Start clomid tomorrow. Just read leaflet and I'm scared

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Hello

This is my first post on Mumsnet although I've been reading the conception threads avidly.

I'm due to start Clomid tomorrow and I've just been reading the lengthy side effects and now I've gone from excited to really scared.

Are they really that bad? I'm having visions of myself in a darkened room with pencils up my nose!

Any reasurances would be greatly appreciated. Headaches and hot flushes I can cope with. Insanity I can't.

Wow Ray. That's brilliant news. I've got a really good feeling for you on this one. My friend's consultant told her that once you've seen a heartbeat your chances of going full term go up to 90%!!

Glan the injections are going ok Issy. You must be getting really excited. Can't wait for your bit of good news too.

Appointment went well. Got a lap on the 8th. Really pleased because it's not just diagnostic. He can do stuff while he's in there. Thinks pain could be endo or scarring from my c section so he says he's going to clear all that as well as drill my ovaries which is supposed normalise hormones in people with PCOS. Apparently the ovulation success rate for at least a year after drilling is 90% which is around 50% better than clomid. Anyway fingers crossed.

My best possible outcome is that there is some scarring/endo that he can get rid of. I think I'll be a bit dissapointed if there's nothing wrong but that seems quite unlikely with the pains I'm still getting in my side.

He suggested that we don't go for IVF/IUI for at least a few months after the op becasue it may well be all I need. And even if I do need to go for treatment this op will maximise the potential of it working.

All that seems a million miles off at the moment though and being in your situation still seems like some unatainable amazing dream.

Oh forgot to say - it's going to cost at least £2,000 and the op is a day before my sister's 30th birthday party in London. I'm going anyway though. Can't be as bad as a c section can it?

Hope you're both looking after yourselves and getting plenty of rest.

xxx

Hi girls. Sorry been away. Having egg collection on Monday. Wish me luck!

Great news on your lap Summer. Sounds like you're getting a full MOT. Fingers crossed it works for you. Enjoy your sister's birthday party too.

How're things with you Ray?

God Issy that's come round quick. How have you found it all so far?

Will be thinking of you tomorrow. Let us know how it went as soon as you possibly can.

Got letter yesterday from hosp saying they want full payment of £2,640 by next week!!!!!!!! Thank God for credit cards I say.

xxxx

Hi Summer - thanks for your post on the AC thread. Sorry not been on here. Trying not to neglect Mary who came up to look after me and also trying to rest so not been posting on all the threads.

Check about paying by credit card - my clinic charges a percentage extra for that which came to nearly £100 for me, so I transfered money from my ISA to current account instead. When is your appointment?

God we were going to pay on credit card tomorrow so I'll definately check that.

Glad that your resting. Did I read somewhere about brazil nuts and red wine on the day of embryo transfer? Might be worth looking in to if you haven't already.

Op is a week Friday. Can't bloody wait although am more than a bit scared that they're going to find something really bad in there. A bit sinister having pain when you don't know what it is. Your imagination (mine especially) goes in to overdrive.

DP's birthday tomorrow so better go and prepare for breakfast fanfares. Told DS that I'd found him a card with a badge saying Farty Pants on it for his Daddy. He thought it was the most hillarious thing in the world and has been literally bursting to tell him all evening. Note to self - three year olds are not good at keeping secrets.

xxx

Hi Summer - I paid by credit card for my IUIs without extra charge so you might be OK. Did you enjoy DP's birthday? Hope everything is OK at your appointment. I know what you mean about your imagination going into overdrive though - mine has been mad this week.

I've had some good news today. All 8 of the fertilised eggs cleaved and 4 of them are looking right for day 3, 1 is growing too fast and 3 too slow, but none are written off yet. Still doesn't mean they'll make until Saturday, so more finger crossing still to do.

Two made it! They're now in my womb. Fingers crossed!

Hi everyone,
I have only joined , I have read all the comments on Clomid I am due to start this month as well, Myself and my husband have being trying now nearly a year i had a miscarriage last august, In a way i am exciting starting Clomid but also very scared but all i can do is hope for the best..hope to hear from someone soon..

Welcome sau. Clomid is OK - I hardly got any side effects at all. Drink plenty of water to keep the headaches at bay. Other than that I took Clomid for 3 months and only had one hot flush at night. Good luck.

Hi Issy

Just been on the conception thread to read all your news (feels rude - like reading over someone's shoulder!). So delighted that you've got two really good ones from the blast. Fingers crossed that they're both settling in for a good nine month stay.

