TTC - Clomid Thread

[MamaMaiasaura]

Hi just wondered if people ttc on Clomid wanted to join this thread unless i have been stupid and missed one.

We are due to fertility clinic on 22nd and expect to go on clomid again.

We have 2 dc. Ds1 is nearly 9 and was concieved without fertility help. THis was a big surprise as have PCOS and was told would never conceive naturally.

Ds2 was conceived after 1 course of clomid 50mg. My day 21 test was awful and still no period after 45ish day. Was put on progesterone to induce bleed. Didnt happen as was pregnant.

Was also on metformin but not currently, waiting for all clear next week. I have dodgy lft generally on medication and also bfing.

Ds2 is 1 now and still breastfeeding. Hoping this will not hinder any treatment as really want to continue this too. I am now 33 so fertility decreasing too.

I dont have a cd currently as all up the shoot so waiting to see what happens really.

Hi Clure
I'm hoping thats the case but will have to wait till monday to see the gynecologist, the GP seems a bit fed up with all my questions, think he will be glad to see the back of me lol

Thanks for all your support girls, dont know what I would do without you

XXX

Hellooooo,

Stac14 I'd deffo say it was too early for bloods. I know my ov was delayed by 2/3 days so there's a strong possibility that yours was later too but even if you ov's day 14 it was still too early on day 17. Good Luck for Monday hun, knock 'em dead with your questions lol. A list would def be a great idea. i always forget to do that.

Mummycat1 the greapfruit juice is to help get lots of EWCM for ov. That's the good mucus you need. Sorry if you knew that, I get used to using loads of abrevairions and forget some people don't know what they are lol. There are loads of things to try for EWCM as it can sometimes dry up when you're on clomid. Any questions feel free to ask, I dont know the answer half the time mind lol.

Clure you're still waiting to start the clomid aren't you? Lets hope you dont have to wait too long hun.

God I'm bloody tired again, was in bed for 9pm lastnight, what a joke. I'm off work tomorrow as DS has a hospital appt in the morning. So I dare say I'll be on and off here all day, ooh how naughty of me.

XXX

Hi everyone, can I join you ladies...I'm new on MN and am finding lots of helpful threads and everyone's support for each other is lovely.
Hubby n I have been TTC for 2yrs, on CD10 so hopefully will be doing lots of BD!!
Anyone got some advice for me on any of the following....
I have found that the gyna cons at my hospital have been less that helpful. Was given clomid 50mg and have just taken my 7th and last month of tablets...no joy
I'm not sure if this is common practice but I haven't heard a peep from my gnya to check whether I have been given correct dosage of clomid, whether is it doing anything positive!! Only had bloods and scan in 1st month n then nothing.Sorry for long thread girls...also since being on clomis my periods have been a bit strange...cycle is very regular 28 - 30 days but I spot on the day1 and then nothing til Day4, this has happened for a few sycles, I don't know what this might mean...anyone had anything similar??

PS Sorry again for a VEEEERRRY long thread

Hi Tish
Welcome to the thread.
I have only had one lot of clomid but my gp did bloods on cd10 and cd17 although I think I went too early. Most of the threads I have read on here have suggested that the doc or gyne either scan or do bloods within the time you are on clomid to see if the dose is working for you, worth phoning the gp or gyne for a bit of advice.

Alfiemax Thanks for the encouragement, heres hoping the gyne is more supportive than the gp lol hope ds gets on ok at the docs, I am studying tomorrow so no doubt I will be on and off this all day so let me know how the wee yin gets on.

XXX

Hello Tish, it sounds like you haven't been very well supported or monitored. My experience is that on month 1 I had a scan on CD12. My eggs were large but hadn't popped out yet so I went back on CD14 and had another scan. Eggs still hadn't released and were big enough to go, so I was given an injection which released all eggs. I had bloods done on CD21.

On subsequent months I have a scan on CD13 and then a shot and then bloods on CD21.

Before I started the drugs this time, I had to have a dye test which was unsuccesful so I had a laproscopy to check that my tubes and ovaries were ok.

I feel for you - you should have been seen and monitored much more in my opinion.

Alfiemax - thanks for the grapefruit juice advice. How long before CD14 should I drink it? What are your other tips? I'll take any ideas on board - not that getting to the shops is that easy today with the snow!
Perhaps a snow day will give you a chance to have a rest tho

TishB

Unfortunately it is fair to say that some NHS units (I presume this is NHS) are far better than others. I would go back to your GP and ask to be referred to another unit.

No monitoring whilst on clomid is a no-no as you have no way of knowing whether its doing what its supposed to. Another potential problem is that clomid should be given to PCOS patients with a degree of caution anyway as clomid resistance can happen. It is certainly not suitable for all PCOS patients to take.

