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The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

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Bucky2008 · 19/11/2008 08:56

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

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Caitni · 02/02/2009 18:25

Hi ladies,

very quiet on here today - are you all snowed in? .

Had a stay-at-home snow day today - was working from home in the morning anyway, as was supposed to head down to Brighton for the consultant app in the afternoon. Unfortunately, all the trains were canceled so I had to cancel my appointment (apparently so many women canceled that they were planning to cancel the entire clinic anyway!). They're rescheduling so hopefully not too long a wait til I get another appointment. Though am tempted to just get in the system in London instead...what do you ladies think? Should I just find a new GP and ask for a referral straightaway?

Am kind of loving the snow - this is more snow than I've ever seen in London! - though am not looking forward to getting into work tomorrow if it keeps up. It does make everything look so lovely though...

anyway, sorry for the lack of individual hellos - am in the midst of making dinner so just grabbed the laptop off DH to grab some MN time! Hope everyone's well

xxx

MrsHappy · 02/02/2009 20:48

Caitni if I were you I would get a London GP and a referral here. You can always nip to Brighton if they come through first with your appointment, but London might not be bad.

I went to see my GP after my CP for a referral and he referred me to the UCH reproductive medicine people (NHS) using the online choose and book system. The first available appointment was only 3 weeks after I saw the GP which I thought was pretty fab. Not sure if they do IVF but they do investigate and do cycle monitoring and IUI I think. Failing that I think the Homerton has a unit. NHS referrals don't seem to take too long (GG got in quickly IIRC) but then working your way to the top of the list is a bit longer. And you can always do the private bit if need be...

I love the snow too, but have 2 interviews tomorrow. Eeeek!

Higs to all. I hope you all got a snow day too.

mibbes · 02/02/2009 21:07

Hello ladies !

Just a quick post to say that am keeping an eye on you all when time allows. I love the comedy on this thread (Margaret Thatcher hair and welcome mats ).

Bucky have a great time in Miami (am very ). I really hope the clomid does the trick and I'm sure there won't be any Footballer's Wives hermaphrodite baby - did you see that ? And when they fake tanned the baby - hilarious !

MrsH glad to hear you are keeping your sprirts up hun and let's hope that BD was expertly timed...

Caitni booo for rubbish healthcare, hope you get registered elsewhere and get things moving ASAP - it is so bl00dy unfair that some people are made to wait and treated so poorly. Whereas hurray for Ei's new Doc

All going well here, have posted some pics of wee Evan which you may not have seen yet. Some nights we are seriously lacking in sleep but hey my wee man is worth it. Getting lots of smiles now which makes it all so worthwhile .

MrsHappy · 03/02/2009 20:50

Awwww. He's lovely Mibbles

Bucky2008 · 04/02/2009 20:59

Well I am all packed and checked in . How excited am I??? I may explode before I get there.

I had a few funny turns today . Went all light headed and peed lots. Symptoms . I don't think so, you only get symptoms after implantation no? And at CD18 I doubt that has happened yet...but for symptoms sake thought I would report.

Anyway, girlies, I'm offski....Kisses.

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Caitni · 06/02/2009 12:16

Hi ladies

Bucky hope you're enjoying the heat of Miami! It's snowing again in Laaandon (though much lighter than Monday) so talk about the best time to go . Hope you keep getting promising symptoms

Mibbes aaaah, your little man is a total cutie! Glad to hear he's a little smiler too

MrsH good luck for the interviews next week . And thanks for the advice re doctors - have now registered with a new GP so will make an appointment there just as soon as I've been seen by the nurse .

Waves to PnM Ei (hope you're recovered now) MOB (hope the SPD's not too bad) and any lurkers.

I'm quite excited this morning as have just booked in for an initial consultatation at the Lister on Monday morning . They had a cancellation so it was either Monday or the end of Feb. It'll be another SA for DH (as recommended after his first SA), an ultrasound for me (as recommended to me by the radiologist as my next step after my HSG) and a consutltation with a consultant about what to do next [nervous but excited emoticon]. I booked it cos I was suddenly so downhearted at the prospect of waiting weeks/months for an NHS appointment (and my PCT funds only 1 IVF cycle with an 8-12 month waiting list so no way can I wait all that time!). Now it feels the ball is rolling again!

