Mid 30's TTC--Gin Palace Two: Spawn of the BESH

[SarahAbroad]

Hey all...

Hope this thread name is okay...just moved the Gin Palace around the corner before we ran out of space!

See you soon. The bar's open!

My previous boss, lovely guy, used to "joke" that he wished a preg test was part of the interview process...cue much ranting from me. Fortunately he invariably employs women of child bearing age because they're the best candidates and he knows to do otherwise would be immoral. Surely we working women should be positively encouraged to have children, otherwise the planet will be full of pleb-babies?

don'ttry, sounds like things are going pretty swimmingly physically, if not familialy (not sure that's a word).

Glad you're still popping into to see the BESHes. After all, you laid the foundations of the Palace!

hello again lovely lushies

so. i had another birthday - bah!

and i had my follicles counted - yay!

think there was about 11 in all. must say i'm a bit clueless about the whole thing. no idea if that's brilliant or what??!!

despite being mid "treatment" i haven't been able to fully support my TCC obsession. can't keep up with you lot and no time to research to death all aspects of ivf. probably a good thing really. when i did at the beginning i just ended up reading all the horror stories about accidental ivf death

anyway not dead yet, and to be honest finding it all pretty easy. they're "harvesting" my eggs next week. do they have to use the harvest word? i picture some big mechanical combine harvester (probably from a field in Little Spinnbarkeit) working it's way up my vagingo

spose i should've sloped off to the assisted threads really to get clued up - but i couldn't bear to leave you lot

and sorry you all went into a pit of doom for a while hope things start looking up for everyone soon.

positive visualisations that's what we all need. personally i think it's bollocks but "apparently" gives a better chance of success.

(in my case i'm sure that'll be down to the drugs and steady hand of the doc )

good luck to all the mad symptom spotters. sound like we got some goodn's this month.

low alcohol bellinis all round!!!

oh and ski in answer to your question from yonks and yonks ago. no chance of multiples i'm afraid. (which is shame as i would quite like to have gotten it all over with in one go)

the clinic we're using only puts one back. they've got a pretty good success rate though and use some swanky new techniques so we're going with the flow. they reckon success rates are over 50%

they still seem to think i'm quite young though maybe the daily hate is full of shite after all.

Happy birthday cheggers (hope it was fun-ish?)

glad all going well for you.wish I understood any of it so I could say something useful...

But here,have a massive birthday cake with 11 candles ...

My slight bleed stopped as soon as it started but am still sure it'll be RTOD.I do keep crazily trying to convince myself otherwise,but just as ski said she 'just knew' she was pg,I 'just know' I'm not.

In other news-this fucking rain eh???bastard shitting English summer.

thanks gin

do i really have to pick 11 names am struggling with 2 lol

birthday was ok. went out and toasted my fake fruitful loins with soda water. but had one wine spritzer when out last night with a bunch of peeps. just know i will blame a FAIL on that one thing if it all goes wrong.

anyway mustn't stress. is done now

how many days past ov was your slight bleed? does that normally happen?

you must stay positive!!

Rain ginhag? I'm only 200 miles from some of you.

cheggers I'm so glad to hear it's all going well, although tbf, for what you're paying I'd want it delivered in a fucking box with a bow on it! PS Happy Birthday you young thing you. I bought a Daily Heil earlier in the week and there was a story of a woman who'd advertised for eggs aged 52, we are young!

We are now approaching my OV days and thankfully I've got another week off work - although it is going to be nice to have sex without 2 four-legged friends appraising us as we go.

I am very mithered right now, my ski group has organised a "clinic" 1-3 March in Lake Tahoe with the American alliance demo team. What a selfish bunch o' caaaaahs - they KNOW I want a baby and they're doing this shit to me. sniffle

See I couldn't actually tell you how many days post-ov as am not entirely sure when ov was.min of 10 days,max of quite a lot more than that [utterly baffled by own body emoticon]

And no I don't think that normally happens but was pg,then bf and on pill,then pg again,then all the mmc stuff so to be honest I have no fucking idea.

