Mid 30's TTC--Gin Palace Two: Spawn of the BESH

[SarahAbroad]

Hey all...

Hope this thread name is okay...just moved the Gin Palace around the corner before we ran out of space!

See you soon. The bar's open!

[RunLyraRun]

puddinghag, 'course it's normal. Like when your best mate gets the promotion you both went for, or you and said mate go out with a pair of blokes and yours dumps you whilst hers proposes. (Bitter, moi?) You're entitled to be sad for you, happy for her, and jealous as all hell. You just have to smile through gritted teeth.

Here, have a Chines burn (is that racist?) and a Glasgow kiss to boot (is that racist too?)

[Scorpette]

ginpud - it's completely normal. Especially for a spawn of the BESH A good friend would probably guess you'd feel a bit weird/bad about it.

[Nocoffeenoworkee]

Ooh, is that an infertility inducing espresso machine I spy? And a subscription to the Gruniad? Ladies, you are spoiling me. Who's for a recurrant bellini?

Preggy Trying Scorpette NocoffeenoworkeeGiven up/Angry/Drunkidealcamel VAGToo terrified to try but is supposed to be starting when get back from KenyaRunLyraRunAlready wrestling small but quite fancies another (tequila?)ginhag

[Nocoffeenoworkee]

WTF is going on with my stars? Rubbish...

[longwee]

Preggy Trying Scorpette NocoffeenoworkeeGiven up/Angry/Drunkidealcamel VAGToo terrified to try but is supposed to be starting when get back from KenyaRunLyraRunIn denial about trying and pretending to 'just see what happens'LongweeAlready wrestling small but quite fancies another (tequila?)ginhagGot symptoms & planning to POAS soon.....
??? anyone to give us some encouragement?

[longwee]

I agree, this asterisk thing is shit. I totally didn't do my bolds like that. Toss.

[cheggers]

haha i've tried that before but given up coz it looks a mess.

yo everyone. remember me?

have been imprisoned at work for the last couple of weeks doing ridiculous constant 10 hour days to get a bunch of deadlines out ...

boring. and altogether not how i'm supposed to be acting mid ivf.

i'm sure i should be relaxing in acupuncture offices or lying with hot stones on my back or something.

anyhow. nearly 2 weeks in now. kind of enjoying the nightly injections in a weird ritualistic manner. saying that though i'm still only on the iddy biddy needles that go in my belly fat at the mo. the big fuckers come at the end of this week

so. only 2 big fuck off barneys with my lover so far. both quite dramatic involving storming out of flat and screams of divorce.

we're not even sure that's the drugs though. such things are known to happen in our real life anyway

anyway off to catch up on all your gossip.



if i'm even allowed in with that .....

[Scorpette]

Hello cheggers! Am a newby; I don't drink, so join me in the boring corner - they're all to busy mauling George Clooney anyway.

Talking of fit blokes, I'm watching that new drama 'Desperate Romantics' on BBC2 (about The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood). That Aidan Turner bloke - have we got any roofies we can slip him to get him back to our lair? He is HOT (fancied the arse off him in 'Being Human' too). Think I have pissed off TYF by going on about how lush he is. I feel my ovaries re-plumping just by looking at him

(Wish there was a 'pervy leer' emoticon!)

I watch too much telly. Am going to betray my dweadfully middle-class roots by letting future kiddiwinks watch too much as well, aren't I? Meh.

[donttrythisathome]

[donttrythisathome]

Naw, you can keep him. Tiny willy.

Love the new gaff - is suitably dark and evil. Also PMSL at the new names.

ginhag must have been a horrifying scan

Can we have a new category in the list?

not tempting Fucker Fate by putting herself on preggy listDTTAH

[donttrythisathome]

Fecking stars.

