Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul.

[MumOfBaby]

Hi all.

Needing some extra support this time round as have just had a MC. We are trying again straight away. But I've a feeling it's going to take ages. Got pregnant first month trying last 2 times. I have 1 DC- 11 months.

I want some people to join this thread who are ready to hold hands and help each other through the TTC.

Good luck to all.

welcome barrenbrook sorry you are here but glad you are here. lots of tips on cycles here - meita is a veritable font of ovulation cycle knowledge so theres always chat about who is where when. I have added you to our list
Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD29
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD22
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD22
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD22
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD17
Barrenbrook TTC#? UCL28 cycle 4 CD17
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+15
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD14
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD12
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD3
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD1
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD1

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August

waiting know how you feel, dh is pressing for us to see SIL - its her birthday soon but although its petty I am horribly jealous she is pg and my tactless BIL is bound to say something like 'you guys should get a move on if you don't want too big an age gap' and if he does I will feel compelled to say 'I HAD A MISCARRIAGE LAST MONTH IF YOU MUST KNOW' just to make him feel horrible about it - although he is so tactless he might follow up with something like 'oh, maybe youve left it abit late in the day' at which point I will just want to kill him .... sigh, its not easy to be grown up this stuff.

boodle glad ypou stopped in - have been spying on you on your grads thread and seems like there is a good little 'posse of paranoids' ready to join when we get there - nice to see Helpet has found you as she is on another TTC post mc thread and we are trying to persuade Monkeys from that same thread who is pg to join (TFLS and I have been shamelessly promoting your thread ) benefits us all to have a community and support network

right time to work out and get some of the pizza shed that I had for lunch - it felt worth it at the time but not so much now. roll on CD 4

Hi everyone,

After throwing my toys out of the cot the other night, I have been busy with the children I actually have!!

Anyway, i am following Meita in the mystery of the lost AF post mc. It is a long and rambling story. Punctuated by peeing on sticks.

Meita, I know you have recently had a breakthrough in this area but I am still confused because I am not sure I will ever ovulate again.

Recap:
ERPC: 38 days ago.

Always a 28 day girl. Never changed.

I have had spotting since day 28 after ERPC til now, day 38. But no AF (and BFN).

Very down. How is it possible not even to be able to state CD?? I really am trying to see the sunny unlands, but I seem to be staring at mud.

Also, sometimes I just lurk on the Feb 10 bus. When lost bean was due. NOT healthy.

Tomorrow I will try to be fabulously upbeat. Er, weather permitting.

apples I don't have much time, as getting ready to fly back home - but let me just say this: you will ovulate again. I promise!

Perhaps you already have and are in the 2ww without knowing it?

You should definitely not lurk on Feb-bus!

I found www.pregnancyloss.com useful for info on weird cycles post MC. Maybe that would help clear some things up for you, too?

Good luck and !

apples stay away from the feb bus - i have had to stop myself going back to the march bus to see whats going on but its just not healthy and wont help you at all. must look forward. maybe you should jump on the list at CD38 - meita went up to CD45 before hitting the bottom again but might feel like you are making some headway then?

congrats to meita and waiting you are no longer on day 1

Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD30
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD23
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD23
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD23
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD18
Barrenbrook TTC#? UCL28 cycle 4 CD18
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+16
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD15
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD13
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD4
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD2
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD2

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August

Hey Ladies,
Typed a big long rambling message to you all last night, then power went out, and my computer went offline - ARGH!

To sum it up - BIG CONGRATS to boodle and stressy, enjoy your BFPs - you worked hard (and hopefully had some fun along the way) to get them!

apples and tfls - I can relate to the frustration. Went to a work picnic yesterday and saw everyone's lovely DC and a few preggos too. When I got AF earlier this mo. I cried lots and looked at my healthy 8w scan pic - which was not healthy for me.

Now I'm on cd16 4 cycles post-mc and NOT OVULATING! Have not ovulated since mmc which is not normal to be sure! (started new threads to see if anyone has answers)

How in the hell am I supposed to fall pg! [extremely impatient] So now I need to wait until my next cycle starts to take progesterone, and if that doesn't work - more tests to follow. I'm really worried something's wrong w/ my ovaries or eggs!

Well, to quell my fears and end on a more + note - here's to you ladies, graduates, BFPs for all, BD, OV, and all that's right and good in the world! [raises glass and takes a drink...and another]

Just checking in to say "hi" ladies. Sorry AF got you Meita, Cheepz, Zajay and waiting - sending lots of baby dust to you all.