I know staying positive is good in theory but don't want to push it to the point of being delusional

anyway,if my cycle was,say,28 days I'd be due on tomorrow.tho last month came on on cd26.and think this month I ov'd later but don't really know....

See I told you I shouldn't try and think about this stuff when I KNOW NOTHING.

However I have one of the several thousand pg tests I bought this month left,if no RTOD tomorrow I may test on Monday or something.but I am not pg.feel far too much like RTOD about to burst forth,and apart from spots and shit hair no convincing pg symptoms.

Happy Birthday Cheggers! Will you be playing pop at your party?

I'll get me coat.

ginhag - are you sure the RTOD feelings aren't your body playing tricks on you and they're mimicking pg symptoms? Or am I just symptom spotting-mad at the mo?

Hmm.not for me I don't think scorp.

Am (fairly) sure that I have never found pg and RTOD symptoms to be as similar as other people find 'em.when I've been pg I never really felt a RTOD coming on,but did have strong,different pg symptoms iykwim.

Having said that,with mani I didn't test til a few days after I should have come on (fella wouldn't let me!) so I think maybe the strong pg symptoms didn't come til free RTOD date...def never felt like I was coming on tho...

Blah blah blaaaaaah.would love to be proved wrong of course!

I do think that this is one of the drawbacks with being an 'educated' 'older' woman ttc.we all think about things far too much.

My mum just had sex,got pg,had kids- never stopped to think about it! But then she was,as she would put it 'young,stupid and clueless'. She's actually very smart but I get her point.

Right all you lot with sun can just fuck right off, ok?? It's pouring with rain here, we had the fire on yesterday and I have the lights on it's so bloody gloomy.

NOT IMPRESSED.

BTW I agree, interviewer had a bloody cheek, but it was at the end in the sort of chatty bit and at least he brought it up in a good way!

Cosmo I better not tell you that me and TYF got sunburnt whilst in Brighton then? Actually, it was shit - I hate suntans and in fact have never had one; I pride myself on having milky white skin as pale as a fresh corpse an 18C Aristocrat and despite the spf 10000000000000 on every inch of my body, the top of my chest got burnt to a lovely lobstery finish. All class. So have been in agony and I was wearing a dress with an asymmetrical neckline when burnt, so it looks bizarre. Hmmmmph. Am back to drizzle and greyness and rubbish weather now. My skin, at least, thanks me for it.

Just cunningly got my Mum talking about how she knew she was PG waaaaay back in the 70s using the frankly crap 'my friend thinks she's pregnant' routine and my Mum said, without prompting, that she knew she was diffed with my little brother the day after sex, as she got... wait for it.... itchy nips, fluttery womb feeling, a dry fanjo and needed the loo all the time! (She then said she realised she'd had all that with me but hadn't thought about it till she missed RTOD. gin* is right - back in the day, our mothers just shagged, got pg, had the baby, sorted. No thinking, stressing, obsessing, etc. - just BAM! Of course, they prolly weren't BESHes... (my Mum was 24 and 28 when she had us)

*My folks are wonderful, but I don't want to tell them we're specifically TTC yet as they're retired and gagging for GCs. Mum's really smothering and unable to cut the umbilical cord as it is and if I told her we were specifically TTC she's be ringing me every hour, on the hour, for news, I kid you not. And my Dad is mildly Aspergers and is the most indiscreet man on earth and would tell everyone my bidniz and also be constantly 'reassuring' me by going on and on about how Mum got pregnant on the first try both times and if I'm not the same then that means I'll probably never be able to have a child (he has said this years ago, thinking it was helpful... hmmm, the mind of the Aspy!) He's a lovely man, just sees everything in black and white. Ah, families; no wonder we want to expand them, eh?