[longwee]

'lo cheggers - I crashed while you were at work (but I brought a massive bottle of gin so I think they're gonna let me stay - at least till it runs out)

On the subject of 'proper trying' and the stress it causes (which we were on briefly sometime in the other place, before they turfed us all out for being cynical old harpies), how much do you think it puts a strain on your relationship and makes shagging kinda functional and depressing and the whole thing all-consuming and miserable? As I said we're not officially 'trying' - just 'seeing what happens' - but I really don't see how we're gonna get anywhere until we really have a proper crack and make sure we shag a dozen times when I'm ovulating. My ovaries are probably too shrivelled to accidentally plop out an egg which coincides with the rather infrequent sex (hmmm that's another post right there...). But on the other hand, once we go down the 'trying' route I reckon it'd be hard to get out, and that could well cause no end of tension and obsessing. Whaddayall think?!

Fuck, you know what, it's him who had to chinese burn me into chucking away my contraceptives - the idea of children terrifies me. So why am I the one now obsessing over whether we'll manage it or not - I don't see him counting his sperm or writing to imaginary friends about the effectiveness of his manparts.

Apologies for being so MEMEMEME but I'm a bit fucked off this morning...

[ginhag]

Hey don'ttry I am very pleased with my name so thangooveymush (Elvis voice)

yeah I think that's where we fall down with any 'list' ideas,we need a category for each person!maybe we should have just done aa style intros for ourselves instead.

How many weeks are you now mate?don't want to add to the stress n shite of early pregancy and what happened with me not that common,so I will endeavour not to mention it again.you're right tho,it was a very bad day.

On another note,I have def gone well past the ov bit of my cycle (tho not sure when it was as me n my body still not getting on too well) soooo am going to drink slightly less than your average fish for the next week or however long I have to go before RTOD just in case I am duffed again.knowing me,if I am then I'll be projectile vomiting like crazy by then I actually hate being pregnant.we should fucking evolve!

[laurielou]

Morning,

Can I be on 3 lists? Somedays I feel confident, so we're trying, other days full on denial & we're just seeing what happens, other days just staggering around pished & angry with a serious case of can't be arsed.

longwee me & the boyf are exactly the same as you!! He had to wrestle my beautiful contraceptive pills off me, oh how I miss them, & he would've been happy for me to have been up-diffed from day 1 of our relationship (not that I put out that easily).

BUT, now its me taking my temps each morning & sporting a bruise on my arm from blood tests yesterday, while he adopts the "yeah, yeah, tomorrow" attitude for booking in for his MOT. Grrr, tosser!

puddinghag how was your evening with preggers friend? Perfectly allowed to be a bit jealous. But while you were swigging back the alcohol what was she drinking, eh?

My friend too is PG, in fact a couple of days over due. How is it possible to be insanely jealous & thanking every God there is that its not me in that situation?

Preggy Trying Scorpette Nocoffeenoworkee Laurielou Given up/Angry/Drunk*
idealcamel
VAG
Laurielou

Too terrified to try but is supposed to be starting when get back from Kenya
RunLyraRun

In denial about trying and pretending to 'just see what happens'
Longwee
Laurielou

Already wrestling small but quite fancies another (tequila?)
ginhag

[laurielou]

Hells bells, I completely screwed up the bold, * bollocks. Sorry one & all!

[VeryAngryGusset]

longwee - me too on the 'in denial about trying' front. We haven't upped our GOFs, and my cycles are all over the place so it's impossible to time, and we simply can't be bothered to shag every day or every other day (seriously, who has time/energy/inclination for this?) Was hoping for an "accident" but as the months go past I realise it isn't going to happen. And that I run the risk of being really really upset if I do turn out barren, which I wouldn't be if we'd simply decided not to have kids.

Now where's that Pit of Despair? Did someone pack it when we moved?

[ginhag]

Morning laurie...see,further proof that we are not really a list type thread.we are faaaar too complex.