Hi mummycat

(((((mummycat)))))))

Think you have been through the wringer to date as well.

www.verity-pcos.org.uk is a useful website for PCOS patients as it has lots of information on it.

Am glad to read you are being closely monitored - not all people are as fortunate to get as thorough treatment.

What are they planning next in the event that this does not work?. If they haven't said anything I'd start asking questions.

I take it the injection you're having is one of the injectible type drugs.

I note as well you've had previous surgery/
Did they not consider doing laparoscopic ovarian diathermy instead rather than a laparoscopy?. I ask that as a lap is mainly used for diagnostic purposes and diathermy can be more beneficial for PCOS patients. In this procedure the cystic follicles are punctured and thus hopefully kickstart ovulation.

Did they have problems re the HSG? (tubal x-ray).

Sorry for all the questions

Good luck with your treatment

Attila

Attila I think I'm lucky to have such good treatment and close monitoring. I'm at the beginning of third try with Clomid, but had instant success before in 2005 when I fell pregnant with my dd. We thought Clomid was a miracle drug, but it's taking longer this time and I'm needing the injections - it's a drug which releases the eggs, but it releases all of them so there is a chance of multiple pregnancy.

I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2005, since then all the tests I have had have come back as normal! I do not have any symptoms other than the irregular cycle.

The lap was annoying, but I feel lucky that things were investigated.

Feeling really positive at the mo - I'm glad I've found this thread - it really helps

Awen my af went missing for 5 months a few years ago. I felt really desperate so feel for you. I went on the Carol Vorderman detox diet and that did the trick. It is a hard diet to stick to at first, but after a couple of weeks I was loving it and losing loads of weight too. Although I was unable to conceive naturally, it was an immense relief to see af again!

Hiya Ladies,

Welcome TishB, sorry you're having a crap time with your doctors. They should have at leat had a consultation with you at some point while you are on clomid. I haven't got scans or blood but will be seeing the cons halfway through to check how things are going. Good Luck chick, it's lovely in here and everyone does seem really supportive.

Mummycat1 there are loads of things to help with EWCM. Grapefruit juice you can drink all the way through your cycle. I find it a bit bitter. But there's also Green Tea which is what I drink and that's really great for EWCM. I normally have 2 cups a day until I ov then I drink loads lol. The twinings one is better than shops own and the one with orange is nice and there's one with grapefruit and pineapple too. All delicious and deffo do the trick. You could also try a cough medicine called robatussin but I dont like the ides of taking medicine when not needed. Then there's preseed which you can buy from www.accessdiagnostics.co.uk or also on ebay. But the first website does free postage too. Some people also use evening primrose oil, but that should only be used up until ov and can take a few cycles to really work. Phew I didn't realise there were so many ways lol. There are probably more. I have heard of raw egg white as well but ewww! How are you anyway hun? Good I hope.

Awen, Attila, Clure, Brandybaby and Stac14 hope you are all ok too.

Well DS appt was strange. He has had a 'mole' on his pubic bone since he was a baby. It's always been near enough flat and smooth. But the weekend before last he said it had gone funny, so I had a look and it had broken away from the skin around it and was really raised and looks more like how a wart goes. So I took him GP last Monday and the GP referred for urgent removal and testing as he said it looked like it had been bleeding. I have been worrying about it non stop since. But he has his appointment this morning and according the skin doctor it IS just a wart?? I'm confused because up until last weekend it certainly didn't look like a wart, it does now granted but still...... Oh and the GP never said anything about a wart either, in fact he seemed quite concerned. Do I get a second opinion or settle for the fact that this 'specialist' is right?? He advised Wartner if it's bothering DS.

I'm feeling sick and tired again, haha that sounds like I'm saying I'm fed up but I actually mean in the literal sense. I'm not sleeping of a night and every time I eat I feel it's going to come straight back up. I'm not taking this as any signs of a BFP because it happens every single cycle without fail lol. This is why I don't bother symptom spotting. But by the same token it is rather annoying to feel pg every month and not be

Well I'll probably be back later if I haven't collapsed into a sleep induced coma.

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Alfie thanks for the info about EWCM. I'm going for the green tea and grapefruit juice approach. I agree with you about taking unecessary drugs and drink herbal tea every day anyway so will just switch to green! Sounds like you are in the toughest part of the cycle now. It's just such a rollercoaster isn't it? Not symptom spotting is impossible, I think. I have decided that I am going to plan something to take my mind off it when af is due not sure what yet.

Go with your instincts on your son. If you don't feel comfortable with what you've been told then get it checked out again.

