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Mid 30's TTC--Gin Palace Two: Spawn of the BESH

999 replies

SarahAbroad · 21/07/2009 13:06

Hey all...

Hope this thread name is okay...just moved the Gin Palace around the corner before we ran out of space!

See you soon. The bar's open!

OP posts:
NeedChoos · 31/07/2009 14:01

God I've done nothing all morning but browse the weird ranty threads on here for purposes.

NeedChoos · 31/07/2009 14:05

See - completely usless today. Obviously need a large drink or am so over excited that a member of the Gin Palace could be allegedly diffed.

Love that story - where do I sign up for that?

extremesitting · 31/07/2009 14:07

That story is AMAZING Scorp. Thems the sort you usually read on the cover of "Take a Break" at the dentists!

Longwee I am going to be thinking of you all weekend now. Thanks for that.

In answer to your question Very I have spent the whole day reading this, then checking out foreign pee sticks, then checking to see if Longwee has peed on a stick. All whilst trying to write some boasty shit about myself in an application form. Why don't they just use the bloody CV I spent a month perfecting?!!

...have also been obsessing about implantation cramps and have been wiling my nips to get itchy. Another day well spent!

extremesitting · 31/07/2009 14:12

Does anyone think I can write in the tone I use with you guys (without mentioning breeding) on my application? I fear I have over analysed... want to be warm and friendly but am also cramming in every ounce of info I possible can. Now thinking I have been a bit over friendly. Dammit. Its a curse. Truly wish I was a cold bitch.. but then I probably would be in charge of the world instead of sitting in an extreme fashion.

longwee · 31/07/2009 14:18

Thanks for all the thoughts! I'll get back to y'all on Monday...!

Cosmosis · 31/07/2009 14:57

MONDAY MORNING????!!!!! We didn't sign up to wait till Monday!!!

VeryAngryGusset · 31/07/2009 15:05

No longwee you must not tell us until Monday! You must not!

(I'm away this weekend and don't want to be the last to know....selfish BESH emoticon)

RunLyraRun · 31/07/2009 15:07

extreme, speaking as someone who has spent two whole days this week (apart from the time I was on here, obv.) reading badly written application forms, can I please stress

I DON'T GIVE A FLYING OV STICK ABOUT YOUR CV (i.e. what you've done in the past), JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR ME, AND HOW YOU WILL GO ABOUT IT (i.e. give me an EXAMPLE of HOW you fulfil every criteria in the sodding person specification).

I favour including LOTS of info - the more you give me, the more marks I can give you

extremesitting · 31/07/2009 15:19

Lyra LMFAO!!!! I pity you... I really do! I too have endured the pain of application hell from the other side, which is why I have tried my damnedest to perfect this particular application! I've just been fretting that it might be met by someone at the other end who decides I have just copied everything written on the person spec, even though the person spec reads as a PERFECT MATCH to my CV.

I think you would like what I've written. Good god, I think I got it right!

Now go to the bar and get yourself another gin. You sound a smidge stressed

Scorpette · 31/07/2009 16:10

The fluttering is ridiculous now! It's like I've got fizzy pop in me womb! Would giving birth to a bottle of Peartiser (yum yum) be more or less painful than a human baby?

PS lyra and extreme: can I have a job? Don't hold my BESHmania against me - it's illegal!

Aerie · 31/07/2009 16:38

Afternoon lushes.

Cosmosis that all sounds very promising indeed! Keeping my fingers crossed for you and the interview guy sounds lovely. My friend was once interviewed by a woman who told her that if they offered her the job then, woman to woman, she wanted her to know that there was no issue with her getting updiffed at all just in case it she had been worrying about it. My friend was a bit . She has a young 'un now and said woman boss has been extremely good and flexible with her. I guess these workplaces really do exist. Jammy sod.

Longwee MONDAY!!! I guess I can wait until then....

Scorpette sounds like some bone fide symptoms to me. Of course, if not updiffed you'll be known forever more as "itchynipples" round these parts

Trig Hoooooraaay for RTOD!!! Sounds a bit weird to say that given all that it stands for and with the holiday n'all, but at least your body is resetting itself.

Extreme I feel your pain WRT application letters etc. I've written MANY over the past few months and I can't stand it! Raaar

Lyra LOL you still sitting on the fence lurking ? Join us......join us......join us......Was reading a couple of other threads and saw your musings there. I can totally identify with your fears. I am, by nature, an overly analytical person so have gone over it and over it until I'm crazy in the head. In the end I literally thought, what the hell, fuck it. And here I am. Romantic eh ?

Well now I've officially started SWI all of my usual OV symptoms have vanished and are nowhere to be seen this week so will prob be an anovulatory cycle or the onset of early menopause. Oh my timing is impeccable as always. Of course, I could also be OVing late this month, but that's no use to me as I'm away camping in a sodding heatwave with DH and a group of friends until Monday (I live in a different part of the world). He reckons we could find some bushes if necessary

RunLyraRun · 31/07/2009 17:14

Aerie yes I'm still lurking, still not SWI, but hanging out with you lot is getting me towards it...maybe! We're going on safari/beach holiday in Kenya a week today (please don't hate me ), and then we're supposed to start SWI when I get the malaria tablets out of my system - September basically. Eeeeek.

