Start clomid tomorrow. Just read leaflet and I'm scared

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Hello

This is my first post on Mumsnet although I've been reading the conception threads avidly.

I'm due to start Clomid tomorrow and I've just been reading the lengthy side effects and now I've gone from excited to really scared.

Are they really that bad? I'm having visions of myself in a darkened room with pencils up my nose!

Any reasurances would be greatly appreciated. Headaches and hot flushes I can cope with. Insanity I can't.

Hi Ray,

Keep your chin up, those results could be good, it is a hard time for you but we are all here to help and support and i am sure your dh is too.

lots of love

Hey guys,

got bloods back and down to 12 so am miscarrying Fuck fuck fuck.

dont now what to think or feel am so angry that this was given to us and taken away just like that life seems so cruel at the moment. Dont think i can spend another 4 yrs ttc just to lose again. I give up i dont think i can do this anymore i realy dont. (sobs)

I may just have to get very very drunk at the weekend.

Oh Ray - I'm so so sorry. I know things seem desperate at the moment but try not to lose hope. Now that they will do investigations they may find something that is really easy to fix. I really hope so as you deserve it. Sorry if I'm saying all the wrong things, it so hard to know what to say. I'm just very for you.

Try and give yourself some time out and do something amazing for yourself that you've always wanted to do and won't be able to if you're pregnant (my friend booked a horseriding trek in some remote part of the world after her mc and I bought a ticket to go to Glastonbury for the first time after mine). It'll give you something to look forward to.

I know it's really hard, but try to do something to take your mind off it. I spent the entire Easter weekend, when I was having my mc planning an extension to my house (which I knew I would never be able to afford) just to take my mind of it.

And like pinkie said, we're all here for you. Take care of yourself honey and let dh spoil you. xxx

Hi Ray

I am so sorry, we have walked the path of clomid together, starting at the same time and all that, i can only say that i have been through the 3mcs and now how hard it is but you will carry to term

Give yourself some time and lots of wine and chocolate - am passing you both now

XX

Pinkie thanks for the wine and choc i feel like getting rip roaring drunk. or curlin up in bed and not emergying for days and days.

I just hope when they investigate that they find out what is happening. I have often wondered if i have has more mc as there have been a few times when i have been 2 weeks late but refused to do a test and then just had realy heavy painful periods, if thats the case this would make this like number 7 or 8. There is def something wrong with my body, its either the hormones or my body rejecting the pregnancy.

Heres a question we know people the are Reshus Neg have to have Anti D injections to stop them making anti bodies well i am Reshus Pos and Dh is Neg, what if DD is neg and when i gave birth i made anti bodies againt neg and thats why body is rejecting. I will have to ask the doc but it would explain the Mc wouldnt it?

Perhaps i am just clutching at straws probably am but its worth a try surley.

Hi all,

Ray - So so sorry to hear your sad news Must tell you though. My best friend is rhesus neg, her partner rhesus pos. Her body attacked her pregnancy with her son. I don't know all the ins and outs, but from what you've said, I definately think it's worth you enquiring about. She had a very problematic time. Am pleased to say it all worked out in the end but he was very ill and nearly didn't make it. Issey is right about planning something to do. You probably don't feel like it now, but it will help I'm sure. I hope I have not offended you in any way by what I've said, hard to say anything that will help.

Summer - sorry AF got you seems such a long time till Dec doesn't it? Wish we could just fix it for us all to have what we want.

Hi NHH and Pinkie too. Hope you guys are OK.

No news on me. We're on a three month break, feels like three years at the mo.

Love and hugs to all.

V x x x

Hi Vics,

Not too bad at this end. My OPK went +ive tonight so i am hoping for a bd fest next few days Then guess will be into the 2ww. Dont you just think thats the worst bit.

Only got one more round of clomid before consultant tells me what we do next, not sure if that will be break from it and then back to it or more investigations and into route of ICSI or IVF am hoping and praying that will get sticky bean before that

XX

Ray I really can't being to tell you how sorry I am. I was so excited for you. Wish we could all get together over a good few bottles of wine and support you through it. I wish I could do something to make it better for you I really really do.