Right, I'd better come clean. It's official: the nocoffeenoworkee household must get its finger out of its communal arse and get DIY-ing within the next 8 months or there's gonna be trouble. Yes, I'm preggers!

Have been celebrating with fizzy water for the last 3 days, but am feeling really pukey all the sodding time so it's not all gravy.

Still, I am rather chuffed with my poor little old ovaries

[departs Palace having deposited all remaining gin in the nocoffee boozecupboard, reluctantly]

Congrats nocoffee that's brilliant news and you've pulled one off in spite of your advancing age and BESH'ness!

DIY? I think you'll find that's Mr Coffee's domain from now on - why don't you put your feet up with a glass of San Pellegrino and a copy of Hello?

Oh and sit the fuck down, I don't remember anyone giving you permission to leave!

Christ, I'd love a good sit down. I'm bleedin' knackered! I'd love to stay if you don't mind [severe arm punches all round].

NCNW congratulations!!! Wooohoooo! So THAT'S why you've been avoiding us , you've been busy getting updiffed. And haven't you only been trying, like, 5 minutes? Hurray, another victory for the BESHes. In your FACE, Daily Heil.

Nocoffee congratulations! That's ace. [twisty pinch]

NCNW Am so jealous happy for you! But don't leave the BESH-lair; would hate to think one had to leave as soon as the BFP arrives

As Lyra says - in your FACE, Daily Heil! I think that as soon as each of us gets updiffed (we WILL, we WILL), we should take a picture of ourselves heavily pregnant and flicking the Vs at the camera and then send them, with our DOBs written at the bottom, to the office of the Daily Mail with a simple note reading' FUCK. YOU.'

There should be a proper RL BESH Society and we should take out full-spread ads in national newspapers and Women's mags featuring pregnant 35+ laydeez with the tagline 'I did it, so can you!', to encourage fellow BESHes across the land

Woop woop nocoffee!!!!

Also,thanks for the booze.

Everyone's right tho,you can't just leg it from the palace...it's like the mafia,once you're in there's no way out...

I will have a pint of wine in your honour this evening

well maybe just a half...in case I miraculously am pg.which I'm not.

I do have seriously impressive flatulance today tho!(doesn't really compete with nocoffee's news,but it's all I got right now!)

Woo-hooo nocoffee. bitch-slaps all round!

Don't you dare leave us though. Gves menacing glare.

I'm having a G&T in your honour right this minute.

Happy Saturday chaps.

Congratulations nocoffee - what great news! More details please, what did DP say and how do you feel?

Impressed at how restrained you're being donttrythis - you are a very good SIL.

I'm well up for a preggy pic mailed to Liz Jones of all the ginhounds flipping Vs... who's got a camera?

Scorpette I'm also not telling my folks we're TTC. My mum is a head case & while my dad & stepmum are great but I want to tell them "properly" once there is actual news to tell.

Oh and Skihorse I will trade your heatwave for the monsoon in my garden!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY cheggers!

Oh fucking bollocks.despite all signs to the contrary I now keep thinking ' just maybe' as RTOD not here yet. Y'know,the whole 'well if that was an implantation bleed (never had one before) then no wonder all the gazillion pg tests I took early (twat) were negative,maybe I am duffed and just feel exactly like I'm getting RTODbecause...oh I dunno there isn't a reason'

that sort of thing.and I know I'll wake up tomorrow bleeding and feeling very stupid (already feel that for doing all those tests when I know better)

I'd just like to know why the fuck if there are soooo many sperm and we shag lots at big O time and the little fuckers can hang about for aaaages - why isn't it easy to get duffed? Although I have a friend who has just had the 'one split condom,now 8 weeks pg' thing...so apparently sometimes it's easy!!!

Oh btw scorp I'm 99% certain your mum will be secretly thinking/hoping you are talking about yourself with the 'my mate thinks she might be duffed' thing.

she is prob very excited,just reining it in til she's sure....