Anyone out there who's recently MCd and back to TTC without waiting?

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Hey everyone. I have a DS (18 months) and had first MC last week at only 5 and a half weeks. Have wondered whether to wait for AF but after obsessively reading most threads on the subject in MN - have decided to take the plunge and TTC just as soon as I can ... Anyone in a similar boat wanting to join this thread and spread the baby-dust? xxxx PS Am terrified it won't happen for months / it will happen and I'll be a compulsive knicker-checker

Thanks twilight for the encouraging story.

cheepz - hope your credit card is OK . Seriously, glad you had a good time. It is such a relief when the bleeding stops. I've just started using the FertilityFriend website to chart my temp etc to try and guess when I next ovulate, especially given my whole cycle is out now. It's my new obsession!

Love the planning re the wrap dress - you are right, it could all start to happen for us in the next few weeks

just doing my accounts

still its my birthday next week and i needed the boost!!

retail therapy is definitely my favourite therapy and i like the thinking behind the wrap dress!

well we had dd's party today and 5 minutyes before evryone was due it started raining ! mad dash bringing stuff back in and getting drawing stuff etc set up in living room. had 8 toddlers and about 14 adults so got quite cosy! luckily dried off after an hour so they could go out and play and some ate inside, some in the garden so in the end worked out well. two of our friend sstayed after to help tidy and have a chat which was good then my sister came over with her family for a bbq so anothe rmini party. dd kept going all day without a nap and i'm so proud at the way she shared all her toys etc. very unusual for her! the amount of cake, biscuits, sweets etc that she ate is just shocking though

she's now fast asleep in bed. dh has gone off to do a 16 hour shift at work. he'll be knackered tomorrow but need the extra money if we're ttc. my plan is to put my feet up, wtach rubbish tv then have long bubbly bath before curling up in bed with a book.

woke up about 2 this morning to find dd cuddled in beside me. no idea how long she'd been there! kicked dh out to her bed so we could have more room!!

anyway hope you're all having good weekend. have nice relaxing evenings xx

thefatladyscreams - Excellent! I had just put the chocolate brazils away, but if they're going to make me younger... Fertility Friend is ace, though the forecasted start of period symbol freaks me out a bit.

cheepz wrap dress sounds like an excellent plan. Glad you had fun.

monkeysmaketheworldgoround - glad to hear it went well, sounds like a great day. Hope you enjoyed your evening.

Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend.

Hi everyone, recognise a few names!

I am 13 days post EPRC and still have preg hormones, peed on stick yesterday and STILL a pos line. I was nine weeks.

Seems like it is taking forever to be over.. so I can try again.

hi apples! that must be so frustrating for you. i guess all you can do is give it time, easier said than done though! hopefully it won't be too much longer for you x

hi apples - feel for you, patience not one of my virtues either and you just feel you need to be trying at least to feel like you are making progress, when you can't even start trying yet its the pits - especially since that seems to be when you want to try the most

lets hope its soon

Hello ladies,

I hope you all had a nice weekend!

cheepz thanks for linking me through to here ;-) and who knows, maybe soon we'll link each other through to a new ante-natal club. Sounds like you had a good time away! A long weekend away, at the coast in Dorset (not this but the previous weekend) really did the trick for me too, in the sense of being able to look forward again. Sometimes a woman just needs a break!

I'm sorry I can't reply to everyone - thanks for welcoming me here. It's good to talk to and read of others who are going through something similar.

The reaction I got a lot in other places was "Oh well, look at the bright side, at least now you know that you can conceive. And next time it will work out!"
This I found totally useless... it sort of reduces the MC to a cycle of TTC which didn't work out. Next time... yeah sure. I've had plenty of "next time" thoughts in the last few months, but a MC is not the same! Looking at the bright side, sure, I know I can conceive, but what good is that? In exchange for that "knowledge", now I have thousands of new worries about being able to carry to term... Over all, this comment just doesn't take account of the grief. Yes, with luck there will be another BFP and a baby sometime. But it won't be THIS one. This one has died. And you can't just replace one with another, can you? Sure, I do look forward again now - but at that moment, just after MCing, you need to accept that there is grief, and this grieving needs space and time...

On a completely different note, I've been measuring my base temperature since MCing, and I am a bit confused. Can anyone help me with these questions?

• Some people say, count the first day of MC as first CD. Others say, wait until the bleeding has stopped, then start counting. Any opinions/experiences?
• I am now at CD 23, counting the first day of MC as CD1. Usually I ovulate sometime between CD 17 and 20. You can view it here:

www.mynfp.de/display/view/86193/ (it's in German, but anyone used to these things will be able to make sense of it, I suppose). This time, again, it seems like ovulation might have been at CD 18. Does this make sense, after MC? That everything is right in line again?

