The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

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New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

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Wow - so so glad to hear it Caitni.

You must have your booking appointment at the hospital soon, yes?

Just a quick one because I have to tackle the North London ironing mountain, but I was out last night and of the 10 women there (excl me), 2 had used clomid to conceive, 1 had used IVF (and is currently on a second miracle pregnancy), 1 is post-ectopic and considering her options (getting very stressed). Of the remaining women, only 2 are married, one of whom has 2 (naturally and easily conceived children) and the other still feels too young for kids. Just made me think how hard this TTC business is - nearly half of us had had some issues (and that's just the ones I have heard about). Quite a strange revelation; you'd think I would have realised...

Hello everyone,

Just a quick one as we are heading out it in a mo...

R4N2&3 Congratulations! Fantastic news. Keep us pipped on the names you choose.

caitni Fantastic news about the scan, I saw lots of funky prams when I was in Berlin, the Europeans have some really nice looking ones.

PnM I think that as your sister knows that you are struggling to have a child, it was rather insensitive of her to go into quite so much detail. Buckys steak analogy was a very good way of putting it. Of course you have mixed emotions about her pregnancy, completely understandable, all of us would feel the same. Do NOT beat yourself up about it.

I really must go but will be back... hello to everyone, I saw some of the old faces are back, hurray - hello mibbes, glad you and DS are well, and hello to all the newbies. Everyone here is just so lovely!

Ooooh it has gone quiet on here. HELLO?!

Anyway, sorry for my quick posts recently.

ei Glad you aren't disheartened by the comments you got on AIBU. People can be so nasty! I wanted to write a post saying what a lovely and cheery lady you are and how DARE people make such comments. You were holding your own very well though so didn't want to undermine your arguement with "but she's so nice, STOP IT" etc. I hope my comment was OK, I was so grrrrrrrrrrrr on your behalf!

bucky Lovely to see you. Good on you at the car boot sales, we really need to do one, it took us over an hour to locate the christmas decs last year, the attic is full of crap! I'm gutted on how your PCT are messing you about. How can they suddenly change their opinion on your test results? It is outrageous. Are you awaiting yet another scan?

GG I expect that you will not be popping in for a while but I just wanted to say that you and your DH are in my thoughts. It goes without saying that this latest attempt must have knocked you for six, so so heartbreaking, I just want to say that we are here if you need us

MOB Don't forget those pics when you get a minute, you too RFN2!! MrsH Great to hear all is well with you. When are you finishing work? Won't be long till you can put your feet up (pre baby of course!).

New people, welcome! I should explain that I graduated from the thread last year when DD was born but everyone is so nice, I stay around and chat. I hope they don't mind .

Anyhoooo, love to all!

Morning ladies

Ei I looked up your thread after JB mentioned it and I am totally and utterly at some of the responses! I read through most of it and was gobsmacked. My own personal (and rather uncool ) philosophy is that I post things I'd say in person in RL - which is why I pretty much never post in AIBU. The general vibe in that topic seems that the same posters crowd threads with rude posts, points scoring off each other like a bunch of adolescent boys . Which makes me think that people like moondog and some of the other regular and rude posters lead sad lives to get their kicks baiting people on AIBU! Pretty tragic inho. I think you were sensible to see your GP, who behaved like a total idiot - a problem many of us have come across when seeking advice about ttc. Not sure if I've mentioned this but I'd recommend the low GI diet. It worked for me - shed two stone without joining a gym or doing things like 6 hours of hard exercise a week (as one poster on that thread suggested ) - really easy to do with a job, a young child and a household to run double ). Anyway, enough ranting about the bitches ladies on that thread, I used a book by this guy Rick Gallop and what I liked about it is that it's not a faddy diet, but a lifestyle change, and I've kept the weight off mostly (until comfort eating when dealing with ftc and IVF ). You'll get there and I'm glad you'll be seeing a dietician

JB I love that you post here! You were already pregnant when I joined the thread and I like the continuum, helped me at least to keep my eyes on the prize during the long and stressful months of ttc - I'd be quite sad if people left once they'd got their BFPs (or their babies in your case) so you better stick around

MrsH hey, I thought the north london ironing mountain lived at my house . That's really interesting about the ladies you were out with. Just goes to show how the "I fell the first month trying" is definitely the exception rather than the rule a lot of the time...my booking app is on 23 Aug, with my first NHS scan on 25 Aug...which felt like ages away when the letter arrived but are gradually getting closer!

