Mid 30's TTC - you're my BESH mate you are..... <hic hic>

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OOOh - Hope this'll do! Emergency!

found you all!

Fingers crossed the line gets stronger, gin.

for those of you in the 2WW (is that what you mean by 2WOOFLING?), and not drinking, what do you tell your mates? I'm seeing mine on Friday, and not drinking wine will be very unusual for me. I was thinking of ordered white wine spritzer, then just getting extra soda each round therafter.

medee 2 Weeks Of Obsessive Fucking Lunacy.

So yeah 2WOOFL.

Personally I drink as normal during this time. But then I am a lush

thanks Gin.

Well, it's just in case I did conceive, but I did have a little wine tonight.

Of course medee that's a sensible approach. It's just not one I'm very good at sticking too...at the risk of rousing any judgypants I am drinking tonight as I don't know if I'm diffed (am not drinking lots tho)

the spritzer idea sounds good. When I got diffed with mani everyone knew in seconds as I was in the pub, and Not Drinking (told you I'm a lush )

in fact on my 2WOOFL with him I had a tequila bender as I was sure I would never get pregnant

too TO! I can fucking spell!

Have to admit that my judgy-pants are non-existent.9 As a certified lush, and dodgy hippy, I worry that if I get all judgetastic about other mothers then I'll have some kind of epic pregnancy fail. I am also enough of a lunatic during the 2woofl without denying myself the comfort of gin...

Right. Can't sleep. Have decided to be as mellow as possible during 2WOOFL. My Pink StuffTM could easily be just one of those harmless menstrual anomalies, and the womb activity could be the same, or even trapped wind v low down in my gut, which I'm mistaking for a different area. No tender boobs yet, but no mastalgia either, which is usual sign of impending R2D2. But mastalgia can also be sign of updiff. Confusing.
So am going to stop convincing myself I'm pg and try not to worry and overthink everything (ie have a complete character change).

Looking forward to hearing good POAS news from gin tomorrow, fingers crossed

Gin I am sitting patiently. How was this mornings urination?

On other points:

1. I am Irish, surely that makes me special too?
2. I want an i-Phone and I don't care if it makes me look like a twat. My only concern is the bill.
3. I can't watch underage and pregnant anymore. It brings on a rage similar to that of Carrie and I don't want to set the house on fire.
4. I am over the "not drinking" when trying bit. When you've been trying this long you stop being really good in the 2WOOFL. You just don't drink the entire bottle of wine

Now, must shuddup in case Gin has spoken...

extremesitting one of the lads in my office bought an i-phone and bunged his work SIM card in there. Because work don't have an "internet package" as such, his work iphone was "talking" to the internet every 15 minutes for months. His bll has come in at thousands a month . Work are not happy.

Well I thought I was on the way to earning more karma but i fear I've shot myself in the foot instead. Because we're moving again I'm being really ruthless with my books and throwing out everything I've not looked at in a year or will never read again. So I contacted one of my colleagues yesterday and asked if she'd like them (english language books are so expensive here) and I've just handed them over. She's russian and was saying she doesn't get much time to read classic literature but obviously she's read Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy - (pronounced in the most amazing way - I shall be practising to myself all day) and that she was looking forward to reading classic English literature. And... I handed over 3 large carrier bags mostly containing Marion Keyes, Confessions of a Shopaholic et al. There are a couple of classics in there... but there are a few Jackie Collins. She's going to think we're all heathens.

Anyone diffed or imaginary diffed?

Medee If you are pregnant, the baby has an independent bloody and circulatory system until it's ~6 weeks old. Nothing you do at this stage will make any difference to your pregnancy. You could spend all day bungee-jumping and sipping cocktails - it'll either implant or it won't. The UK and the US are the only countries which seem to totally freak out about alcohol and pregnancy... Anyone else remember the Roddy Doyle film where our pregnant heroine pukes in her handbag after too many shandys? Nobody is advocating a bottle of vodka a day, but a couple of glasses a week won't mean you give birth to Wayne Rooney!.

Disclaimer: I'm not a mother so my opinion counts for shit obviously.

What does [jd emoticon] mean? What what what?

I might be able to eek out some imaginary sypmtoms... twitchy womb and slight sicky feeling. However both could be otherwise explained easily enough - former: overactive imagination, latter: dodgy curry.

