Start clomid tomorrow. Just read leaflet and I'm scared

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Hello

This is my first post on Mumsnet although I've been reading the conception threads avidly.

I'm due to start Clomid tomorrow and I've just been reading the lengthy side effects and now I've gone from excited to really scared.

Are they really that bad? I'm having visions of myself in a darkened room with pencils up my nose!

Any reasurances would be greatly appreciated. Headaches and hot flushes I can cope with. Insanity I can't.

hi vics,

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Hi all, hope you are all OK.

Had my day 10 scan this morning - lots of follicles around 1.1/1.2 and one at 1.5, so back on Monday. Hoping I surge naturally on Sunday so can have treatment Monday as will be difficult to get away from work on Tuesday. Not sure if I would need hcg as well to make sure that more than one egg gets released though. Nurse said they wouldn't cancel my treatment if I have more than 3 this time since have had so many failures.

Asked about what happens next if doesn't work and basically it's IVF. No point increasing Clomid as I'm ovulating just not turning them into babies. For IVF I'd have to transfer to the private clinic owned by my employer and find rather a lot of money, but success rate for my age is 40-50%, so suddenly feels like I should try. Been reading their website and they do a 3d ultrasound scan of womb, tubes and ovaries before treatment that can pick up problems not usually found so it would be good to know everything is OK.

Good luck with SME plan all and hope your massage is relaxing for you Ray.

HI Issy

How did the treatment go? How many did you have? Really hope this one works for you but if not the whole IVF thing looks exciting.

Had my scan today and have one 1.8 and one 2.7 thing that the scanner thought might be a follicle about to go or a cyst. She didn't seem worried about it though.

Have decided to give clomid a rest after this cycle because I'm still feeling very down and anxious. Going to circuits tonight so hopefully that'll release a few endorphins.

Hope you're all ok. xx

Hi Summermagic

1.8 and 2.7 sounds good. Fingers crossed for you. Very impressed with your circuits - I'm really unfit, other than my dancing I do nothing. They say you shouldn't start any new exercise if you're pg so that's been my excuse for not getting fit since February!

I've heard some people do well by coming off clomid and going back on, but hopefully this one will work for you and you won't need to worry.

I didn't take proper notice of my scan results today as they were going to rescan on Wednesday - I definitely had two larger follicles, one on each ovary, but can't remember whether were 1.7 and 1.8 or 1.8 and 1.9, some 1.3s and 1.2s. I'm confused at the moment. I used OPK about 12:30 and the lines were almost the same, which is as positive as I sometimes get, so told clinic they were the same and now have to use Ovitrelle tonight for treatment Wednesday. Since the OPK was so borderline I retested around 4pm and was def negative so now I think I may have jumped the gun. Sorry TMI warning - trying so hard not to drink too much that at lunchtime could only manage 3 secs of poas so must have been concentrated, but for later test peed in plastic cup to avoid the problem and was quite weak, despite trying hard not to drink in final 2 hours, so probably just that. Can't decide whether to test again tomorrow morning and use Ovitrelle then (the original plan when I left clinic today) or just use it tonight anyway. Sometimes my follicles go to 1.8 and others they're well over 2 so never sure. Bodies - aren't they confusing!

Have spent all weekend looking at IVF. Established real cost is about £4K and mortgage rates came down (yeah!) so can afford one try (and then pray that nothing goes wrong with my house). Question is whether to go for it or hope for Prince Charming to sweep me off my feet, lol! Sounds really awful but after deciding this was my last IUI, although devastated that I might never have kids, there was a little part of me that was looking forward to having my life back and being able to dream of meeting someone again after a year and a half of being 'off the market'. I know the reality would be that I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about ttc though, I'm too aware of my cycles now.

How's everyone else?

Hi everyone, just wondering how you're all doing?

Hia

I feel fine for the first time in three weeks- thank God. Just been away to West Wales with some friends and their two lovely little kids. Cottage was lovely but the walls and floors were like paper so did not make for good BD'ing opportunities.

Got positives on my OPKs on tuesday and Wednesday and BD'd tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Do you think that should be enough? Really going to try not to get too workedup this month though because getting that negative last month really knocked me.

How are you Issy? And everyone else?

Hi summermagic. Glad you're feeling good after your break. BD timing sounds good - only takes one .

TTC-wise I'm OK, but have had an upsetting week thanks to my ex and hoping it hasn't affected anything. Most of the time he's lovely and we're good friends, but 2-3 times a year he does something really out of order - not intentionally, he just has no empathy. This time I had enough and told him I'm not doing the friends thing anymore. Trouble is he was the first person I turn to when upset and I will miss him, so am . I think it's really important to reduce stress when ttc though so needed to get off that emotional rollercoaster.

Babydust to all xxx

summermagic That sounds spot on what about before the OPK and now its time for a well deserved rest.