Waves to everyone else. Things fine with me - I'm feeling so much calmer after my scan on Saturday and am enjoying it (11 weeks today!). Right, off to a regular meeting...time for some work!

xxx

Afternoon ladies

MrsH I sent you a message on FB but someone in the Pregnancy topic is trying to find you - see here - so thought I'd post it here too

Hope everyone's well

Thanks Caitni. I found the thread and have posted. Your scan and booking appointment will come in no time. A word of warning - I find the Whit ante-natal clinics rather hot, crowded and stressful (partly because I am scared of hospitals) BUT the medical people have been very nice so far, so don't be put off by the nasty green lino etc! And talk to them about the birth centre - it is spanking new and looks lovely.

JB I am glad you still post here too. . I am not planning to finish work for another 7 weeks (although since I get only maternity allowance it kind of doesn't matter when I go - I will be broke regardless!) but I don't know how much feet up time there will be since I have lots to do...

Right, have been told I am all anaemic which explains why I am so knackered, so off to bed with me. Back tomorrow!

Wow, thanks everyone (digitalgirl, Caitni, RFN2&3, PicknMix, MadOldBird and MrsHappy - think that's everyone - sorry if not, am only quickly scanning the internet in a library!) for the lovely supportive greetings and advice, and BuckyforC for continued support. And congrats, RFN2! I haven't been on for a while as I've been down in Devon looking after my grandmother and only had very sporadic internet access (and some of it only on a phone screen). Just got my AF yesterday so feeling a bit low as usual (that's month two of the three after the HSG without the hoped-for success...) but cheered by the support on here, and the advice that IVF probably is the way to go. Will be on a waiting list by the end of next month, hopefully. (Well, most hopefully I won't need to be, but it's looking that way!) I might raise the Clomid thing one more time, PicknMix, but I suspect that I'll probably just wait for IVF now. There are obviously a lot of us inexplicables out there and it's not crazy to go straight for it even if there isn't a defined problem as such. Anyway, have to go catch a train but great to touch base again with everyone and good luck with whatever stage you are all at.

lizbaz sorry you got your af yesterday, but pleased your feeling positive about ivf now.

mrsh is it really only 7 more weeks of work?!! And do tell me more about the new birthing centre at the whit.

caitni are you going to Whittington too?

rfn2&3 apologies but I don't think I've had the chance to congratulate you yet!!! Are you nose deep in lovely snuggly babies unable to imagine them ever being big enough to toddle across the room?

So, I am unofficially wondering about doing a pregnancy test. It's been about 6 weeks since my last period and have been feeling crampy for quite a few weeks now. However I distinctly remember this from last time I was ttc'ing - cramps for weeks and then bfn after bfn till eventually af showed up on some random day. Bearing in mind my last cycle was 5.5 weeks I am late compared to that. But the cycle before that was about 3 months and nothing before that as that was my first period since giving birth. I am also still breastfeeding, ds has been cutting down but then last week upped his feeds as he was unwell. So am totally in the dark as to when I should test. Should I wait till my tummy starts getting bigger? Dh thinks I should test tomorrow so I can rule it out and go see the gp about these cramps.

Evening ladies

Lizbaz glad you are feeling ok about the possibility of IVF.

DG of course you should test. If it is a BFN, the cramps might just be your body "gearing up" to ovulate and then not. I had a lot of that during the year or so after my DD was born (she was BF until 7 months, but my periods came back after 14 weeks annoyingly). It took my body a while to get back on track IYSWIM and there were lots of random cramps in the meantime.