JollyBear · 06/02/2009 12:45

Hello everyone,

Sorry for not posting for a while. I do check in to see how you are all going on but don't get as much time to post .

Ei Great to hear that the ball is rolling for you to see someone.

Bucky Miami! Wowsers! Have a great time and I'll have my fingers crossed that you come back with some good news.

PnM I was very impressed to hear you were being chauffered (sp? - see I can't even spell it, damn!) around . Your new job sounds very glam. Your wait for an appointment is just crazy. Going private sounds like the best option but it is that the NHS is so slow.

MOB Great to hear that you and the chicks are doing well. When are they due again? Sorry my mind has gone

MrsH Hope the interviews went well. Great to hear that your appointment is so soon. I really hope that you won't need it though

Caitni Good news you got a cancellation. It is rubbish that you have to go private. The difference in provision between PCTs is just stooopid.

GG Hello if you're lurking! Hope you'll pop in with some good news before too long.

DD is very well. Like mibbes (hello! )'s little man, she is a real smiler these days. I thought she'd slept through last night but DH was half asleep and told me the wrong time, it was 1.45 not 6.45!

MrsHappy · 09/02/2009 11:03

Hello all, I hope you are well

Bucky are you still in Miami enjoying the sun? I have to say you are missing some of the grimmest weather in ages. I don't mind the snow too much but the rain that has come now is rubbish!

Caitni I hope your Lister consultation went ok and that you found your doctor good and reassuring. Who are you seeing there?

Jollybear it's nice to see you and to hear how well your little girl is doing. Reminds us all to keep our eyes on the prize!

Waves to everyone else.

Well this cycle is proving to be an odd one for me. We may or may not have caught the egg, but even if we did I am now 10dpo and my temp has shot waaaay down and I am having cramps. So, notwithstanding that I normally have a 13 day LP I am starting to think it is all over. I was all pukey on Friday night which made me think maybe something good was afoot but I am not that lucky! And next month DD and I are going on holiday on our own so there will be no bean in March either. Ho hum... Well, at least I don't have to go to work right now. Life could be worse!!!

PicknMix · 09/02/2009 12:33

Hello all,

Apol. for non communication, am currently holed up in bed with acute tonsilitus. Was away with work all last week (had to sit through various meetings feeling like death but pretending I know whats going on - not sure I pulled it off!).

I wonder whats going on with your cycle MrsH? Sounds very strange if your temp has shot down? You have your interviews this week don't you? It must all be pretty stressful for you so I maybe thats causing a bit of havoc with your cycle.

Hope you're having a fab time in Miami Bucky?? I appreciate the pom poms the other day - am def going to have to invest in a satnav for our bambino beans at this rate if they're still shanging out somewhere. Naughty beans.

How have you been Caitni? How did the appt at the Lister go???

Nice to see you Mibbes, your little boy is a cutie . And nice to see you too JB and to hear that DD is doing well!!

How you doing Ei? Is DD's room all decorated now?

I've had the stupidest of weeks - not only have I got this tonsilitus (and the upshot of this is that I've been told by the doc that I shouldn't ttc this cycle due to the anti-b's I'm on. Is nothing ever simple?) but my car was also crashed into whilst stationary and parked outside my house.

The driver had no insurance. Great.

Then whilst we were out there inspecting the damage, another car came flying round the corner (this was when it was snowing) and crashed into the back of the car - double .

So I have spent this week sorting out insurance, a hire care, getting my car fixed. Its been a nightmare.

Good thing we;re not supposed to ttc as not sure I'd have the strength or inclination to anyway!!

PicknMix · 09/02/2009 12:38

Oh, and just spoke to my doctor re the long wait for the fertility clinic and she has recommended that I don't go private as the pct in this area wont share my files with the private practice and they will request that I pay to have all the tests/scans etc again.

I know I have access to my own notes so I don't really understand this.

She said she wont put me on metformin as my blood tests/scans have all come back inconclusive wrt pcos.

She finished up by saying, just be patient and you'll prob be preg by the appt in June anyway.