Last night was good actually.the weirdness will always be there I think but she's a really good friend and am v happy for her.had a text from another friend in the middle of our sophisticated soirée (2 for 1 dominoes pizzas,was not in a classy nor hostessy kind of mood).anyway text said she's 6 weeks pg with her second,was surprised as they weren't trying.(don't tell ski she will get the Red Mist of Rage descending)

again,she's a top bird so am pleased for her but,y'know,bllaaaaaaaaah.

Am liking the variations on my name!

[Cosmosis]

an addition to the list:

desperate to be pg but not really trying because of impending redundancy so really hopes she gets this new job she's gone for.
Cosmosis.

[SarahAbroad]

Morning all--whatever you think happened with Mr C last night, the man's with me. Really. I'm not deluded or nuffink.....

VAG, love what you've done with the name. And I totally know what you are talking about. I've gotten used to doing things on the first time, so thought we wouldn't really have to "try". And now I've gotten myself caught up in a perfectionistic frenzy.... Must stop taking this so seriously, but how not to take it seriously?!

ginhag, laurielou et al--I know how you are feeling with all the baby-making going on. I'm waiting for my younger brother's wife to have the first baby. And I'm happy and excited, but still, I can't help being really jealous too....

RIght--I am having trouble keeping up with the moment. (Sadly, not a hangover, just a late night out at the new Harry Potter film and a sinus infection.)

[skihorse]

RTOD due today, if what I've had are not pg symptoms then I'm driving to Zurich in the morning to be put down.
skihorse

Well ladies, I'm just in from the fecking garage, 236 euros for a new exhaust. I'm quite happy to ignore car problems until things hang off or come away in your hands - but we've got a 4 hour drive on saturday and a ferry... and you just KNOW that's when it would fall off. When I was at uni I had an ancient mini and when things fell off I just used to stop the car, open the boot and chuck the offending "bit" in. I'm a grown-up now though.

I stumbled across a horrifying thread yesterday about women who appear to be competing (boasting) about how little weight they've put on during pregnancy. e.g., 39 weeks and has put on 8lbs... says she has a wedding to attend in september and needs to be thin.

Can we all "keep it real" thanks and pass the Jaffa cakes? Pregnancy is the one time when I can be fat AND have a viable excuse!

[skihorse]

PS., am realising that "jaffa" is the wrong word for us lot. Custard creams then.

PPS. Longwee - yes, I doubt my OH is emailing his friends right now wailing "my swimmers don't have any tails and the ones which have just go round and around in circles, I feel like such a failure as a man."

[ginhag]

ski are you holding out for a bit before you piss on stuff again then?

I put on lots in pregnancy.prob cos I craved lasagne and tiramisu.did get horrifically skinny afterwards from a breastfeeding/stress/no sleep combo but I would never boast about that as I looked like shit.

[skihorse]

ginhag I'm going to try and hold until the morning - I just can't bear to see another fucking negative result.

[ginhag]

Really hope it's good news ski.

The thing I find hardest about all this shite is the sense of it not really being in our control.I mean,once you've done the shagging there's not really anything else you can do to affect the outcome-it's not like if you piss in a certain way it'll all come good...

mutley-type mumbles of a sympathetic nature to ya.

[donttrythisathome]

But ski RTOD hasn't arrived yet

Sarah I was at Harry Potter too last night
Think I zoned out as had to ask the fella what was the necklace thing at the end

I've been crying at the "home truths' thread - am in awe people can sum up what they feel so easily. I'm only clutching at what lies behind my unfocussed rages

ginhag I'm 8 weeks with booking in tomorrow. Mention away girl - there's no banned topics here in evilsville.

On the subject of trying I can't see any way around obsessing unless you know exactly when you pop one out. I mean the sulky oval fuckers commit hari kari 12 hours post-pop (I think)! Ironically the stress of obsessing then just delays ovulation so you miss the window anyway. Grrrr.... catch 22 or what. It's all well and good to say shag all the time but who wants fango burn?