The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club

[Bucky2008]

OK, so how about we start of on a positive....

I bought the test.

I did the test.

BFP .

Job done.

Hi all

MrsH sorry you're feeling like poo though am glad to hear of your smooth & beautiful womb ...I hope you don't feel bad that it's good in there IYKWIM. At the HSG, I was kind of disappointed to have good tubes - I know that sounds utterly mental, but I was hoping to have an explanation for why we haven't conceived yet. Of course now I'm very happy (one less thing to worry about) but on the day itself I was a bit that our struggle to conceive didn't have an "easy" answer...anyway, don't want to ramble on too much my soon to be nearly neighbour (yay!), but really hope you're doing OK xx

Ei sorry to hear that AF showed up
, especially as it was late this month wasn't it? Double ...still, shall be hoping that this cycle is your month!

PnM also sorry hear that AF showed up - must have been gutting...though thanks for the positive vibes - am indeed 7dpo now! I think it's good that your test results will be sent to you, as then at least you don't have to struggle to get your hands on your own records. You'd also be armed with the relevant info in case you decide to do what MOB did and just book a one-off consultation with a private consultant as a way of finding out what your options are. I'm not sure about around Chichester, but in Brighton I could have gotten a private initial consultation for not much more than a hundred pounds...

Bucky I agree with PnM and reckon you did the right thing by taking the tab as soon as you remembered. Am keeping my fingers crossed and sending you many positive vibes that this month you get a BFP! I must say Miami would be one of my top picks of places to go to take my mind off the TWW

MOB am sure all is fine, but am getting a little worried at your silence! Hope that all is well with you

Our packing has gone swimmingly, to the point where we've just had a lovely takeaway and are off to Slumdog Millionaire now as we've been pretty much all packed since this morning. Even got to fit in a last driving lesson with my lovely instructor! Tis been remarkably hassle-free so far...And some friends are coming around to the new place tomorrow evening to welcome us to our new 'hood (which is already their 'hood ).

I've also decided to go along to the NHS consultant app on the 2 Feb. I thought about canceling it, but it would take ages to get another one through a new GP in London. So I'll just pop back for an afternoon and see what he says. I feel like I'd be a fool to skip some free medical advice, especially as moving's expensive!

Anyway, back to my glass of wine. Hope everyone has a good weekend - I'll log back on as soon as we're set up in the new gaff.
caitni xx

hi ladies
jeez it quiet in here recently
well things are looking up as i went to see the doctor today (iv got ANOTHER kidney infection) and had a good chat about our TTC difficulties and she was lovely (its a new doctor as we moved surgery!) very supportive and she offered to refer me straight away to subfertility clinic as she said theres no point in me wasting time doing tests that they will do anyway she was very happy about my wieghtloss (as am i) and said to keep up the good work she also said that looking at old results of blood tests i may have hormonal imbalance and she would like them to look at PCOS specifically so she has included that in her referral hopefully i will have my appointment through in a few weeks and we can start to sort this mess out i never thought i would be hapy to be referred for fertility testing but it seems like a light at the end of this long tunnel
hope everyone is having a nice time away from here (has everyone gone and got lives and left me here still looking for mine??) love and higs
xx ei xx

Ei I am glad you got such a positive response from your new doctor. Lord knows you have had rubbish ones up until now!

It is really quiet on here. I miss everyone. What are you all doing? CD10 here already!

Ei I am glad you got such a positive response from your new doctor. Lord knows you have had rubbish ones up until now!

It is really quiet on here. I miss everyone. What are you all doing? CD10 here already!

Hi ladies

Sorry I have not been about. I have had lots of things going on, none of which are anything to do with ttc and so I have been concentrating on other parts of my life for once!

CD13 for me. I am hoping that ovulation holds off until Saturday (CD17) because my DH is away and won't be back until Friday. Arg! It would be sod's law if my egg appeared tomorrow. And I have EWCM. Oooh heck. I am hoping that getting stressed about it will keep that eggy away!

Today I went to see a friend who gave birth last week (while I was under anaesthetic, oh the irony) and actually it was fine. Newborn babies are kind of dull but it was good to see her looking so well. I am not sure I will feel the same when other friends decide to sprog in May (when ep no2 would have been born) but I am feeling kind of chilled about the whole thing. I think part of me is starting to accept that it might not happen for me and that does make things easier.

Right enough about moi...

Caitni did the move go well and are you settled into North London?

Bucky day 19 is the new day 21, don'tchaknow. When are you off to Miami?