I have just realised that my ds probably has slap cheek as she has been poorly now for over a week and has had a red cheek for the last three afternoons!

*I meant dd - still getting used to the lingo

Hi

Stac14 CD23 today then. How exciting, getting near end of 2ww. My blood test last time was really poor for cd21. I was told i'd not ovulated and finally they tried provera to induce bleed. I did ov later though hence ds2 and provera didnt bring on bleed. Just keep the rumpy pumpy till period arrives (and hopefully it wont). Hope the muscle spasms dont cause too much of a problem in that area You are allowed to moan x

mummycat1 Hi Sorry to hear of you past bad relationship and of your miscarraige. I glad clomid was successful first time. I guess it raised expectations that it would work straight away the next time (it has for me as it worked first time with ds2 and hoping for the same which i know doesnt mean it will happen). 3rd round really isnt that far along. My consultant said we are to do 4 rounds before she reviews and can do up to 12, It must be hard having those close to you having conflicting issues going on. I cant tell my best friend we are trying as she lost her baby quite far on and she is finding it so hard. I think the anomynity of this thread is a help in a way as we can say how swe feel without feeling we are overloading our nearest and dearest.
I have PCOS too, and an older boy (hell be 9 next week). You are right about weight affecting period but mine is pretty ok (still have a few baby pounds) but bmi ok so hopefully it should all work a treat.

Alfiemax DP lots better thanks, had a few rough day as ds2 tremp peaked and he wasnt a well baby at all. The symptoms of preg and period are so similar its unfair. It is hard to think of anything but testing but you must resist .. (keeping fingers crossed) I am all bloaty too but pretty sure that it is because i am hopefully going to have a period. Last 'proper one' was the one before i started clomid on Then had ds2 and breastfeeding and PCOS means no periods yet. (And no period pain!) Poor you with ds, sounded worrying but glad it isnt serious.

Clure How long will they leave you before inducing period? That at least will get you started. Only not had period as have 13 month lod baby

Scorpio Hugs!!! Hi baby how exciting to be ttc again!

tishb They should definately be monitoring you and I would have thought they'd have upped the dose. My first round was 50mg, didnt ov as they expected but i ov'd later in cycle. THis time they put me straight on 100mg and are doing scan on cd10 and blood tests cd21 and already taken bloods pre clomid too. Nopt had same experionce on the periods but really think you should be more monitored.

OK, here has been our bunny died either last night or this morning. We are all as he was a lovely bunny, called Bertie and was great fun. My ds1 is very sad.

I am knackered as ds2 been keeping me up all hours.

I will be buying grapefruit juice and will be bonking like mad later in the month. I was advised daily last time and will be doing so again (you reading this dp )

Am off to bed now and will try and pop on. Still no period so still awaiting CD1!

Night girls xxx

Hey Awen
I'm hoping the bloods are too early or I have ovulated later but will find out for defo on Monday. Sorry to hear about bertie your ds must be gutted, is ds2 still ill?

Hi to alfiemax tishb clure attila scorpio brandybaby and anyone else I may have missed hope your all good.
Alfiemax Glad to hear ds is ok and its not too serious but you can't be too careful when it comes to moles especially with kids good your gp is on the ball.

Talk soon Night XXX

hi all
Am going to buy some grapefruit juice too.

Awen so you were given provera, I'm not really familiar with it. Does it just induce period? Also does it do this through hormones? Sorry for million questions. Wondering if they may prescribe this. Does it increase fertility? Think I'm not CD 32 and no sign of period but going on last year they've generally been every 8 weeks somethimes 11 or 12. Gynae appt next week am realy nervous

Stac14 you must be anticipating Monday with a mixture of feelings

mummycat I'm similar to you, i read that you took clomid and got pg first time round and now its taking longer? I got pg first time on clomid and am worried I may have false or high expectations if I'm prescribed it again.

Welcome Tish I wasn't monitored at all but only took one round. Seems a lot of rounds for you to be taking and not monitoring

I don't know what I'll do if they don't give me clomid. Guess its all ifs and buts and a waiting game isn't it ladies? x

Hi Clure
Monday can't come quick enough, at least we will know were we stand and what we have to do.
I dont know if this helps but I was prescribed norethisterone which is progesterone tablets and I think the same as provera to induce a period as I hadn't bled since stopping the pill in April last year, it meant I could take the clomid quicker.

Thank crunchie it's Friday seems as if it has been a very long week lol

XXXX

Stac14 interesting to hear about the progesterone and being able to take the clomid quicker. I guess I hadn't really thought about it but yes you need a period to take clomid!!