They didn't do blast on my sister in law's embryoes. Why do they do that to some and not others?

Great news about Lottie too isn't it?

DP's birthday was good. DS and I made a cake for him and then we went with some friends to Go Ape this weekend which was loads of fun. Getting quite excited about Friday now. Just hope they find something that they can address.

Welcome Sau and good luck with the clomid. Other than some mood swings and a bit of anxiety (which I think was probably more linked to the winter than anything else) I was fine too. Only physical side effects were a bit of nausea. Do you have PCOS?

xxx

Thanks Summer. I don't mind you reading about me on other threads at all, but I know what you mean as I read one of the other threads if I see that Ray has posted on it, just to make sure she's OK, and it does feel a bit odd. Not all clinics do blast and the ones that do will only do it if you have enough embies to risk it. All 8 of mine made it to day 3 but only 2 made it to blast. Can't stop looking at the pics of them .

Yes it is fantastic news about Lottie.

Glad DP's birthday was good. Good luck for Friday.

Hi Issy and Summer.

Bad news from me i'm afraid have had a sa yesterday and baby died at 8 weeks need to have an ERPC next tues. Am completely devastated but have been here before so know i will get through it.

Thanks for following me Issy its nice to now others care what happens.
I am so pleased that you have had 2 little ones transferred i realy hope they make it, perhaps it wil;l e twins. When will you find out?

summer good luck with the op i realy hope it goes well.

Oh Ray, I'm so, so sorry . I really don't know what else to say, you must be devastated. (((hugs)))

My OTD is 15th May, but may well get AF as early as Monday as that's 14dpo.

Just after I wrote here yesterday, I had some spotting, so I used a cheapie test this morning so that I could be prepared for a scan I'm having later today giving me bad news (the scan is for a research project at my clinic) and all I got was an evap line. Knowing I would agonise over it, I used my last CB dig and I had to do a double-take because I got a BFP . Thank heavens for piap tests! It's obviously very early days (only 12 dpo) and I've previously tested positive the day before I got AF and also mc'd at 4w6days, so I'm being very cautious about it, but am currently very happy.

My temp was down this morning so going out of my mind. Did another test and still BFP. Totally confused. Feeling very deja-vu as I had pretty much the same temperature last time I tested positive but then got AF next day. It's about half way between yesterday's temp and my coverline and it is my usual sign that I'll have an even lower temp and AF next day. Just really, really hoping it isn't this time.

Issy CONGRATULATIONS.

I had a few temp dips after i had my BFP too so try not to worry to much (silly thing i know becoz you will).
I realy hope this works out for you please keep us updated at all times.

Thanks Ray - really hope you're right.

Ray - I'm so so sorry to hear your news. Like Issy I just don't know what to say other than I'm really thinking of you. Will they be able to give you any information on why when you go in tomorrow?

Issy - Congratulations. That's absolutely fantastic news.

I know that this is a million times easier said than done but do you think you could resist from temping for a few days just to try and give yourself a break from the rollercoaster? I don't know anything about it myself but I really think these things can do more harm than good sometimes. I'm just thinking about the amount of people I know who have been told during their pregnancies that their babies are too small, too big, have cone heads, have heads that are too small for their bodies (all true) and then their babies have come out totally fine. What I mean is - modern science is a great thing because it can really help people but in some cases it can just cause more worry because it doesn't always get it right. Your body's unique and maybe it's just reacting in its own unique little way. For now YOUR PREGNANT. Hooray hooray hooray.

Lap went well on Friday. Doc said my tubes were lovely and that there was absolutely no sign of endo or scarring around tubes. There was a bit of scarring on my uterus that was making it stick a bit to my abdominal wall which he fixed but said he doubts very much whether it was causing any probs with conception. He said my ovaries were very polycistic though and that the pain was probably caused by the that. So he's drilled my ovaries and has now suggested that we get to it for the next few months because now's our optimum opportunity if it is ever going to happen naturally. Off today as I think my recovery was hampered by the fact that I went to my sister's party on Saturday and got a bit drunk and danced plus the pain killers are making me feel a bit other worldly but think I'll be fine by tomorrow.

Thinking of you both loads. x

Ray - thinking of you today.

Glad your lap went well Summer. You'd better get hubby geared up for lots of bd'ing over the next few months.