Errrrr, right. Thanks love.

Caitni · 09/02/2009 17:38

Hi ladies

PnM firstly, you poor poor thing with tonsilitis - I suffered from that for a few years before having them out in my early 20s and it's totally horrible (once even ended up rushed to hospital with quinsy throat as was in the process of slowly suffocating!). It's so painful and you have my full sympathy - hope those antibiotics kick in good and fast! Also, gargling with one of those dissolved painkillers can work wonders with pain relief...Secondly, what a bummer about not being able to ttc this cycle, so frustrating for you ...and thirdly, at how your PCT would act if you went private! I'm amazed at how NHS care can vary as my doctors have always been like "yup, you can go private and come back into the NHS if necessary" as I've gotten the impression that for fertility stuff often the attitude is that going private takes the strain off an already under-resourced part of the NHS. I really love the NHS (compared to the shocking expense of the Irish and American systems!) but I hate to hear of your struggles to get the help you need and deserve...re the metformin, how about clomid? Or re-testing? Things being "inconclusive" for PCOS doesn't rule it out entirely. My impression from MN is that women often struggle to get a good diagnosis of PCOS so perhaps it's worth checking out the pcos website that Attila recommends (verity)

MrsH I am so hoping that you caught the egg this month [fingers firmly crossed emoticon]. That temp drop could in fact be a temp dip and that combined with the cramps could also be very good symptoms (espec after Friday's nausea!). Where are you and your DD going on hols? What with Bucky in Miami, I'm getting more and more envious of folks' holiday plans!

JollyBear so good to hear from you and to hear that your little girl's a smiling cutie too . As MrsH says we all love to be reminded of keeping our eyes on the prize!!

Bucky hope you're having fun in Miami (when we have our meet up I'll be annoying you with my peculiar Miami pronounciation as two of my closest friends had one of their best holidays ever there and I've heard so many funny stories about it that I just cannot say it out loud without a comedy "My-am-iiiii" style pronounciation!). Also hoping that you come back with some good news that the clomid's worked!!

MOB hope you're doing well and taking care of yourself. After my experience at the Lister this morning I'm keeping you as my inspiration for how right ICSI can go!!

Ei hope you're fully recovered and enjoying life

So the Lister consultation was most interesting but also quite draining. The consultant was totally lovely (MrsH I saw Dr Jaya Parikh and she put us both totally at our ease - she really seemed to "get" ftc in such a sympathetic way that I almost cried with relief to find a medical person who truly understood). I was utterly fascinated by the ultrasound. I'm literally about to ovulate from my right ovary and was loving the sonographer pointing out the dominant follicle and all the other follicles and showing me my endometrium etc. Fascinating! And also very heartening as no cysts, fibroids or anything and also loads of small follicles (she counted 17 follicles in total, including the dominant follicle) which indicates I'd probably respond well to IVF drugs but yet definately nothing to indicate PCOS. However, my DH's sperm sample was even worse than last time - down to a concentration of 7million/ml (it was 13 million/ml back in November) but with slightly better percentages of abnormal forms etc. But even with the first SA she saw she immediately said ICSI, which I must admit surprised us both. Then when today's SA came back in the midst of the consultation it was even clearer that ICSI is our best route forward (well, pretty much our only assisted conception route forward). Poor old DH was very but also tried to put a brave face on it by saying at least we have a reason. But anyway, she did say that the early m/c back in Sept was a good sign, and that all indicators are that we'd have a high chance of success at IVF/ICSI (over 70% if we could get to a blastocyst stage).

We've now decided to take it easy on things for a little while, as I don't feel emotionally or physically ready to start IVF just yet. I know that seems crazy, since all I've wanted is a baby for so long now, but I just want to take a couple of months to get my head around the idea of IVF. This is how I handle all the big events in my life (I like to spend time thinking about things!) so I went into the consultation knowing that starting IVF in 10 days was never realistic for me. I'm going to tune up (so to speak) with some weight loss and acupuncture and look to start IVF in Apr/May (post Easter anyway). She also advised trying to get as much of the bloodwork sorted at my GPs as possible (even try to get the drugs funded!), as the ICSI element adds a whole level of more costs we hadn't originally expected.