Can we have a list of everyone's stats? I'm getting confused

I'm 33 and have DS1 13, DS2 10 and DD 2. I'm CD6 so just taken last pill and going for my scan next Friday which will be CD13.

I have booked it for 8am as it's the earliest they've got. Will then have mad dash to work and might be late. Haven't warned them as I don't want to have to explain. Though I'm sure there's some spec as I had a week off for my lap in nov and have been late a few times for blood tests and scans.

How does everyone else cope with work?

My DD is nagging me to read her CBeebies magazine with her which is what it's all about isn't it so must dash for now...

Evening All (In my best bobby voice),

Hope everyone is ok. I'm bloody freeeeezing. It hasn't snowed today and is melting nicley but I'm sure it's colder than it has been all week.

Stac14 only a couple of days now till your appointment, are you getting butterflies yet? I always do before an appt.

I keep forgetting where everyone is at in their cycle. But it is getting lovely and busy in here now. It's so nice as we are all at different stages with different reasons for clomid.

As for my stats. I'm 29. DD 11 and DS 9. CD21 of a ?? cycle and on first cycle of clomid.

Feeling a bit livlier today but maybe that's because I went to work and that's kept me awake lol. Still got a tight belly, it's quite irritating actually because it feels like I need a big poo. I'm not going to say TMI as I know this thread should be free of TMI. Also free of anyone saying sorry for moaning, griping or feeling jealous of pg people everywhere. It's only natural to feel this way and it's what we're all here for to support each through our tough times.

XXX

Hey Alfiemax

I am pretty nervous, but have the girls up for a gossip tomorrow night so it should keep me occupied for a wee while lol. I have been feeling quite crampy too, not sure if its period pain or what, weird. Anyone else experienced this?

stats are - I'm 29, DS 9, Step DS 10, CD24 on first cycle of clomid, have gynecologist on Monday for first proper appointment, think that covers everything lol

Hows things with everyone else?

XXX

Hi all, sorry its been a while. Last Clomid cycle was 31 days (bfn) and i'm now on cd17, i feel awful - stomach pains, nausea, headaches. Think i've ov today as had a little ewcm so fingers crossed. Last cycle i had sore boobs all the way through the 2ww so am expecting similar again. The Clomid makes me so moody and down, poor dp. I had a hsg which looks fine and have just been given metoforin (don't even know what thats for!) Have got to see my consultant end of april seems ages away.

Hiya
stats are I'm 41, have DD 4, (had clomid and it worked first time) am cd 32 periods disappeared got gynae apt in a week and a half hoping to get clomid again!

sympathies to those of you with unpleasant clomid side effects

Stats. 33 - ds1 (8) & ds2(13 months). Have taken provera on day 5 post provera waiting for period. Not shown up yet and starting to get all sorts of strange ideas that i might need to do a test.

Also i thought i'd link my old threads from last time i was on clomid as it shows a real long cycle with crappy cd21's and i ended up with a bfp (ds2) so a postive thread

Also its got me wondering as i took provera before bfp to induce period as didnt think i'd ovd then...

my BFP thread

old clomid thread some helpful stuff on there too

ds2 much better thanks

Hiya Ladies,

Mensa Sorry you got your period hun ((((HUGS)))), I wish you all the luck in the world for this cycle.

Stac Good Luck for tomoorow if I don't speak to you before. Make sure you come on straight away and let us know how you get on.

Awen Glad your little boy is much better now. Are you getting any sleep now? Hope so.

Hello all to Attila, Clure, Brandybaby, TishB and Mummycat1, hope you are all ok.

It's alot quieter on here of a weekend isn't it.

Well Ladies, I'm going to sound really bloody stupid if I'm wrong now but I think I may be pg. I'm CD23 and 9DPO, and I know I shouldn't have but I did a test yesterday, well 3 actually and 2 of them had a very visible line which even DH couldn't deny seeing. I did another today but the line is barely visible. I'm not getting excited as this has happened to me on several occasions closely followed by my period. This is one of the reasons I think I dont have enough progesterone. But anyway my period should not be due yet and normally the lines I get are 2 max before period. Oh I dont know. My tummy still feels like it's bloated and have been getting lots of different cramps that I can't pinpoint to anything. I haven't had any symptoms so to speak that are any different to usual except my boobs aren't as sore as normal. I will keep testing every day now as I'm obsessed and I'll hold my hands up to that. Plus I have about 20 tests left still and it will be a waste if I am pg and I still have loads left.

Please don't think I'm psychotic ladies lol.

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Hello all

Alfie don't think your mad at all!! I would be the same, and as you do have a supply of tests to use up! Fingers crossed for you

Hoping the rest of you are all enjoying the weekend. Am suffering bit of a hangover after a rare night out