Hope everyone is well. No real news from me. Courgette is very kicky and I am less tired now I am on the iron pills. I just wish I could blink and make the next 10 or so weeks whizz by!

hello ladies sorry i've not been on here recently, have been feeling very low again and generally avoiding people (even virtual ones!)

evening ladies
hope everyone is well
not much happening here
got a stiff neck and a headache so im gonna ask DH to help me loosen it up seeing as how im due to Ov any day now anywho...
xx ei xx

ooh Digitalgirl you must test! As MrsH says it could be your body gearing up to get back on track...but it could also be you know what . I am indeed at the Whit, who apparently have a jazzy new midwife led birthcentre too though I've not actually booked in for a tour yet. Was that where A was born too?

MrsHappy I'm glad to hear the iron pills are helping with the tiredness - it's good that the anaemia was spotted. Also glad to hear that courgette is still kicking away. She's probably laughing away too if your last scan is anything to go by . I really hope the next ten weeks also rush by for you! And thanks for the heads up re the Whit antenatal clinics. I'm actually [whispers] thinking about a home birth...on the basis that I can always transfer in if I need to. My DH was born at home, as were some of his siblings and nephews and, since our conception was as medical as you can get, I'd like the birth to be as intervention free as possible. I'm going to see what the midwife says when I book in...

LizBaz sorry to hear AF arrived...fingers crossed for cycle three post HSG . Though also glad to hear you're feeling calm about the prospect of IVF, though I think you should bring up the Clomid thing again. I'd say ask any questions you need to feel comfortable with the treatment proposed.

Okiwi so sorry to hear you're feeling low again . TTC is such a rollercoaster and it can really get you down...I always found that I started to perk up as ovulation approached though. Even if I had vowed to take a month "off" of tracking signs etc I'd inevitably notice and get all hopeful that this month would be the month for the BFP. I think it's human nature (compounded by hormones). Hope you start to feel better soon and we're here whenever you want or need to rant xx

Ei am liking the name change . Good idea getting your DH on board to help with the stiff neck . Really hope this month is good news for you. How's the weight loss going? I'm jealous as am feeling fat having manged to get up the duff when I was at the heaviest I've been in years...

Bucky Madoldbird JollyBear RFN2&3 (will you name change now they're here? And can't wait to hear what you've called your LOs ) GorgonsGin PicknMix waves hello and hope you're all doing well.

Things fine with me though (big time TMI alert!) had some extremely light brown spotting after sex the other night. And of course was totally freaked out, though my books and google confirm that it's pretty common after sex and not something to worry about unless there's lots of it or cramping or whatever. And the scan at 10.5 weeks was perfect, so I doubt it's anything to worry about. Still, it's kind of put me off sex for the time being (poor old DH).

okiwi sorry to hear you're feeling low. Do rant away here if it helps.

caitni I was thinking homebirth till I actually did a tour of the labour ward and thought perhaps for my first it would be a good idea to be somewhere with easy access to a variety of pain relief. Just in case. The labour ward midwives when I gave birth to A were all absolutely fantastic. Dead keen on avoiding bringing the doctors in. Which was good. I'd say the birthing centre sounds like a fab compromise. But go have a little look and see what you think!

Another thing to think about re: homebirths is whether you think you'll be really noisy. I was a screamer and was glad I didn't have to tone it down for the sake of the neighbours.

Still dunno re: testing. So bloody expensive. I really don't feel PG anyway. Cramps are all lower back related rather than twingey womb related. Might just wait another week.

I seriously considered HB too, Caitni, and my independent midwives are happy for me to birth at home if I want. What has swung it for me is that although risks of something going wrong are very small (and things go wrong at the hospital too), I could not cope with wondering whether things might not have gone so badly if I had been at the hospital. It's a tiny risk, as I say, but one I couldn't bring myself to take even though I trust my MW.

Anyway I guess the important thing is that you give birth wherever you are most comfortable, and you have bags of time to decide where that is. If the hospital are not supportive and you want to go that way I can put you in touch with the independent midwives who I am using. But do check out the birth centre - there are some details on t'interweb here and I am reliably informed that the rooms have very nice bathrooms (a fact which I liked after experiencing them in other hospitals...).