My temp went right down to below my coverline yesterday but thankfully was right back up today, so have put the thermometer away! Still testing positive at the moment. My official test date is Friday, but when I mentioned that a girl in my team was going on maternity leave that day, they said I could test 2 days before or after, so am going to test tomorrow (even though she's actually going tomorrow instead now). Fingers crossed that I get another BFP and then it will be official.

Hooray hooray Issy. Just read on the other thread that you've got your official BFP. So so happy for you.

Just did second OPK since lap and got two lines. The test line is still marginally darker than the positive line but only just. What do you think? Sounds too good to be true as only five days post op and DP off to America for nine days tomorrow so just seems too conveniently well timed. Will bd tonight and tomorrow anyway but just wanted to get your opinions so that I don't raise my hopes too much if I'm being too optimistic.

Ray - hope you're ok today. xx

Sorry didn't notice your posts Summer. We're such a small thread we get lost below all the bigger ones. I hardly ever got a proper positive on OPKs - think because I drink so much water that even my fmu is quite dilute - so I always took the darkest line as a positive. According to the Great Sperm Race it takes sperm 14 hours to reach egg so I think your bd timing is spot on. Fingers crossed for you.

My dilute wee caused me more stress today. Had to do another official test today as have to do second one two days after first. Woke in early hours and did test so could use fmu, but could see was very dilute, then only got a pg 1-2 (at 18dpo). After 3 sleepless hours got up again and piap was much darker so used FR and line much darker than 2 days ago, so then did another CB digi and this time was pg 2-3. Phew!

Thinking of you Ray.

Bloody hell. That three hours must have been torture. Congratulations again though. You'll be at the acid indigestion and hooves for feet stage in no time.

How lucky is the AC thread at the moment?? Seems to be a new BFP every time I check it at the moment. They all seem like such a lovely group as well.

Good news here is I got a definate positive on my OPK the day after my last post. DP went to bloody America in the early hours but bd'd in the night and about 4am before he left at 6am so we'll see. Think I might have buggered it up a bit by having a bout of cystitis (due to lying with two cushions under my hips all night instead of going for a wee I imagine) and holding a hot water bottle to my stomach all night. Think I boiled all the swimmers! Anyway fingers crossed and send me over some of your luck.

Ray. Please let us know you're ok. Sending you loads of love. xxx

The people having accupuncture are always talking about having to keep the womb warm, so I'm sure your hot water bottle did more good than harm. Timing should be fine as sperm can survive for up to 10 days in the fallopian tube. Fingers crossed for you.

Yes, I've learnt my lessons from the other morning.

1. Throw away the wee if it looks too diluted as you'll only waste a test and worry yourself.
2. Middle of the night wee is not fmu and morning one will be stronger.

Unless anything worrying happens, I'm not going to test again now for a good while. Theoretically, I could get a 3+ on the conception indicator on Monday, but having got the 1-2 with the first try on Friday, I'm definitely not testing until at least next weekend and probably even later.

Getting used to not going into a blind panic everytime the sickness and sore boobs ease up, but not quite managing not to worry at all. I'll feel better after today though as it's 4w6d today and mc from 1st IUI was either at 4w5 or 4w6 (didn't have trigger so not 100% sure which day ovulated).

Worried for my friend today though, the one who used to stay with me often. She had her baby on Monday but he's been in intensive care since Thursday. I haven't been able to speak with her but spoke with her mum last night who mentioned heart problem and possible meningitis - she has a strong Thai accent so difficult to understand. I really hate to think of my poor friend having so much worry and stress and just want to drive down and give her a huge hug, but she's 2 hours away and is the kind of person who shuts down and wants to be alone when she's upset.

Sending you ((hugs)) Ray.

Oh no. How horrible for her. I can't imagine having to go through that at any time but straight after giving birth must be particularly difficult. My ds had to go back in to hospital at 4 days because he was jaundiced and seeing him all lonely in his incubator and not being able to fullfil your most basic instinct to comfort him was horrific. And that was just jaundice. I so hope everything will be ok for them. I'm sure they will.

Went to have accupuncture today and she said what with ovulating so soon after the op it was fairly unlikely that I would have concieved on this cycle. Oh well I can but hope.

Glad you've learnt your lesson. I know what you mean about feeling sick. I used to spend most of the day wishing it would go away and when if fleetingly did I would panic until it came back. Which it did - until 20 weeks.

xxx

(((hugs))) from me too Ray.