I'm currently feeling fully mental. Not very good at coping with things durimg the winter months and all this really isn't helping. But back on the clomid wagon tonight plus I'm going to add some accupuncture, excersise, grapefruit juice and temping in to the TTC mix this month to see how that works.

Ray - could you afford some reflexology or accupuncture to help get you through this horribleness? I really attribute my DS to accupuncture and if nothing else it will help you relax and have some time out for youself.

Also (and I know I've said this before)just keep looking at your lovely miraculous girl because she's living proof that your body can do it. Why don't you have a lovely girly day with her this weekend and do lots of indulgent fun things.

Sorry - don't want to preach at you. I just really want to help you.

Issy -any clomid symptoms this month or all going well?

Pinkie -enjoy your bumping in the night. Definatley the best bit I think. Feels like you're actually doing something productive - which hopefully you will be in more ways than one.

Vicks thanks for your kind words. We'll get there. xxx

NewHereHelp - how's it going?

xxx

Hi all,

Just saw this thread and am really concerned for lollipop. Would you guys mind taking a look and seeing what you think?

Summermagic - only just taken my first clomid this cycle, so no symptoms yet.

Ray - I think your rhesus +ve/-ve theory could be right. AFAIK you should have injections after the birth if your child is the opposite of yourself to prevent later miscarriages, so if for some reason you didn't get them that could be the problem. I have a friend who knows more about this - she was either the child or the parent - unfortunately she's in China at the mo but I can ask her when she gets back.

Pinkie - good luck with the bedathon.

Vics - I'm sure three months will pass in a blink, esp with Christmas in there.

NewHereHelp - how are you?

Take care everyone.

Hi issy

Am being ultra nice to DH just so he stays happy, not that i am planning anything for tonight again.

You are very lucky no symptoms but i got away easy too, would just say lots of water too.

I had a look at the thread as the others did and hope she is ok.

It must be tempting to take things into your own hands but i really hope she is ok. Well spotted you.

Nice weekend to all

Hi all, well spotted with Lollipop Issey, I had some terrible pain when I took clomid for the first time and was told exactly the symptoms which warrant an emergency visit to the doc. I hate to say it but Lollipop has all of those symptoms. I really hope she gets it checked out quickly.

Hope everyone is OK. I am feeling pants so gonna get an early night before I shout at DP anymore

Speak soon,

Vic x x

Thanks for checking out the other thread. I was really worried for her, but didn't know if I was just overreacting, so glad you thought the same and posted and hope she got it checked out.

My clomid alarm has just gone off as I type. No headaches yet despite not drinking enough today, but I'm sure they'll catch up with me.

Hope you made up with DP Vic.

It's my cousin's wedding tomorrow and I'm staying overnight, so won't be on again for a few days.

Have a good weekend all xx

Hia

Everyone had nice weekends? Hope your weekend of bding went well Pinky and that you had a nice time at your cousin's wedding Issy.

Bloody caught conjnctivitis from my DS so looked horrific all weekend. Also felt really really down yesterday which was really scary because I just couldn't shake it. Feeling a bit better today though thank God. Worry that I'm losing my mind when I feel like that.

Just wanted to ask those of you who've done a few cycles of clomid what your periods are like on them. Mine was really heavy for the first day,lighter on the second and am now on my third day of intermittent spotting. Do you think that might mean that my uterine lining is too thin for any potential embryo to implant? Can they do anything about things like that does anyone know?

Ray - hope you're ok. xxx

Hi summermagic,

I'm ok i suppose finding it alittle difficult with the emotions at the mo, feel very tried and keep bursting into tears all the time. My mum is worried that i am getting depression but what the bloody hell does she expect seriously i know shes only trying to help but she hasnt a clue.

I know what you mean even with this misscarriage i have had 2 heavy days and today hardly anything which is making me wonder if there lies in the problem. I think thickness of lining is controlled by progestrone which is exactly what i think i am lacking and yes it can cause problems with implanation and miscarriage i ahve also had lots of clotting (sorry TMI) but i get that normally too and i think that can be a problem with implanation too.

I dont know what to do for the best at the moment, i havent taken the clomid obviously but from what i understand the 3 weeks after a miscarriage are when you are very fertile and i dont know whether to go for it and try the sperm meets egg plan again and see what happens or to wait for the investigations to see if there is a problem. What do you think summer?