Hope everyone is well. I don't work Fridays so am spending the day with DD, who needs a bath badly, so will be back later. Perhaps with a new name after reading the DM thread...

Hi all x
sorry I havent posted for a while been kinda busy lol

Caitni so glad you enjoyed your scan, its great seeing them x Can understand why you want a homebirth ( I was going to until we found out it was twins)

Mrshappy Glad they spotted the anemia and that the iron tablets are working, its hard enough being pregnant with a toddler without the extra tiredness lol

HI to everyone else sorry for not doing individual posts but havent got time

Well Sophie May and Adam Edward are doing well and are actually very laid back and easy going.
I am feeling so well that I have to remind myself I only gave birth 10 days ago lol

Nothing new here I'm afraid but thought I would check in. Signed IVF funding forms last week so just waiting for name to come up. I am having a nightmare with the admin though. Hammersmith have lost DPs blood test results about a million times and now St Albans are ready to kill me...and I quote 'you are not our only patient you know!'.

The bench possee appear to have absconded! We are all a bit peed off methinks...fed up of the wait!!

Hope you are all doing ok. We need a catch up soon.

Bucky xx

Meant to say how nice it is to see all our new ladies too.

Morning ladies

Bucky sorry to hear that the Hammersmith are being so annoying losing test results etc. They sound pretty rubbish on the administrative side, which just adds to the stress. Nightmare! Hopefully you'll be pregnant before too long and all of this will be a distant memory

DigiGirl so...did you test??

RFN2&3 such beautiful names!! I love them and I'm glad to hear the twins are being so laid back - you also sound very laid back for a mum of three . How's your DS1 taking to being an older brother?

MrsH know what you mean about the risks - all things to ponder - but your midwives sound so good to have said that a home birth is an option for you. The birth centre does look great - is that where you're booked in?

Okiwi hope you're feeling a bit better

Ei hope things are good with you - have you ovulated yet? Am so hoping you catch the egg this month [fingers crossed emoticon]

PnM hope you're off enjoying the sunny weather - it's so roasting on the tube that I was missing the south coast this morning...especially as a colleague took today off to cycle to Brighton!

MOB hope things are going with with you too

Waves to Lizbaz Jollybear GorgonsGin

Not much new with me. Am 12 weeks today and just waiting for my booking in app (this Sunday) and my 13 week scan (a week today). Otherwise just wishing I was off work to soak up all this lovely sun...

Hi guys,

Just a quick message to say hi and apologise for not being around much.

Will try and catch up a bit better tonight when I have more time....

PnM x

Ok, back now with a bit more time!

Congrats on reaching the 12 wk milestone Caitni - bet you're counting down the days until the scan (only 6 more sleeps!). How are you feeling? Hope the sickness is on the wane now?

How's the courgette doing MrsH? Yay for iron pills! Is DD getting excited about the courgettes arrival?

JB can I just reiterate that of course we don't mind that you post here - in fact, would be very if you didn't! Its lovely to hear about Jollycubs progress and you always give good advice!

Where are my lovely ladies on the bench?!! We all seem to have done a disappearing act....

Hope you're ok EI? Ov already occurred? Hope the stiff neck has sorted itself out now?

Boooo to the rubbish PCT Bucky! Have you sorted it out yet? Have you located your DH's test results yet?

Okiwi sorry to hear you're feeling down, I'm just trying to drag myself out of that place at the mo as well - its tough, isn't it? Do vent or rant as much as you want on here, it's what we're here for.

Lizbaz sorry to hear about af, and also hope your grandmother is ok? Its great to hear that you're feeling more positive re IVF, it can sometimes help just feeling like there's something being done to get you nearer to your baby goal, even if its just being put on the waiting list.

How are you doing GG? I was going to see if any of you were around in London at the weekend but the day was literally jam packed with 5 year old activities (ok, so secretly I quite enjoyed them as well!). Hope you're ok x

Lovely lovely names R4N2+3 - so great hear that all is going smoothly for you at the moment. Did you say your mum is going in for an op around now? Hope thats all ok as well.