I'm staying true to form and stressing about everything so those of you looking back through the thread please ignore my earlier promises of being laid back and calm about everything - I was clearly lying!!!

I defo recommend not lurking on buses - I can't even look at old scan pic yet. I'm not lurking on buses for this pg either yet - WAY to paranoid.

Hoping to see you all on the Totally's Grads thread v. v. v. soon. Looks like chamois Becky, trixle and em will be testing soon - fingers and toes crossed. xxx

Cheepz, thanks for the welcome and for adding me to the list. We're TTC #1, I'm 34 and DH is 40 (oldies!)

Congrats to all of you who have graduated and all the luck in the world to the rest of us yet to graduate xxx

Barrenbrook - I feel really bad that I didn't welcome you yesterday - I was not showing my prettiest side! Anyway, sorry you're here but it's lovely to have you. I've found it really good to hear from people that know what it's like.

I've decided to be more positive too zayja - I'm raising my glass right back at you!

Cheepz - sorry about the SIL/ BIL... can't think of anything smart to suggest you say... perhaps avoidance is the best policy!

Sleep well

x

Hi all, have put myself on list at day 38.

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 CD38
Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD30
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD23
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD23
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD23
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD18
Barrenbrook TTC#? UCL28 cycle 4 CD18
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+16
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD15
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD13
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD4
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD2
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD2

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August

barrenbrook at 37 I got 4 yrs on you!!

apples good for you - onwards and upwards

SIl BIL situation resolved - we are not going until late Sept - now if i can just get knocked up before then it will all be fine! Busy month for me and dh - pressures on!

Hi barrenbrook, sorry to hear about your MC. But glad all the same it turned out NOT to be molar. That would have been most horrible! I can't imagine having to wait a year or more just to TTC after MC. I'm 33 and a half and also TTC #1, so about the same. I'm glad you found your way here - lots of support from the lovely ladies!

Zayja that s when computers crash on you. Sorry to hear your distress. Still, I wonder, how do you know for sure that you are not ovulating? Are you using ovulation tests? One of my friends who knows for sure that she ovulates, NEVER got a positive on those. They are fickle things, they are!
I've also heard ambiguous info on using progesterone. Maybe you should talk to a specialist? Anyway, maybe all will be clear in the most positive way possible in another 2 or 3 weeks... fingers crossed for you.

stressy I am very much hoping to join you on totally's thread soon (that is, in a month or so). Along with everyone else here By then you will be all relaxed and nearing the end of your first trimester, whilst we new graduates will be all panicky and worried

waiting there are some distinct advantages to having AF visiting. She always brings great wine! Cheers!

cheepz try to relax a bit! Don't let the pressure get to you. It's only in your mind, you know? Does it really matter if you get pg this month or only next?
Though, it's always easy to give advice, but much harder to follow it, isn't it? I am sooo planning to get down to serious BD business on all the right days this cycle. I guess I should take some of my own advice...

ladies

my first persona day of the month tomorrow so back into poas 8 times a month and taking of temp etc - have not done the temp thing before but inspired by meita to give it a go - now just have to remember!

zayja hope you are doing ok and frustration is not wearing you down

apples any change? its a tough place you are in

stressy and other grads who are dropping in please keep doing so and don't worry about posting about your anxieties about being pg as being insensitive to those of us still ttc - we are all rooting for you and it does us good to hear how things are progressing - we are all going to be in the same boat at some stage and we are all friends here

here is updated list for friday

by the way - does anyone have a clue where trixel has got to?

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 CD39
Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD31
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD24
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD24
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD24
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD19
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD19
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+18
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD16
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD14
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD5
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD3
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD3

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August

I'm back .

For those of you who hadn't realised I'd been gone, DH, DS and I went down to Cornwall for 5 days - it rained the entire time.

Welcome barrenbrook .

Okay, normal service from me will resume tomorrow. Just got back so tired (absolutely insane traffic) and aware that DS is going to wake us up at 5am tomorrow - besides DH is after more sex .