Ei I am glad to hear your doctor is being helpful. Fingers crossed for a quick appointment.

PnM are you feeling ok? That hospital is shocking, I think. I can't help wondering whether there is some guideline about how soon you should be seen after a test. I cannot imagine that waiting the best part of a year is acceptable. Might go do some research later...

Finally, has anyone seen MOB? She seems to have disappeared around the time of her 12 week scan and now I am worried. Mob, if you are lurking, get in touch. I want to know you're ok.

First of all... Sorry, sorry, sorry ladies for being AWOL for so long. Also sorry to have worried you all. Everything is fine, it's just that, rather like MrsH, we have a lot of "non-baby" stuff going on in our lives ATM, and i am also, quite frankly, SHATTERED most of the time!!!! These babies are definitely making their presence felt, as the sickness hasn't eased up much, and i also have SPD (which has started very early) meaning i have a lot of pain. Unfortunately, therefore, i have been neglecting mumsnet!! Everything, however, is absolutely fine with the chicklets. I am almost 15 weeks and they looked great at the scan a couple of weeks ago. We are finally starting to relax a little since the awful scare after Christmas.

Anyway, enough about me . I have only just skimmed through the last couple of weeks news - so forgive me if i have missed anything.

Caitni I am so pleased that the HSG showed that you had lovely plumbing. I do understand what you mean about hoping in a way that it would find something, but, at the same time, it means that hopefully "all" that is standing in your way is a low sperm count. Not that i am trying to play down all the difficulties that your DH has been through, but my DH & I are a good example of how a low sperm count can be very easily overcome with IVF! I've lost track a bit - have you moved now??

MrsH Glad that the procedure went well, and that your insides are looking lovely. What happens now though? Do you have a follow up appt with the consultant to talk about options?

PnM I am so on your behalf, at the delay yet again in your follow up appt. It is utterly unacceptable, and means that the results they look at will be months old. Let alone the impact on you and DH emotionally. Emailing the consultant sounds like a good idea. Also, have you spoken to PALS (patient advice and liaison service)? They can be very good at sorting out this sort of thing. You may well have done, but just incase you haven't their number is: 01243 831822.

EI Sounds like you have a good new GP - who is taking your ttc difficulties seriously. I am very impressed at the weightloss - brilliant!

Bucky I am so sorry to hear that your first clomid month was unsuccessful, but keep at it. Miami sounds wonderful (!) Definitely keep taking the clomid and book in for the blood test on CD19 - by then, although the levels won't be at maximum, it should give a good indication whether or not you have ov'd.

Well, i promise to try and not leave it so long until i'm back. By the way - Bucky, thank you for your message via FB (yes it is me) but that was from when i registered many years ago, with my old email address, and i can't even remember my password etc to get back into it. However, i have just re-registered, with a new email address, so i must get up and running with that, and keep up with you all on there. Trouble is, i haven't really got a clue about FB, all i know is i have nothing on my "wall" and i don't have any friends yet!!!!

Hi ladies,

Ei so so glad to hear that things are moving in the right direction for you, referral wise. Having a sympathetic GP makes such a world of difference. Am still hoping you get a natural BFP before the appointment, but at least you know things are moving forward for you and your family

MOB nearly 15 weeks - gosh, time is flying! So glad to hear all is well with the chicklets after the scare in December, though you poor thing with the SPD, take care of yourself...and you are indeed my beacon of hope when it comes to IVF overcoming sperm problems though have still got such mixed feelings that IVF is looming on our horizon (why can't our bodies just bloody work, caitni whines, like all the other effing fertile people in my family!)

MrsH good to hear you sounding philosophical about your friend's baby...I still just use my weird points system when deciding which preggo friends and family I'm genuinely happy for and who I have to put on a brave face for . And I hereby command your egg to stay put until Sat

Evening all,

I'm tres tired tonight so will have to keep this short, apologies!

Really pleased to hear all is ok MOB, was beginning to get a little bit worried. Although sorry to hear the tiredness is getting to you and that you're already suffering SPD not nice for you. I hope you're getting enough time to get a bit of rest? Thank you for the PALS number, am intending on giving them a ring tomorrow if I get time.

Helloooo Bucky hope you're ok and 'busy' . Did you ring the hospital in the end about your missed pill? how long 'til Miami now?!?!

Yay for a smooth move back to London Caitni . I know exactly what you mean about having high hopes for a post HSG bfp (Christ, when did my life turn into talking in acronyms?!! Anyway, I digress...). Bugger about the spotting and falling temps , I really hope the consultant is able to push things forward for you. Although, as an aside, I've read that the HSG can have a positive effect for 2 cycles post scan so there's always next month...