Last round of clomid this time, am waiting for a referral letter to the fertility specialist as really dont feel positive.

hi summermagic,

The Bding sounds good, like issy sai it only takes one.
Sorry i havent been on for a while havent been feeling quite up to anything at the mo i just want to go to bed and sleep like all the time. worried i may have abit of depression.
Also i think i may have a virus, constant headache for 3 days, my eyes are sore and my back is like killing me even pain killers arent touching it.

I am not in a good place at the moment, i have all the signs of Ov but not sure that i am and perhaps a touch of thrush sorry TMI. Dh is realy up for it at the mo and he always does around ov so i must be, we Bd last night but my heart wasnt in it and after i laid there thinking ' what the feck is the point it doesnt bleeding work anyway, i am never going to get pg and keep it i am never going to have anymore children' then i wanted to cry but couldnt as Dh would have been upset by that. very very negative at the mo.

Still havent heard from the hospital and they said they would call me re being investigated as it is now my 3rd, its been 3 weeks now and they should have called me they are such bastards. (feeling angry still i think).
I have an appointment with the docs at 4.30 and i am going to let rip about everything and i mean everything.

Hi Ray,

Sorry you not feeling good (((hugs))) choc and wine.

Nice to see you back on a thread though.

How did your appt go ?

Hello everyone. Nice to see everyone back.

Ray - I'm so sorry you're feeling so crap. Totally understandable that you would be feeling depressed and negative at the moment but please don't let yourself spiral. I'm battling with a bit of it myself at the moment (though God knows why because I haven't been through half as much as you have recently) so it's something I'm trying to tell myself too.

Keep chasing that hospital too. I learnt the hard way with my son that you have to keep fighting your own corner when it comes to the NHS. He was diagnosed with arthritis in his wrist and ankle in May but not before they first told us wrongly that his blood tests had come back clear and tried to fob us off with carpel tunnel syndrome! What bloody two year old has carpel tunnel syndrome for fuck sake?

Anyway, good luck for the next week or so everyone. Lets all try and keep sane together xxxx

Hi Pinkie,

i saw the doc and he has referred me to the hospital for tests to see why i am Mcing, he was very quick to point out that most of the time they dont find anything at all so will have to see how that goes. knowing my luck it will be something like 6 months before i hear from them anyway.

Summermagic, so sorry you are feeling crap too its awful on top of christmas when you just want to be happy but cant i hate it.
I feel alittle better today, doc said i do have UTI so has given some tablets for that and have only taken one but seems to be working already. He was so nice to me and i cried like a baby in there but at least i felt like he was listening. He was the doctor who gave me the clomid and when i told him a was Pg he was so so happy for me, and he truley seemed gutted when i saw him so hopefully with him fighting my corner too i may get something done.

Not sure whats going on with my body i had all the signs of Ov but no pain at all so thinking i probably didnt as i always have pain when i ov, we did bd although my heart wasnt in it but lets watch this space if Af arrives when it should then i obviously did Ov but then i suppose it could take a while for my body to get bavck to normal.

Am resigning myself to the fact that i will never have any more children but also having fanatsies that i will go for investigations and they will say im Pg, things like that never happen to me but i just cant help hoping that it will happen that way. Think i may be losing the plot.

I'm glad that you have a good GP there Ray - hopefully they will sort things out for you. Did you get the Rhesus thing checked out? Sorry if my previous post about planning something special seemed insensitive, it's what my friend told me to do and even though I didn't feel like doing any such thing at the time, a couple weeks later those Glastonbury tickets went back on sale and it really helped having it to look forward to and all the planning and shopping for camping stuff took my mind off the mc.

I need a reality check today girls. I'm 7dpo had a temp dip this morning (also happened about this time in cycle when had mc and cp), followed later by sharp crampy pains too low to be wind and now my nips (sorry) are itching like crazy. But my boiler failed to light this morning so it was cold in my house and I was up an hour earlier than usual to go for my blood test on way to work and I'm wearing the cheapest bra I've ever bought (although never made me itch before). Also only checked the good charts for similarities, probably also had it lots of other times too. Was doing so well at not symptom spotting until today too. Someone slap me and tell me to stop!

Issy, Big slap STOP. You wont though, you poor thing i am so glad i'm not on the 2ww thing at the moment it is horrendous.

The doc has said that the hos will check for all the problems i could have so i suppose when i hear from them in about six months will be able to find out!!.

dito on the boiler thing it is frezzing in my house although i managed to relight it its going to take ages for it to warm the house now

Thanks Ray - slapped myself this morning by doing a test. When had suspected early mc stayed positive until 10 dpo instead of the usual 7dpo, but today was BFN, so probably not worked.

It's so infuriating you have to wait for so long. The clinic I'm considering going to for IVF, does a 3d ultrasound scan which is supposed to be able to check for things that may cause problems before they do the IVF. I wonder if you could get something similar done near you. There's more info about it here.

I went on another discussion board to check out the clinic and found someone on a different thread who got pg on her 11th IUI attempt, so there's hope for us yet!