How are the boys doing MOB? Hope they're settling down as well - very cute photos on FB! (Have I said that already?! Probably but that just means they're doubly cute )

I apologise for not being around much. I went into a bit of a freefall after I heard about my sister. You're all right - she is fairly insensitive. Its not that she's malicious, she's just not very socially aware. She has said some pretty hurtful things to me in the past few days and I'm growing an incredibly thick skin, but I am also getting ridiculously stubborn and childish i.e. I can't really be bothered with TTC as it just feels like it doesn't matter anymore. Which I appreciate makes nosense whatsoever.

I genuinely don't know how I'm going to cope over the next few months - so much so that DH and I have been talking about moving away (she currently lives 3 miles away).

I'm in a bit of a ranty mood tonight so I'll cut it short before I start telling you all about my lack of car, my crappy job and my totally negative attitude to everything!

(I am sane really, I promise)

Picknmix you do sound sane to me, and I can completely understand how you feel - especially the not wanting to TTC anymore. I think I veered from obsessing about my CM and plotting what to do next to make things happen to deciding to give it up as a bad lot on a near daily basis! Anyway, I hope you are your DH are ok. Can you have a word with your sister and tell her to lay off the baby talk for a bit? Tell her you are excited for her but that it is just too much to be listening to it all the time...

Hope everyone is well. I am 31 weeks tomorrow (sorry, PNM, now here I go with the baby talk ...) and so things are getting close. Hopefully she'll stay put until at least her due date because I need to keep working as long as I can. Or to win Euromillions, that would do too . Then there would be the MrsH IVF scholarship for any of you who want it!

Hi all,

Sorry I've not been around much - nothing to report, really (and my DH's 40th birthday party on Saturday to organize on top of (allegedly) work etc. - feeling just a little overwhelmed at the moment!). Really sorry, PicknMix that you're feeling a bit low - totally understandable, must feel a bit much at the moment. I'm lucky that my sister is as sensitive as she can be, but I felt really bereft after she left after a short visit with my nephew, whom I'd cuddled and fed a lot (sounds a bit pathological - I didn't get any ideas he was mine, don't worry, and am fine now, but did feel a pang!).

My grandmother is ok, although it wasn't the best visit ever - wanted to get her out of the house but going anywhere is a problem as she's less and less mobile, and trying to go to the seaside in Cornwall in the summer was logistically a bit of a nightmare, with hordes of people and no parking. I even managed to make her carsick! Great... Oh well, lesson learnt! Hopefully on balance she was glad I was there!

Anyway, really have to get on with cleaning house prior to party before I slope into work at some disgraceful hour! All the best to everyone (and especially to Okiwi - it's god awful this whole business but we're here if and when you need us). xx

hi guys,
thanks for thinking of me it really makes a difference to know there are people out there who understand how i feel. pick'n'mix - i agree totally with you about feeling like giving up, though it's not really even giving up, it's almost like a rebellion against those who are pg/have babies. i can't really explain it, only that i sort of feel some days like i want to think of the things my friends with kids can't do and then rub their faces in the fact that i can do those things. even though i'd swap places with them in a heartbeat because i don't really want to be going out getting pissed til all hours or going away for a weekend at the drop of a hat but i'm going to try and make them jealous of me instead of the other way round. god it sounds awful written out like that doesn't it?

Its very quiet here . Are you all ok.

I'm still waiting for my letter...ladedadeda..., so nothing to report really. I go on hols next Thursday to Miami for my girls week away.

I'm in contact with GG regularly, she said it was ok to let you all know that she is having a total nightmare . I'll let her give you the details but she is having a very hard time at the moment shifting an ectopic pregnancy . Her levels are still going up even after intervention . I really wish I could do something to sort it out for her.

Anyway, hope you are all doing ok and my cyber neices and nephews, born and unborn are all fine. xx

hi ladies

its mighty quiet in here recently
bucky hope you are well sorry to hear GG is having a nightmare time of it hope things are ok for her xx

hello to everyone else
nowt to report here

xx ei xx