How are you feeling MrsH? Pleased to hear you sounding a bit more chilled about things. Have my fingers crossed for a late egg for you! Nice to hear you had a lovely trip to visit the newborn, although totally understand your reticence (sp?) re your friends who are due the same time as your ep would've been, heartbreaking stuff.

Ei - yay for a brilliant Dr. Really really hope this is the start of good things for you. As I'm finding out to my cost, the sooner you're 'in the system' the better. Let us know when you get the referal through.

As I said before, I'll be giving PALS a ring tomorrow, also DH and I have compiled a complaint email to send (DH works with people with learning dificulties and is vv au fait with the NHS and lodging complaints). He's been reasonably patient up until now but, seeing as the results haven't turned up in the post (am slightly but not sure why I expected any better really), he's beginning to lose it over the whole thing.

I just feel totally disheartened. Need to inspect the NICE guidelines as to what should happen - finding it quite difficult to understand why my treatment has varied soooo much in comparison to others on MN. Made me feel quite despondent about ttc actually, like there really isn't any point in it all anymore .

Need to pull my socks up and start fighting I guess!

evening ladies
hope everyone is doing well
caitni sorry you think AF has arrived fingers crossed its implantation spotting and if not loads of luck for your appointment and for next cycle
PnM where in the country do you live? it just seems you have got the worst hospital system ever!! even our mediocre facilities seem to be quite efficient. is there no way you could pay and go private?? i hope you get some help from pals
MOB nice to see you 15 weeks already!! it seems like yesterday you were starting your treatment and here you are growing a litter
bucky hope you are ok how long til miami?
hello to the lurkers
xx ei xx

Hi ladies,

PnM god, I had to giggle at the "when did my life turn into talking in acronyms?" as I feel the same too sometimes (lol!). I'm also more than a little addicted to the emoticons after years of thinking "why do people add these things to their emails?" (). The things MN does to us, eh? I'm sorry to hear you're disheartened - big to you. It's normal to feel frustrated (you are dealing with an idiotic system) but please don't lose hope. I believe you'll get your BFP and then you'll be OTM (Over The Moon) and will go on to be TBME (The Best Mum Ever) (like we need any more acronymns )

And big to Ei Bucky MrsH MOB - hope everyone's doing well xx

Feeling much better today, so more than a little at my self-indulgent rant yesterday! Still no period, but should arrive later tonight/tomorrow. At least it means I got my blueness out of the way yesterday so can enjoy the weekend .

Hi all

Glad you are feeling better today Caitni, and I hope you have a good weekend exploring your new 'hood!

MOB I am glad you are ok and your were just off having a life. Grr to the SPD etc, but I'm sure if you think back to months ago you'll recall that you would have put up with any amount of pregnancy hassle for a bean. Anyway, in 25 weeks time (less since there are two in there) all of your discomfort will be over...

PnM please don't feel down. I too reckon an email directly to the consultant saying you are concerned that your tests will be no use at this rate might do the trick. Chin up; you and your DH will get there in the end.

Have you gone to Miami now, Bucky?

You sound cheery Ei. I hope everything is going ok.

News here... well I got my at last this afternoon but flipping DH's business trip was extended and so instead of coming home today he is not back until tomorrow morning! And post transatlantic flight he may not be feeling frisky. Why does it have to be so effing hard???? Grr!

hi ladies
hope everyone is ok
well my blardy kidney infection seems to be getting worse not better which means no nookie for me and dh and i wanted to get started early this cycle i think il have to revisit the lovely doc again as my nether regions seem to have swelled and are rather sore and uncomfortable ahh well it could be worse i suppose
nice to see you back to your cheerful self caitni MrsH hope you are well and you catch that egg with a bit of post flight fancy
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Sorry to hear you're still unwell Ei so hope the doc can get it sorted.

MrsH also sorry to hear that bloody flight times is getting in the way - hope your DH was up for some fun this morning (or at some point today). The egg hatches up to 48 hours after the LH surge so there's still time - am keeping my fingers crossed for you

So can feel that AF is going to be starting today - pah! But at least my luteal phase seems to have now lengthened to 13 days, albeit with random spotting, which is definitely good news. I'm going to have to get back into accupuncture & yoga, as have so much more time on my hands now that I can fit it in again

Hope everyone has a good day

Morning ladies

I don't like the "new" MN
What do you all think?