Take care everyone xx

Hi Ladies

anyone ever experienced late ovulation on clomid? i havent had a period since i come off the pill over a year ago, was prescribed clomid and was told to count first day as cd 1 as i had no period, im now on cd33, still no period and dont think ive ovulated as the doc said this should happen around cd 10-15, done opk on these days which were neg however around cd 19-24 had cramping, from reading some threads this could have been ovulation cramps however they seem to be very late and if they were should i have had a period by now? im keen to start my next course but want to make sure it is not to early to take a preg test before starting my next course. Any advice?

Hi Valz

I am sure thats a bit confusing with clomid and although i am on it i havent experienced your side effects.

I do know that you must wait for a bleed before taking the next course. Have you taken a HPT and if so i would ask the docs for a blood one and then i think its provera they give to induce a bleed but only once they know you not pg.

I wouldnt take the pills without the bleed.

hope that helps.

valz

Who prescribed you the clomid?.

If you have had no periods for a year you should hopefully be under the care of a gynae unit at hospital. You should already have been tested through blood tests and internal ultrasounds to see if either problems with your thyroid gland or a condition called polycystic ovarian syndrome is the root cause. If this has not been done I would ask why you've just been given clomid and without any diagnosis.

It is not ideal to give you clomid as well without a firm diagnosis beforehand.

Would not use OPK's at all in your case. No point if there are no periods.

Hi Valz - welcome to the thread. I don't know much about this but if you ask on the 'anyone else had clomid and hcg trigger' thread there is someone on there who might be able to help.

Hi Attila - You always give such confident answers while most of us are so confused about the ttc process. Are you a fertility specialist?

Hope everyone is doing well xx

Hi Attila

The gynae consultant prescribed it at my first app with him on 4th Nov, he done blood tests so i phoned a week or so after for results and his secretary said my thyroid one came back clear and he has seen the results of the rest and signed them off so "he must be happy enough" was her words, and she said he will discuss them at my follow up appointmwnt which is the 20 jan 09. at my first app he said take 50mg for 5 days, if unsuccessful take 2nd course of 50mg for 5 days if thats still unsuccessful take 100mg for 5 days, so he expected me to have 3 courses done before i see him again. i had been on the pill for about 5 years before this so he said my ovaries are probably still sleeping and need something to shift them up a gear.

Pinkie i took a hpt 2weeks ago it was neg but it was probably too early.

i phoned a doctor yest who said the cramping is common on clomid but if it got severe it could be due to overstimulation in which case a scan would need to be done, she said though that wasnt likely with me as i only took 50mg. Anyone else experience these cramps?

Hi Valz,

I do do get odd bit of cramping, it was def.worse in the first month. If you not sure again i would call doc again.

If its 2 weeks since your last hpt i might take another incase you oved really late and you are now in your 2 week wait

I do sometimes think its so complicated with the clomid but thats the only way to help us so onwards we go

Hi Valz

I'm on my second round of clomid and although I had a scan at day 12 that detected three good sized folicles that were almost ready to release an egg, I didn't come on until day 34 of my cylce.

I'd say to a preg test because worrying about it might be delaying your period. I know that's not a very sicentific thing to say but I always find that I come on soon after doing one. Also, there's every chance you could be pregnant and that's why you didn't have one. I'd say two weeks ago is definately too early to detect anythin even if you were so try again.

I also had quite a lot of cramping post ovulation in my last cycle, though nothing yet this month.

Good luck.

How's everyone else? After being secretly convinced I was pregnant last cycle I am now convinced that I'm not this month. Better way to be though I'm thinking because I worked myself in to a total frenzy last month and I don't want to go there again.

Bloody hell. I've so had enough with this ttc lark. WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST FAST FORWARD A YEAR AND BE MN'ING WITH LOVELY BABIES ON OUR LAPS????????

xxxxxx

Hey summer magic i am joining you on the having enough of the ttc lark, i just want to fast forward to when i am 30 weeks Pg and know that everything will be alright and i will have a bouncy baby in my arms soon.

I know that im not realy ttc at the moment but its still there all the time in the back of my head and i just want to stop thinking about it all the time.
There is a little voice thats keeps telling me that it could happen and then theres me saying it is never going to happen and i need to accept that i will only have my DD, my litle angel. However i am getting worse where she is concerned as i hate it when shes not with me and all i do is worry myself sick that something bad will happen to her if i'm not there. Take last night she went for a sleepover and everytime i stopped thinking of ehr for a few minutes i pancked and thought ' oh my god i'm a shit mother and something bad will happen to serve me right'. Oh dear i think it may be time for some therpy or something !!!!

HI all,

I am sooooo hot this cycle, nausea and insomnia so more symptoms than usual.

am really going for it this cycle as its the last one before we go to the fertility specialist. been bding cd3,8,9,10,11 and am aiming to keep going til end of week