I wish I'd either just get a BFP or have AF visit me. The waiting is killing me and it seems DH - he wants me to do a test first thing tomorrow. I might sleep on it.

oooh glad you are back mrsR was wondering where ye be...

still no AF is very good. fingers crossed for tomorr morning....

i am doing ok, an official knicker checker which is a dubious luxury of being PG. Midwife next week to get early scan. really trying to be optimistic tho to make sure it is onlly positive vibes that the little bean is getting from me...

i'm booked in {ha} for some sex with DH tonight....doesn't he realise that his job is done now and just to BACK OFFFFFF

happy bonking

xx

Mrs R - welcome home

Didn't know that you were in testing window - have we got your cd wrong on the list - would have been big upping and whoop whooping if there was iminent testing!

boodle make sure you update us the minute your scan results are in - well we can maybe wait til after the grads thread but right after that x

Hello to Cheeps, Meita and Fatlady - thanks for all of your advice. Sorry I haven't been back for a few days. I'm going to go on the website you suggested, and try to understand all of this a little better! The bleeding is still here, but getting lighter. Really not sure what it was - am now thinking my cycle might be messed up because I've been traveling long haul recently - that can mess up your periods sometimes can't it?
Fatlady - no, I haven't MC'd before.

Same as some others on here - pretty much all of my friends now have babies, and the rest are pg. It's awful spending some many years NOT wanting to be pregnant, then when you do, it's so hard!

tigerbear, IKWYM! I've been thinking lots lately - why didn't I TTC earlier? I'm now nearly 34 and can hardly remember what I've been doing that was so much fun I didn't want DC sooner.

Welcome barrenbrook and tigerbear, sorry I didn't say that earlier, and I hope you both find some support and good advice as I have here.

I guess I'm a little scared right now because not only did I not imagine I'd ever have a mc, but certainly didn't think I'd be experiencing fertility/ovulation problems. Here's the scoop Meita - I've been using OPKs since TTC June '08 or so. I always got a +OPK cd14 & 15 (maybe missed once). Anyway, have been using the same brand and the test line seems to show a slight surge around that time but no +.

I also have been inspired to temp cheepz, but that's brought new worries. I haven't had a temp surge either. I'm on cd17 and my BBT was 96.8 this morn. I haven't had one above 97.1 yet. Of course I started internet researching, and found that is a symptom for people with hypothyroidism. Now I'm worried something's wrong with me, my thyroid, pituitary gland, eggs, ovaries, uterus etc. and I won't get PG.

The only thing I hold on to is that I was PG this year for 3 mos., so fingers crossed. But now my body is acting up on me and so frustration IS wearing me down cheepz.

So here's what the current plan is. My OB/GYN has recommended progesterone pills for me to take cd 1-10. She said it's like a "reset" button for your cycle. Since our conversation, I've been researching on it, and it seems to me that prog is normally used in women that don't menstruate - but my cycle's regular. Also meita, I've seen lots of sketchy info. on this. Most women get a second short period after their first and then are confused about OV.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on about this - I'm in a peculiar situation and need your input. Do I get a second opinion, ask for blood tests before taking prog, seek out a specialist or just trust my doc (she did go to school for this after all)? DH likes to remind me I'm not a doctor.

In the meantime, I'm very emotional and cry often so am relating to your posts waiting, chamois and apples. I have a cousin who had thyroid problems, needed IVF to conceive (and ended up with triplets!!!) Anyway, when she was ttc and very down I heard reports from family that all she did was lay on the couch watching TLC "Bringing Home Baby" shows and crying. I thought - what a pity! Now what do you suppose I was doing this morning?

Well, glad you're back Mrs.R, we need some of your humorous antics 'round here - and a few more BFPs wouldn't be too bad either!

BTW, have just realized temps are not the same across the pond so my BBT is consistently around 36 - 36.2 if this helps you ...to help me

Morning ladies, thank you all again for your welcomes, you all seem such a lovely bunch and it's reassuring (sadly) that m/c happens to so many of us

MrsRigby Did you test??? Sending lucky vibes your way

Zayja I didn't want to read and run, I'm sure there are ladies on here that are far more knowledgable than me. The only thing I would say is that sometimes the internet can be a dangerous thing, it comes up with all sorts of suggestions of what you may or may not have (I've done it myself and got myself into quite a panic!) I say I'd go with the advice of your Dr for now and see how that goes, after all, like your DH says they did go to school for it. Fingers crossed it has the required results!

I've attempted to update the list, I dunno if I've done it right though

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 CD41
Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD33
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD26
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD26
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD26
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD21
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD21
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+18
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD18
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD16
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD7
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD5
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD5
GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August

Zayja, you must be distraught. I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.
Unlike you, I always just knew I was going to have trouble conceiving - but very much like you, I never thought beyond that, never thought I might MC. And yet here we all are.