The wedding was lovely thank-you summermagic.

I also have had really light periods since I stopped taking the pill about a year and a half ago - I used to have horrible ones before, which was the main reason I was on it. Also wondered whether that could be the problem, but they measure the womb lining thickness in the scan and it's always ok.

I think the way you are feeling is perfectly normal considering what you are going through Ray and you need to give yourself time to grieve.

I'm really not sure how I'm going to get through tomorrow (today now). It's the day the baby I miscarried in March was due and already I can't stop crying. Really wish I'd taken the day off work now. I'm staying up late to put off waking up.

Issy - how horrible for you. I hope you're bearing up ok this morning. I'll be thinking of you.

Ray - my head says wait for the tests but my heart says just go for it - but under the proviso that you do everything you can not to work yourself up about this one and just try to talk yourself in to thinking that it really is ok if it doesn't happen this month because they're going to do more investigations.

Totally agree with Issy that you need time to grieve so just let yourself do it.

Sending virtual hugs to you both.

xxx

Hi all

Summer - thanks for that the the bding was on with the Deanna Plan tonight is the night after last nights gap so DH should be full of energy .

Ray - i agree with the others, when i was waiting for the same tests i just got on with life, but didnt go on pill or "not" try just do as you feel and whatyur heart feels.

Have another look at what the plan says.

Lots of hugs

Hi all

Summer - thanks for that the the bding was on with the Deanna Plan tonight is the night after last nights gap so DH should be full of energy .

Ray - i agree with the others, when i was waiting for the same tests i just got on with life, but didnt go on pill or "not" try just do as you feel and whatyur heart feels.

Have another look at what the plan says.

Lots of hugs

What's the Deanna Plan? Is it the same thing as the sperm to egg thing that Ray does?

Hi guys,

Summer, yes it is the same plan as what i have done it was pinkie that mentioned it to me and its worth it as it worked .
I feel realy weird today, feel very sick and very dizzy and so so tired not sure whats going on but just wish that i would get back to normal already i know its only been a few days but i'm tired of all this moping. I didnt realy have that much of a heavy bleed so it cant be loss of blood or anything. Think i'll give it til tomorrow and see the doc if it doesnt pass.

i went out today to a friends and meant to be going shopping tomorrow and weds to help take my mind off things, so you think i'm doing too much and thats making me poorly?

I would say so. I know you said you're not loosing that much blood but your body must be awash with shifting hormone levels and that can make you feel really sick. I can understand exactly what you mean when you say you just want to get on with things but perhaps if you rest up you might improve quicker.

Right - I'm going to give that sperm egg thing a go then. Sound bloody exhausting!

xxx

Thanks summermagic. Good luck with the plan.

Good luck summermagic with the plan and yes it is bloody exhausting but worth it if it works. I didnt actually find it that bad myself and Dh thought it was great of course he would though wouldnt he.

I still feel abit shitty today, got a very bad headache and my back hurts alot in my shoulders but i think that is tension going to have a massage with next mon that may help to relax me.

Ive decided that i am going to go for it this month Fuck it it cant hurt surely and then at least i'll feel like i am doing something rather than sitting asnd moping.
I dont think for aminute it will work but it will keep my mind on something other than this loss. I realy think it was the clomid that did it so i am going to wait 2 months and then start again i have 4 months left so i think will do 2 months on and 2 off see what that does. Going to go with the sperm meets egg plan again to although may not do it as much this time just the 3 days in a row as last time we did it twice a day for 3 days, ive also thought as Af will be due arounbd christmas day (bitch) i hopefully wont be too rapped up in waiting for it as thats rather a busy time.

Ps you know that foot thing guys it has gone down now so there is def something to it .

Well off for some retail ytherapy see if it shifts this headache.

Hi everyone,

Hope you are all OK, feeling a little better Ray? Call me thick, what is the bloody sperm meets egg plan? I know I'm on a clomid break, but this might be handy info!

Love to all, Vic x x

hi vics,

the www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm sperm meets egg plan ]] is a method of conceiving that afew of us have decided to follow.

I have found it has helped me feel a bit more in control of ttcing. have a look and see what you think.