So god, sorry for the "war & peace" length of this post! Am sat at my desk feeling a bit drained by the whole day, but also strangely upbeat...hard to describe...especially after a very fun but totally exhausting weekend!

Love to you all,
Caitni xx

MrsHappy · 09/02/2009 21:25

Evening all

Picknmix you poor thing having an evil sore throat. I am sending you virtual hot lemon and honey , some spicy chicken broth (my sure-fire sore throat killer) and some soluble aspirin for gargling purposes. I really hope you are feeling better soon. That's shit news that you can't TTC this month, but maybe a month off is a good idea. I know that whenever I am ordered to take some time off once I get over my annoyance it is actually a small relief. Also at your doctor's stupidity. Was it your GP who gave you that fabulous advice or someone more specialist? I really really wish I had the money to start a WIMBLEWAI(N)F IVF/other treatment scholarship fund to see you all (i.e. everyone on this thread) right. Re your records, can I suggest sending the hospital an Information Request under the Data Protection Act? You are entitled to see your notes, so why not get a copy and sneak off to the private doctor without telling anyone?

Caitni that sounds like a really productive meeting at the Lister. I know that IVF is a scary business but god what an utter relief to have a doctor who knows what you are going through and who can help. I'm really excited for you that things are coming together, even if you do need to have ICSI. I hope you are now resting your fingers after that epic post.

Well, some maybe news from me. Because I am at 10dpo with sore back and boobs I peed on a stick on a whim. And although it is very light I believe I see a second line. Now before we all get excited and start screaming like schoolgirls, my DH has bollocked me for "testing too early" and claimed he could not see the line to begin with. But I can. And so could my camera. But I am going to wait a few days and test again before I consider myself to be up the duff. (And thenceforce will begin my second two week wait (for a scan to check if it is in the right place - argh!). I am not going to test tomorrow because I have two interviews and will unable to concentrate if I am thinking about babies! Anyway, I shall check in with an update as soon as there is one.

Speak soon.
XX

(ps the vomming was M&S ready meal related. Not hormones)

PicknMix · 10/02/2009 07:05

Woah...MrsH, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed all day. Both for interviews sake and for lines on sticks.

Am off to work now but just quickly am pleased to hear your appt went so well Caitni, for your dh but pleased he's seeing the positive side.

Back later x

MrsHappy · 10/02/2009 07:50

OK, so I did test.

Digital BFP this time. [nail biting terror emoticon].

If this one is ok, this has to be the silliest ever application of the Laws of Pregnativity. No job + no benefits (for the first time in years) x planned overseas trip in a couple of weeks / only one shag all cycle = BFP. Moronic.

Caitni · 10/02/2009 09:59

Congratulations MrsH - a digital BFP at only 11 dpo is excellent!!! (and don't feel bad about testing with FMU - who couldn't test after a faint positive at 10dpo???). I'm very happy for you and am hoping that this little bean snuggles down happily in your lovely smooth womb
PS good luck with the interviews today
xxx

readyfornumber2 · 10/02/2009 14:06

Hi Ladies thought I would pop by and say hello

MrsHappy CONGRATULATIONS on the BFP Im so pleased for you and it seems that the law of pregnativity has been hard at work lol

Hi to everyone else I hope things are good with you all x

Well I am 11+5 today and had my first scan, got to see baby wriggling around all happy and then we got to see their Brother or Sister wriggling around too!!
To say we are shocked would be the understatement of the year lol, I have to go to another hospital on friday for another scan to see if they are identical or not

JollyBear · 10/02/2009 15:04

OOoooh two lots of good news!

MrsH That is fantastic! What wonderful news and such an early result too. I'm so happy for you. Will they give you any early scan for reassurance?

RFN2 Wow another set of twins on the thread! Congratulations

P&M Oh my goodness tonsilitus is just so painful. You have my every sympathy. I thought tonsilitus was just a sore throat till I had it, and my God it hurt. Hope you feel better soon.

caitni a bit of time out before going ahead sounds like a really good idea to give you both time to let the idea sink in. I hope you are going to stick around the thread though.

MOB How are the chicks? Has the sickness passed yet?