Ok let me start with the cautious part. I encountered several women who conceived naturally, MCed, and then for some reason or other couldn't conceive again and ended up going through IVF (They are all now pregnant or have had a baby already.)
But this is not very common. Those women had been TTC for a long time before they conceived, and it was later discovered that their partners' sperm quality was not good and that was most likely also the reason why they MCed.
Now to the more optimistic part. If indeed you have hypothyroidism, this can be treated. Many women with such conditions have become pregnant, and it doesn't necessarily take IVF. There are in fact specialist forums for women with hypothyroidism who are TTC. If you think you might have hypothyroidism, you should definitely talk to your Gyn/Ob about this, tell her of your symptoms, your basal temps, and your suspicion. She will be able to confirm, or reassure you, quite easily (perhaps she will refer you to an endocrinologist). And if it turns out that you do have such a condition, you at least know what's up and there is something you can do about it!
I always thought I'd have thyroid related problems in conceiving as my mum has a thyroid condition which runs in families. So far my fears have been unfounded (fingers crossed!).
Anyway, in such a situation it helps knowing your body and your cycle. Take chart print-outs to the meetings with your doctor(s), it will help them pinpoint the problem, enabling them to find an appropriate solution faster - rather than following the usual, quite common, trial-and-error proceeding. Tell your doc that you are sceptical about the progesterone, as you are menstruating regularly, and ask if there isn't an alternative that is specifically for supporting ovulation. Or they might convince you that progesterone is indeed the right way to go right now.
Also, how long have you been temp-ing? I'm asking because it could be possible that you have started to ovulate later than usually. If you ovulated around CD20, would you still have caught it with the OPK? Maybe you did ovulate but missed it because you expected it to happen earlier. Just a thought. (If that were indeed the case, and your cycles were still the same length, you'd have a different set of worries: You'd be having a very short luteal phase. But it would be important knowing this because then the cause for your TTC difficulty would be different and would accordingly need different treatment.)

Over all, I'd say yes, trust your doctor. But do tell them about your hypothyroidism-suspicion and insist that they take it seriously. (Being emotional and depressive is also a symptom of thyroid conditions, btw.). And don't jump to quick conclusions. There are so many things that need to be right in order to conceive. Charting your temps and CM can help you understand which one isn't working properly, and help you and your doctor find the appropriate response and plan of action.

I'm wishing you the best of luck and sending you lots of cheerful thoughts. Take care. And turn off that telly!

One final note: I've talked to several people who had problems in conceiving. They all said they wished they had gone to see a specialist earlier.
On the other hand, they all said once you're in the "system", it's very hard to get out of it again.

tigerbear i used to travel long haul alot and that did mess with my cycles, the rest of the time - when not travelling am very regular so that could have an impact

zayja {{{{{big hug}}}} switch channels immediately! I think if you have any doubts at all about what your doctor is telling you then see a specialist - you don't want to mess with your system if its the wrong thing to do and could end up making things worse / take longer because its not what your body really needs.

I know what you mean about wondering why you didn't start sooner but its easy with hindsight - if its any consolation I had my ds at 35 and am now 37, I have a couple of friends who have recently had or who are preganant in their 40's so age is not necessarily a factor. MCs happen frequently to women in their twenties so not necessarily age related.

Try and find some other project to focus on - you must try not to spend all your time thinking about ttc, have you got something around your house that needs doing, have you had a hobby or sport you have wanted to learn, do - you have to find other things to focus on - i have developed a shopping habit - not ideal but have been sorting stuff out around the house as well and not putting stuff off until after the baby I was planning at work for example.

Be strong.

ps barrenbrook good effort but you have moved us all 2 days forward so that will be tomorrows list - wishful thinking perhaps that time would go faster!!

Oops! I'm such a ditz. Sorry....! It must be cos mine's a day out, again, apologies.. (bows head in shame)

This should be right now

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 CD40
Chamois TTC#1 UCL ? cycle ? CD32
becky78 TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD27
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD26
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD25
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD20
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD21
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL ? cycle 1 CD?+18
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 4 CD17
VivCliquot TTC#1 UCL? cycle 1 CD15
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 27-28 cycle 1 CD6
Waiting TTC#1 UCL 26-33 cycle 1 CD4
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-34 cycle 1 CD4
GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
leewt
boodleboot BFP 21st August
Stressy BFP 22nd August