• On the other hand, usually my basic temperatures are much higher! Last cycle, in which I conceived, the pre-ovulation temperatures were around 36.7 and post-ovulation they were around 36.95. Now in this cycle, the pre-ovulation temperatures were around 36.5 and, if indeed ovulation was on or about CD 18, they are at 36.7 post ovulation. Over all, about .2 lower than in the last few cycles. Does anyone have any ideas why this might be so?
• I have a suspicion that the temperatures are so low because I'm not producing enough of the right hormones... anyone know anything about this?

I'm just quite confused and don't really understand what my body is doing, on the one hand it's all so "normal", and on the other hand it's way off! Any kind of re-assurance would be very welcome!

Best,
Meita

apples, so sorry to hear that, I hope it all sorts itself out soon! I'm finding it hard to understand what my body is doing, although compared to you, it's all straight forward. I hope your hormones give you a break soon.

not sure what the right answer is but i counted cd1 as first day of mc and am calling it cycle 0 as am expecting it not to be normal in terms of length, when i ovulate etc, the cycle 1 will be post next AF when I would expect things to be more predictable and normal

I haven't ever used temperature as I get such strong ovulation cramps and my cycles are so regular I don't generally need to so can't help you there

Wow, so many positive stories about increased fertility post-miscarriage! Just wanted to add mine, as I had a chemical pregnancy at 4+something in Feb, and got pregnant straight away too. Am now nearly 25 weeks with DC1. Good luck with TTC and really sorry for your losses. I was a wreck after just 4 weeks so I can't imagine going through it at a later stage.
x

Morning everyone

Lovely to see you here apples . Let's hope we can make this into a positive thread for us all. Not sure what's happening about your positive test. The EPAU tested me one week post m/c and said it was still postitive. I was told to test in another week (2 weeks post m/c) and expect it to be negative (it was) but to call them if it was positive. Maybe your hormones are slow to drop, we're all different and our bodies will respond in different ways - but I'd give your GP or someone a quick call to check to put your mind at rest.

meita - I guess some people just don't know what to say - so say something stupid . It is a grief - and comes up at funny times to remind you. I'll be feeling fine and then something (like an association with a date in the future when I was hoping to be xxmonths pregnant catches me out).

Regarding temping, I've read to count the first day of bleeding as day 1 but not to expect a regular cycle. I guess it all seems very vague. I'm trying temping and OVK to check when I'm ovulating and it hasn't happened yet (it would have in a normal cycle) so I guess we just have to be patient (damn ) until our bodies right themselves. Not sure what to make of the changes in your temps. Did you notice any changes in cervical mucus (sorry TMI ) that might help you calculate?

Glad the party went well monkeys - sounds brilliant but exhausting. Hope you caught up on your sleep!

katster37 - thanks for the positive story. We need these reminders!

Hope everyone has a good week.

Hello all,

apples How frustrating! I'd echo what thefatladyscreams says and give GP/EPU a quick ring, in all probability they'll tell you to wait another week and test again, but it may put your mind at rest that it's totally normal since the further along you were the longer it takes the HCG to drop, fingers crossed for you.

meita I had the "well at least you know it's possible" from quite a few people (everyone at school knew because the head made me take a week off when slap cheek was going round)I think people just feel the need to say something and don't always get it quite right! Re: temping, I think it can take a little while for hormones to rebalance etc, but perfectly possible to slip back into normal patterns, my first cycle post MC was about 7-10 days out, I think (as I said, I'm rubbish at remembering to temp) but this one seems fairly normal.

katster37 - thanks for cheering me up

I have a quick question - assuming my cycles have gone back to normal, and it seems like this one has, AF is due on Saturday. A uni friend is getting married on Saturday, do I

a) not drink "just in case"

b) test on Sat if no AF, trust the result to be accurate and drink/don't drink as appropriate.

c) stop overthinking things, not test, and just have a few drinks (which will also serve to avoid any "ooh, not drinking, anyting you want to tell us" comments from people who don't know about MC)

d) stop harrassing other people and make my own decisions

Desperately hoping for a BFP because, quite apart from the obvious reasons, it means I can blame hormones for the fact that I was tearing up whilst watching Deal or No Deal

Hope everyone has a good start to the week.

Definitely not d - what would happen to MN!

Personally I'd go for b.

Fingers crossed for the w/e for you.

Hopefully the crying at Deal or No Deal is an early sympton of pregnancy. If not I'd put it down to a bad case of TTC stress!

I'd go for b) too - on the day when AF is due, good tests should be 99% accurate. Assuming your cycle is not too much off, it should be fairly correct.

I wouldn't do c) cause IF I'd later MC again, I'd be so sure that was the cause...

a) might be an option if it were me, as I drink little anyway and often not at all - so, easy to explain. I for one would prefer to err on the side of caution - but then, that's me!

and as to d), well tfls answered that one!

I would also go a) but then I rarely drink so no one would ask any questions

If I drank a little then would go with TFLS and c)

Better day at work today - still poor concentration but I am making progress and i felt knockout in my new outfit which makes a change from being dowdy mum most days!