GIN - SPEAK TO US!!

Passing books on is always good karma. And Marian Keyes is fab; just because they package her in a chicklit way doesn't mean that her writing is rubbish - lady gives good emotion. After all, Rachel's Holiday is all about rehab...

Am 3 dpo and feeling vomitty. Probably a reaction to 2 weeks of booze & food.

gin poas news this morning?

Ginny - we need an Update!

Passing book on = good. Throwing books away = akin to burning them. I was (luckily) stunned when SIL said she'd thrown books away when moving. (Luckily, since otherwise would have hurled abuse at her otherwise rather nice and reasonable personage) Why why why would anyone do this?

What's everyone reading right now? I've just finished 'The Girl Who Played With Fire' - fabbo.

scorps does that mean you have a v handy blue parking badge you can lend out to us so we can park acutally near the shops?? Can I be your bestest friend? I promise to love you forever if you'll lend it to me??

vag Still haven't managed to read The Girl Who Played With Fire, but is definitely on my hit list.

Wow. Your question has just freaked me out. I haven't read anything serious in months. On holiday, I read only frivol. And I'm currently in the middle of a work-reading fest, so the last book I finished was called Motive: Secret Baby. The one before that? A Special Kind of Family.

VAG To upset myself I'm reading a couple of pregnancy books. In one bathroom there is a "change your life in 5 minutes" type book. In the living room there is a "work related" book and in the other bathroom there's some feminist thing going on - I'm also on a horse-training book.

I am so disorganised I so rarely get the chance to sit down and read a novel - I actually prefer "facts". Sad, old git. I have a pile of "to read" books which take up two shelves - so they're not really a pile at all are they?

This is why I must get pregnant asap, I really need some time to read.

ski Have you read Misconceptions? The Naomi Wolf thing? Is marvellous for righteous feminist anger about pregnancy, thus combining two of your reading themes.

camel - reading doens't have to be serious! I recently re-read the entire Dark Is Rising sequence for fun! Sorry - it wasn't supposed to be a Spanish Inquisition (with comfy chair), I was just curious. (Also looking for ideas for Thai trip)

Pregnancy books seem v brave to me. I am in utter denial still though.

I wouldn't mind a list of good books please ladies. Am off on my hollyways next weekend (yes - somehow we are doing it despite looming mortgage payment). I decided to rifle out the books I have bought and never read. These include:

Everything bad is good for you: Steven Johnson
Incendiary - Chris Cleave
Venus as a Boy - Luke Sutherland
Notes on a Scandal- Zoe Heller (potentially the last remaining person on the planet who hasn't read that one)

If you have read any of them and they are a waste of space then let me know so I can leave them at home. Would also love tips on whats a must read. Bear in mind I do not want to be made too depressed!

PS - I also enjoy a sneaky read of Marian Keyes and agree that the artwork used on her covers suggests writing in the manner of the Telly Tubbies, when in fact she is really very entertaining. And I enjoy the rhythm of her writing - makes me feel like I'm reading a letter from someone back home.

I liked Notes On A Scandal and have actually re-read it.

What type of books do you like most? (I'm a Scandinavian crime fan and also love historical fiction, for example)

I also read "The Reader" recently - about the concentration camp guard. I'd been putting it off as feared it would be heavy-going but it was really not. It was very well written, concise and deliberate and very thought-provoking. And not very long. I would recommend it. A really interesting novel.

I just read the new Marian Keyes on holiday, This Charming Man, and it was bloody brilliant - possibly her best ever.

Also it's 900 pages long so lasts for ages (well, nearly 2 days when reading avidly on the beach).

Deffo recommend for your hols extreme

Cheers Girls!

vag Was freaked out by myself! I love my reading habits and will defend commercial fiction to my last breath. However, I'm not usually quite so short on balance in my reading habits.

I LOVE the Dark is Rising. Love, love, love. Drunkenly bonded with one of my now-best mates over trying to remember the rhyme that structured the book.

Lyra Really liked This Charming Man, too. Is very, very dark.

camel I haven't. I have to pace myself with Naomi Wolf because if I read more than a few chapters at a time I find myself twisting my hear in to dreadlocks, throwing out my heels and rioting (and off the cock obv.)

VAG The only chapters I haven't read have been the actual "birth" thing. la la la I can't hear you.