Are you complaining about a heatwave, by the way??? I don't think you'll find much sympathy here.

Talking of ov'ing, I had NO symptoms whatsoever this month - no sauciness, no mucus, but the GP says I DID ovulate - progesterone was 41 on day 21. That was probably my last viable ovum, gone forever, .

GP advised me that EWCM is actually called SPINNBARKEIT - shall we adopt this term as it is a) less gross, and b) esoteric - like us ?

extreme, I look forward to reading your application!! Sounds a damn sight better than the last FIFTY TWO

Aerie · 31/07/2009 18:26

SPINNBARKEIT??? Sounds like the name of a little quaint village somewhere. That's why I love this place, I get to learn all of this obscure stuff to dazzle my friends with.

I occasionally set questions for a pub quiz, do you dare me to put that in? "Who or what is spinnbarkeit?". Anyone who answers correctly is either a Gynae or one of us BESHes!!!

Lyra September - eeeeeeeeekkkkk!!!! Now I'm freaking out on your behalf. That's only a month away eeeeeeekkk.

Have fun in Kenya BTW.

Scorpette · 31/07/2009 18:45

If I move to Spinnbarkeit, will I have a better chance of getting updiffed? I want a lovely old house with a garden full of wildflowers in the back, where I can wander about scratching my nips without being overseen

Lyra I didn't have my usual ov symptoms this month for the first time EVER (which, as I think I mentioned, had me crying 'what if last month was the last time I could ever fall pregnant? What if I became infertile forever in June? Waaah!' on TYF's shoulder, like an abject loon), but I did eventually 'visit spinnbarkeit' on Monday and Tuesday, although not quite as pants-ruiningly as usual (TMI ahoy!). Was wondering earlier this year if I ov 1 month on, 1 month off. I did read on one website, in an article about home ov tests not working properly, that sometimes your ovulatory window can be as short as 45 mins! So if you're a BESH, you could do an Ov Test at 9am on a Monday, ov at 1pm until 1am, then ov ends and by the time you test at 9am on Tues, the ov is over, so the tests will make you think you've not ov'ed at all PS read that some couples use actual egg white as a lube at ovulation time to either bulk up or replace missing ewcm Erm, hygienic*?

I can't help wondering if the stress of symptom-spotting and wanting Teh Diff actually blocks the ov? Or at least stops us feeling horny and therefore thinking we're not ov-ing properly?

Trig think I got the wrong end of the stick re: your RTOD Have a nice hol, no matter what

*Bet if we're still trying TTC in a year, I'll be getting through a carton of eggs a day

Waitrose free-range organic, natch.

Aerie · 31/07/2009 19:44

'tis good to know that in the absence of my usual OV symptoms I may still have actually popped one out of rapidly shrivelling ovaries.

Going on what Scorpette just said though, maybe a visit to Spinnbarkeit may still be on the cards, just not when I would normally visit. Ah well, I'll inform DH that finding some bushes at least once this weekend is high on the agenda

triggerhappybaby · 31/07/2009 20:20

Scorps no worries, I knew what you meant but, for me it is the RTOJ(oy) as it does indeed mean I have rebooted. Well sort of as it gave a good show for about 3 hours and has given up the ghost again now, but I had a phone call from the hossie at lunchtime to say my hormone levels are now back to normal and I have been 'discharged'.

And speaking of which, my biology A level teacher once informed a select few of us that vaginal discharge rejoiced in the technical name of 'Billings'. Which was comedy as there was a chap called Stephen Billings in our class

skihorse · 31/07/2009 20:44

hello everyone Scorpette I had a fluttery uterus when I was diffed... I just knew I was and the flutters started about a week before I was due RTOD.

I have indeed been camping on an island in the north sea between The Netherlands and Denmark and we've actually come home a day early because I am FED UP with the sun. We are both brown as berries. RTOD arrived as we were packing the car last saturday morning - which of course was brilliant timing.

I was really hoping to come back to a load of preggos Longwee sounds promising and I realise she probably knows a friend of mine who is also in/out of Malawi as part of conservation/game work.

I have managed to get heatstroke so just as well I wasn't diffed... stopped at a petrol station on the way home to get yet more water. A young polish girl, very pregnant took the weight off her feet to light a fag. Bless.

ginhag · 31/07/2009 21:40

Umm hello have been lurking around somewhere in the bottom of the pit,gloomy as eeyore.

Am currently trying to convince myself that the very slight bleeding I'm having is implantation rather than the start of RTO fucking D.it's not though,I'm just a sad basket case.

Stupidly obsessed with being pg.and I mean stupidly.think deep down I'm worried that I'm maybe not allowed another perfect little person after having mani,and I'm just fucking greedy to expect it.

