottle of wine in the fridge for tonight (the diet can go AWOL tonight).

Viv - that's fantastic news . Now you can relax and get back to wedding planning!

PS chamois - you did make me laugh with your impersonation of a pregnancy test stick!

Hello,

tfls so sorry that AF got you. Those temp dips at the end of our cycles, they are just never wrong, are they. Well at least it means we get some warning that AF is about to arrive. Well, by all means, do indulge yourself tonight. Having AF get you is not the end of the world, but it most definitely is a downer, and you deserve pampering a bit!

I like your DH's philosphy. Though for me, I am not quite ready yet to say "we can be happy without kids" though I am sure we could. At the moment I am thinking more in terms of adoption as the primary alternative, rather than life without kids. I like the idea of adoption very much - there are kids who need homes so very much! It's just that the whole process of adopting (I've looked into it a little) appears very daunting.
Has anyone else ever considered adoption?

chamois hmmm could have been ovulation bleed instead. Which would mean you should probably wait another day or two before testing. [evilgrin] No but seriously, I have all fingers crossed for you. It would be about time for another BFP!

viv sure sounds like an emotional rollercoaster of superlatives! I am sooo glad it ended on a high! Please, do stay here as long as you like. Whenever I get a BFP I will be sticking here for a loooong time.

Monday's list:

Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 1 CD34
Chamois TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD28
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 5 CD24
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 2 CD21
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL? cycle WTF CD20
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD20
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 5 CD17
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 2 CD8
Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD6
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD1

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD55
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD55

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt (mc)
boodleboot (ectopic)
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September