Caitni Please don't feel bad about ranting the other day. That is exactly what you should be doing if you are feeling down. However, i'm pleased to see you sounding a bit brighter. Did your period arrive? I hope the appt on Monday is useful, and that they have some positive suggestions for you.

MrsH You will just have to leap on MrH tomorrow morning. If you have a today that could be perfect timing. I guess you have the difficulty of your DD being around, though. Could you pop her infront of a DVD for a minute and have a very quick quickie?? He can then sleep all he likes! Crumbs, I can't believe i am organising people's sex lives for them . You are absolutely right, all the pain is totally worth it, for a bean (or two!) I hope I didn't come across as moaning the other day, I didn't mean it that way at all. I'm so sorry if it read that way.It's just the reason why I haven't been on the pc much! These two babies are so, so, special to us particularly as they weren't so easy to come by.

EI You poor thing, you sound so poorly. Get yourself back to the dr. Sore nether regions doesn't sound nice at all. Could you have thrush as well from the antibiotics you've been taking?? Hope you're tucked up in bed or resting somewhere.

PnM Any luck with the hopsital?

Bucky Have you gone? If so, hope you're having a wonderfult time!

Hello also to our "post-natal" ladies and gorgeous babies. Hope you're all doing ok.

Have a good weekend everyone

X-posted Caitni! Lengthened LP sounds good.

Duh! Just realised, MrsH that your DH is home TODAY. Guess you are at work - so leap on him tonight!!!

Agree about the new look MN MOB - also not sure I like it yet (though am sure I'll get used to it eventually!)

Oh no, MOB I ddn't think you were complaining, I was trying to cheer you up! Thanks for helping me schedule my sex life... DH got home this morning and fortunately was not completely knackered. I just hope we were in time since I think I felt the egg hatch at about midnight last night. My temp was still nice and low this morning so I am seeing that as a good sign...

Poor Ei with an ill kidney! The sore nethers do not sound good [wince emoticon] and I hope the GP sorts it all out for you.

Caitni will you go back to Mr Needles for the acupuncture or find someone new now that you are back in London full time?

Well, I am not working any more (not entirely my choice) and so have lots of time for MN, but also am concentrating on lowering my stress levels to see if that helps. I've noticed that my non-working friends seem to get pg at the drop of a hat! I am not sure about the new look MN either but it is easy to find the "threads I'm on" bit and I think for a newcomer the homepage may be easier than the old one. When I first came on MN I was looking for product reviews so those are certainly easier to find!

Hope everyone is well.

Hi MrsH - glad to hear that MrH wasn't too knackered this morning - what a trooper . Since your temp is still low I think it's a good sign that you got the troops in there in time . Sorry to hear about the work situation but I'm glad that you're aiming for a lower stress life. It should help ttc, but should, more importantly, just improve the quality of your life (and family life) in general. I'm not too sure about Mr Needles yet, as I now spend 95% of my time up in the Kings Cross office so getting back down to Farringdon is a mild hassle. There's a lady close to the Kings Cross office who also works at Zita West. I'm tempted to phone up though have a feeling her fees will be exorbitant!

Ah ladies sorry, I am still here. I have just been lurking with not a great deal to say!

I'm sure you timed your BD wll MrsH and isn't it a boy if the sperm arrive after the egg has hatched instead of hanging out waiting for it ? .

Caitni roll on another month babe . But at least you can have vino-time now. .

MOB Aw, its so great that our little chicklets are getting so big already! I feel all warm and glowey thinking about how you will have your little babies in a few months time. [higs].

Ei...oh dear. . Hope your lady garden perks up in a few days. Somebody called it a welcome mat the other day which cracked me up. Not sure where I heard that . Hope you feel better soon.

PicknMix , Bucky gets out her pom poms...F U C K You will have a baby one day!!!! Yayayayaya (jumping up and down doing a cheerleader kind of action) That is to kick off your fighting spirit . Sorry for the crudity, but it called for desperate measures. Our babies are apparently still shanging out together. In fact I think my baby missed your baby so much that it went back last time! OMG I have gone totally mental. .

Who have I forgotten? Ah well everybody else...you are loved.

Me well, this cycle is very different to last cycle and I think it is because I botched up the pill taking thing. I am worried about getting pg with a hermaphrodite baby because I will have messed up all its hormones or something...This would be funny if it was not true . Ok maybe it is just funny . Anyway I had one day of EWCM on like CD10 ? And now nothing...I am also being incredibly self involved and as I don't for a millisecond think I am going to actually get a bfp this month I am wondering if I should get cheap botox in Miami. (How bloody shallow am I???). After three years I just don't think I will ever have a baby and so I just have very little resolve when I decide to do bad things. But if I did have it and then I did get a BFP, then not only might it be a hermaphrodite baby it could be all botulized,so I wont do it. But then when I get a stupid BFN and have to pay twice as much I am going to be p*ssed off!! Anyway, I go next Thursday but i will have internet access the whole time so will check in I am sure. Sorry for being all skanky today...I am in a weird mood.