Thanks everyone for your input re: temping.

TFLS usually I would be tracking CM as well as temperatures, but this time I just didn't have the heart for it - had a hard time keeping up on the temp side as it was. Yes, sometimes it's hard, simply to be patient with ourselves, isn't it!

BLP yeah, and tbh I know I have made similar blunders in the past. At that moment, I probably would have been upset with just about anything anyone could have said - so I'm not too angry at what people say or don't say. As long as I get the impression that they do, in fact, mean well.

Cheepz wow I'm imagining you with a HOT outfit! Myself, I had my hair cut - from quite long to rather very short... I needed the change! When I walked out from the hairdressers I felt very frail... didn't know if I liked the outcome... but now I feel liberated. So, not too bad overall.

g'night everyone!

Morning. Thanks for your help, test on Saturday (if needed) it is. Meita, you're right, c wasn't really an option, I blamed myself for this miscarriage and I'd followed all the advice even when, scientifically speaking, I didn't see a valid reason for it.

Any normal night out and me not drinking wouldn't be at all unusual, it's just the fact it's a wedding, leaving the wine untouched and not drinking the champagne for the toast will be noticed, though to be honest, if I have cause not to drink I may well be too happy to care (obviously before the neuroticism sets in properly!) Will buy a new test in Cambridge tomorrow just in case it's needed, bought a box of tampons in tesco last night, hoping to invoke sod's law!

Thanks for stopping me dithering, have a good day.

'trying to invoke sods law' - love it!!!!!! gave me a chuckle at my desk - thanks

hello everyone! how you all doing?

meita i've just had my hair cut off too and i love it. makes my head feel so much lighter!! glad you're liking your new style!

BLP i would probably have chosen option c but option b will give you more peace of mind. option d made me chuckle. do you live near cambridge? i do..........

cheepz glad you've had a better day at work today. must admit today i'm feeling more normal than i have for a while which is good. seems like we're all managing to get our heads straigt again!

well it was dd's actual birthday yesterday. i'd wrapped up a couple of presents the night before and stupidly left them in living room. she went downstairs before either of us and promptly opened them, bringing them up to us once she'd got the paper off!! it did make us laugh. we didn't do much really. had a friend come over and he and dh took dd for a bike ride while i did some work. otherwise just chilled out really. been in work today, dd just gone to sleep so off for a long hot bath then planning to get my fix of holby city! simple pleasures!

Hi All,
Recognise some names from miscarriage threads over the past few weeks

Can I pop in and say hello here too?

Finally had ERPC yesterday at 11+5 after finding out 3 weeks ago that it was anembryonic pregnancy. Feeling OK. Bit crampy but other that that fine.

Realise that it may take some time to ovulate but going to wait for a -ve test and then get things going again! Hopefully the hormones will reduce quickly as keen to TTC as soon as possible.

Anyway probably still a bit early for me to be thinking too far ahead I suppose, but then I've never been the most patient of people .

Looking forward to chatting to you all and hopefully everyone will get happy news soon.

waves excitedly at mintchoc - we said we'd met again (humms the tune under her breath) on a TTC thread!

You're in excellent company here when it comes to impatience . You might even end up looking like a paragon of virtue compared to some of us!

Glad you've got the ERPC out of the way. Hope you're feeling OK - take it easy.

Sorry about the second post but I can't multi task.

BLP - love the sod's law theory. I'm hoping you have a very sober wedding (in the nicest possible way!)

Love your DD's style monkeys. Did that mean you got a lie in - ever hopeful!

Waves back at TFLS - Hi again. Spotted you and a couple of other familiar names on here so decided to hop on. Hope you're doing well. Great to catch up again on a more hopeful thread, and thanks for the lovely welcome.

I'm going to repeat every night -
I will be patient
I will be patient
I will be patient etc, etc, etc

Maybe

Good morning ladies,

I hope you are all well, and welcome MintChoc! Sorry that you had to go through all that. In a way I'm finding the waiting for my body to sort itself out to be one of the more stressful parts of the whole MC-experience. It's like, after the shock and the grief and the time when everything was just terrible, you find yourself picking yourself up again, looking forward... and then you encounter the big "wait" sign. Totally with you, regarding impatience!

Sod's law - hmmm should have bought that OPK yesterday! But stayed rational and decided there would still be plenty of time once AF arrives, and if she doesn't, well then I won't need it, will I?

What I did buy was a couple of HPTs, just to have them handy. Then I remembered that some of you have tested or will test at about 2 weeks after the MC, to make sure the hormones are back to normal and such. So, why not I thought, can't hurt, and used one of them right then and there. Happy to report that it's indeed BFN. Now I can be reassured that IF I get a BFP end of next week, if AF doesn't arrive until then, that it is not a residue of the previous pg that's showing up.

waves