Best dash, the jollycub is wakening...

readyfornumber2 · 10/02/2009 15:09

MrsHappy Just wanted to add that I got my BFP at 10dpo and am having twins so the law of pregnantivity may be even harder at work

mibbes · 10/02/2009 15:54

MrsH congratulations - lovely news ! I am so pleased for you

Caitni great chance of success, good on you taking your time to prepare, very sensible.

PicknMix I really hope you get some progress soon and grr at tonsils, flipping ABs and stupid drivers.

Hi Jolly ! I've kind of dropped off the PN thread as it moves too quickly and no longer have time - DS keeps me very busy

Bucky2008 · 10/02/2009 16:16

Yay MrsH that's great great news. . Lord knows we need some on this thread .

If the laws of pregnativity are applied to me too, I should get a BFP - Huge Amounts of alcohol + Bad junk food + very little sleep = ?

I'm just popping in as am still in Miami, but wanted to say congrats to Mrs H. Hope you are feeling better PnM and that the rest of you are having a great day. I am back on Thursday (landing at 6.20am) but will be non human till Friday. So will catch up with you all again then.
xx

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MrsHappy · 10/02/2009 19:26

Thanks for the congratulations ladies.

Unlike last time I refuse to get at all excited unless and until I see the bean on a scan in the right place. Last time I got a BFP at 11dpo too, and my chart looks similar so am trying not to get too worked up...

I am going to pitch up at the EPAU at the start of the week after next. Fingers crossed all is well or that is my holiday out of the window!

Yikes this thread seems to cause twins. (Typical, no babies for ages and then two come along at once!) Congratulations, Rfn2. I hope the shock is wearing off!

Higs to you all. I am off to bed soon cos I feel like poo. (Because DD has decided she is nocturnal, not because of anything pg-related)

PicknMix · 10/02/2009 21:01

Awwww, MrsH I understand your reticence but I'm feeling very happy for you right now

It's lovely to see everyone on here! Hi JB and Mibbes again!!

And hi to you R4N2 and wow at your news !!

As I said this morning Caitni, I'm pleased you had a productive time at the Lister. It must seem like such a daunting prospect - I always see any IVF/ICSI treatment as way off in the future but, in reality, I think we might need to start facing up to things as well (we, as in me and my DH, not me and you!) and I think I'd feel the same as you that I would need a bit of time to get used to the idea, let alone the procedure.

Hope you're ok MOB?

Thanks for all your suggestions re my pct and their incompetence. Sadly its the same man who does the NHS and the private clinic in this area so no chance of sneaking off with my notes unless we went further a field. Speaking of which - does anybody know of a website that lists all private fertility clinics? I've googled and I've little joy so far.

It was my GP who gave me such wonderful 'advice' . Not sure she'd allow more tests to confirm PCOS as she seemed certain that I didn't have that as, wait for it, I wasn't overweight or hairy enough. All this deduced from a phone call!!!

Ah well, at least the tonsilitus is on its way out. Get it at least twice a year but never this bad before. Have stopped the anti-bs as they were making me sick so leaving my body to do its thing now. Off to bed again in a sec, been to Kent and back today so bit knackered!

God, I talk far too much about myself, apologies, I'm waaaaaay too self absorbed at the moment.....

PicknMix · 10/02/2009 21:02

Oh, and hi to overseas Bucky as well

MrsHappy · 10/02/2009 21:16

PnM these guys regulate IVF clinics. Obviously the clinics do other treatments and investigations too.

You're on the south coast, yes? There is a clinic in Brighton - Agora - which has been set up by some doctors from the Lister. It's pretty new so I don't know if they publish results yet but it is where I would go if I was down that way and didn't work in London.

Glad you are feeling a bit better.

HappyandEiknowit · 10/02/2009 22:14

hi ladies
just thought i would stick my head round the door to say hi!
life is not too good at the mo as my DHs grandad died this morning after a very short battle with cancer we were very close and he was like my own grandad so needless to say we are devastated
i will come in and speak to you all soon when my head is retracted from my arse
mrsH congrats on your BFP il do a better one for you soon xx
love and hugs to one and all xxx
xx ei xx