Er, I am pretty sure that clomid does not cause hermaprodite babies otherwise there would be an awful lot of them running about!
And doesn't the botulism stay in your face? I am sure that Natasha Kerplinkyplunk must have carried on with the botox during her pregnancy otherwise her face would surely have collapsed. (Disclaimer, I am no expert either on botox or on NK) (sidenote: I saw her in Starbucks in Parson's Green a while ago and she looked ancient. Margaret Thatcher's hair and face caked in TV make-up. She was TINY though.) Doesn't clomid cause less CM anyway? But ovulation is meant to happen a certain number of days (I think I read 5-9, but check this) after you take your last pill so just break out the pre-seed and get on with it!

When are you off to Miami? Can I come?

Oh Bucky sorry to hear you're in a funny mood (though your post did make me giggle too). I think MrsH is right that ovulation happens a fixed no. of days after taking the last pill. And drying up your lady parts is a definite bad side effect of it. I second MrsH - crack open the pre-seed and whey-hey! Am actually tempted to try pre-seed myself this month - I get copiuous CM but surely even more couldn't hurt the little blighters?

MrsH I'm worried I sounded a bit cavalier yesterday about you not working, as you said it wasn't entirely your decision. Hope it wasn't too stressful a time for you...ps was LMAO at your description of Natasha Kerplinksky - Margaret Thatcher hair is my new favourite insult!!

Waves to everyone else . Tis a lovely sunny day here and I had great fun this morning watching the sparrows, blue tits, starlings, blackbirds and random jays having fun at the feeding station we've set up in the garden.

Oi you lot, I don't have dry lady parts!!! LOL. . You're making me sound all shrivelled and scratchy! . You will be pleased to know that I could have broken records for the stretchiness of my EWCM today, so there ha ha. Practically had to molest poor DP though as by the time I got back from my girl chores today he was half way out the door for his lads night out.

OK, I am kind of over the hermaphrodite baby thing today, although I still think the bad pill popping can't be a good thing. I got a message back from the hospital about three days after I rang...great , that's a load of good to me!

However, the botox, I think must travel round your body a bit. They say if you put a clove of garlic between your toes after about 5 mins you can taste it as it travels through your skin into your bloodstream, surely the botulism would do the same thing. Although I wasn't planning on joining the Kerplinkyplunk/Minogue school of botoxing..well, not just yet anyway LOL.

I am so bored. I have to stay in tonight as Mr Bucky is out so I am dogsitting. My friends are mostly in London, so going out would mean coming home late and I have to get up with the pups early as DP is staying away. Also, I am saving all my energy, money and my liver for Miami.

Bet you all have super interesting lives and are doing something culturally enlightening or socially redeeming. .

See ya later ladies.x

Bucky chuckle at your record-breaking CM - love the TMI of this thread . Very wise saving yourself for Miami!

I had a lovely grown up London day checking out auction houses around the Kings Road (I practically never venture as far west as Chelsea) before heading to Warren Evans in Shoreditch for a friend to buy a new bed (I used my work discount to get her an extra 10% off the sale price so we celebrated the savings in a pub ). So, er, not cultural but pretty tame all the same...

hi ladies
just a quickie to say hi
i had a phone call this morning from the subfertility centre i have been referred to to inform me that my appointment is booked for 330 on 5th march! less than 6 weeks away PnM i think you should travel up here for your investigations!! they are seeming quite efficient up to now
bucky i have heard it called a welcome mat before aswell mine is out of order at the mo so no mat out to welcome anything
i went back to see my gp and she gave me new antibiotics as they had my test results back already it had been 3 days!! in my last gps you had to fight for your tests and wait over a week for the results!! i am very impressed with my new surgery they are rather good
hope everyone else is doing well
xx ei xx

Yay for your GP Ei. I am thinking of moving to where you live.

Bucky I am confused... who on earth would put a clove of garlic between their toes?

Caitni for some reason I think Mr Needles might just do something around King's Cross too (although I could be making this up!).

No news here, temps are up, egg has hatched. Now I just have to wait. Wouldn't it be sod's law if I was up the spout with no job???