Anyway,with regards to stuff other than me and my currently very spotty face ( I don't get spits!well I do when I'm pg! Oo I'll get all obsessed about that shall I?etc)

ski welcome back

Lyra cheers bird,am still around just wallowing and so bit quiet.please join me n ski in aforementioned camp cocktail.

trig fucking ace that is such a relief.I can sympathise as my body was twattish in a very similar way,it's shite.

longweeonastick you won't get this til mon but ooooooooo.I would imagine you are duffed.

scorp I didn't have any fluttering (well not til 20 weeks ish when he was big enough to actually feel) but know ski did so hopefully oooo too.I had very weird feeling boobs,puking,spots and shit hair as early 'signs'.nice.oh and my sense of smell went mental

everyone else yo! Hope cosmos interview and extremes applications bring joy and riches.

Fuck I'm exhausted now

ginhag · 31/07/2009 21:45

By the way,plenty of high-camp cocktails to go round.chin chin,don't singe your hair on the sparklers.

triggerhappybaby · 31/07/2009 22:35

HOLIDAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Scorpette · 01/08/2009 00:29

Thanks everyone for the encouragement on my deluded apparent signs of diffedness. Have felt a bit down (oooh, is that a pg-hormone mood swing?) and been telling self there are perfectly good non-pg reasons for symptoms:

Itchy, tender nips: different type of mastalgia?

Fluttery feelings in womb: extra-bad RTOD gearing itself up for its onslaught in 10 days? Trapped wind? Bladder prob? Just 'one of those things'? Small bird flew up my chuff and is now trapped in my uterus?

Keep needing a wee more than usual: Could have got a bit of honeymoon cystitis from the dirty weekend (though doesn't hurt to wee)?

Feeling dizzy: just feeling tired/hungry?

Bad back: just got a bad back?

Fanjo feeling vv dry: again, too much shaggage?

Spots: am merely a BESH minger with the indignity of spots and wrinkles ?

I can't be feeling symptoms after only a few days, surely? Unless I did diff up but it was last week and not this one, like I've been thinking? Will stop being self-obsessed now and go lie awake for hours obsessing about symptoms and choosing baby names go to sleep

ginhag nice to see you lurking there in the corner Instead of thinking that you're not allowed another gorgeous child, keep telling yourself that you've done it once, so you know you're capable of doing it again! Fingers crossed re: the spotting

donttrythisathome · 01/08/2009 08:41

Longwee I used ketchup packet POASs. They were tiny little cardboard sticks. In my ones if there was any second line at all, no matter how faint, you was diffed. Mine was virtually invisible 4 days before RTOD due, then got a lot stronger in the following days.

My only symptom was period like cramping, though not painful. No itchy nipps yet

Am I the only one who thinks cosmos interviewer had a bloody cheek bringing up sprogs? I know it was in a nice way, and am glad it went well Cos but still....

Heatwaves. HEATwaves?!! Ye shower of FECKERS!!! Most

RunLyraRun · 01/08/2009 09:46

Morning donttry, how are you feeling? Are you still the only up-diffed lush? I think you might be. Tell us all about it please - weeks, symptoms. have you told people etc.???

I agree with you about Cosmo's interview - I work in the NHS and you never so much as ask a personal question of ANY sort in an interview, it's all kept very formal. The absolute last thing you would mention is children.

Pissing down again...I told Aerie she shouldn't have mentioned her heatwave! Where are you Aerie?

donttrythisathome · 01/08/2009 10:06

Yeah Lyra I'm in the public sector and they wouldn't DARE mention that. Mind you I'm sure they think it and there is sexism there too.

All the other up-diffed lushes sloped off to other threads so i'm the last one standing..for now. Nearly 10 weeks, no symptoms except tired grumpy burpy farty crooked teeth (oh no, can't pass them off on preg) and nauseous. Just the normal me, really.

Haven't told anyone yet as SIL is TTC and will have a freak attack when she hears her younger bro is having one before her. Would normally have no truck with that nonsense, but she suffers from anxiety.... It's driving me mad as really want to tell people.

Whinge over.

skihorse · 01/08/2009 10:13

Oh bugger, I really wanted to wish trog nice holidays and congratulate her on her returning RTOD and (we hope) a negative test very shortly.

Scorpette I knew from about 5/6DPO. I just "knew" - lots of women do but I think for us first-timers we're maybe a little embarassed to say so. Take a look over at www.twoweekwait.com - lots of stories there to inspire you - or alternatively drive you fucking insane.

And who was it who was looking for implanation statistics to back their cause? Here: www.justmommies.com/articles/implantation-bleeding-stats.php - anyone else need a website full of facts to send them in to a neurotic tailspin?

Thank you for the yummy cocktail ginhag, it'll get me through the mountains of washing. I can exactly get where you're coming from in the why should you be so lucky to get it twice? Why shouldn't you though?

re: jobhunting - I've been with my current people 9 years, but I remember the last time I was hunting there was a distinct whiff of "this one's of child-bearing age, no thanks".

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