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Start clomid tomorrow. Just read leaflet and I'm scared

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summermagic · 16/10/2008 20:42

Hello

This is my first post on Mumsnet although I've been reading the conception threads avidly.

I'm due to start Clomid tomorrow and I've just been reading the lengthy side effects and now I've gone from excited to really scared.

Are they really that bad? I'm having visions of myself in a darkened room with pencils up my nose!

Any reasurances would be greatly appreciated. Headaches and hot flushes I can cope with. Insanity I can't.

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Issy42 · 25/02/2009 22:20

Hi Ray - Sorry about dd's birthday, how awful for her to get ill - hope she's better now. Saw your other post. So, so sorry you got AF . Hope the pancakes cheered you up a little bit. Really hope they found something that they can fix at your scan - weird going for a scan early in the cycle, isn't it? How did it go?

Glad the accupuncture worked for you summer - I'm too much of a coward to try it but lots of people swear by it when ttc.

Well they could see my dominant follicle at the scan today - didn't ask how big it was since it's going to waste anyway, but managed not to jump on any men hanging around outside, lol.

ray81 · 26/02/2009 11:11

Hey issy,

had scan and everything looked normal as predicted, god bloody damn it why cant they just find something and fix it !!!!

I started taking the clomid again yesterday and am going to try the SME plan again this month along with temping and checking CM. Hopefully all combined will increase our chances.

Just want to be at that point of trying now as feel quite bored with nothing to do.

Well done Issy for restraining yourself about asking about the follicle and also for not jumping on any men. Any chance with the ex sex this month ? you never know !!!!

Issy42 · 27/02/2009 23:58

Great news that everything's normal Ray, but understand your frustration at them not finding anything they can fix. In some ways I was hoping there would be something like that at my scan, so that I would have an explanation for the failed IUIs and mcs. Did you get the rhesus thing checked out? Fingers crossed the clomid and SME combined work for you this month.

I'm sooo frustrated today. Thought I'd ov'd on Wednesday as had temp rise yesterday but was back down today and had some EWCM for the first time in months. It's so annoying to know that tonight's the night and not have anyone to bd with. You've no idea how much self-control it's taken not to phone the ex and ask him to reconsider, but it wouldn't be fair to do that. He gave it such a lot of thought last month and it was a really difficult decision for him to make. I was so tired today I fell asleep for over 2 hours once I got in from work so at least that stopped me. (I'm now behind on my exercise programme though).

How're you doing summer? Has AF arrived yet?

summermagic · 02/03/2009 17:31

Hi girls

Yes arrived finally on Thursday on cd42. Had a blood test on the Wednesday to see if I'd ovulated and when I rang today they said I needed to make a non-urgent appointment which I'm pretty sure means they're going to tell me I didn't.

Got a scan on Wednesday to check what that fluid was because with a 42 day cycle it sure as hell wasn't there as a result of ovulation. Feel very dispondent about the whole thing.

Took ds to a party on Saturday and was chatting to one of the mums who has apparently been trying for a while for a second but has decided not to go down the assisted conception route so they've been accepted for adoption instead. They've been approved for a 18 month - 3 year old and should hear something by early summer.

Spoke to dp about it but he really doesn't like the sound of it for reasons I can fully understand.

Didn't take the clomid this month in the end. Already feeling anxious and didn't want to take anything that would add to it. Hopefully by next month I'll feel much jollier and will be up for another round.

Was your scan more detailed than a normal scan then girls? Can you just pay for one anyway? Think I might ask for one if so and maybe another one to check my tubes. They were fine five years ago but maybe they're not now.

When is it you start your meds Issy and what's your next step Ray?

Off to phone my friend who's just had the most beautiful baby girl now.

xxxxx

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ray81 · 02/03/2009 19:46

Hey summer, i cant believe Af arrived i was so hoping that this was your month. i'm for you.

I'm back on the clomid. Yesterday was my last day and am also now temping and checking Cm and OPKS. Following the SME plan as well.

I understand your feelings on adopton me and DH feel that way too.
I think it will be a good idea for you too get checked again alot can happen in 5 yrs. Go tot he docs and see if they will help if not probably best to go private.

summermagic · 04/03/2009 17:13

Hia

Had a scan today and the fluid around my right ovary is still there so they want to give me a laparoscopy to check it all out which sounds a bit scary but good in the sense that they'll have a much better idea of what's going on. I've got an appointment on the 24th of March with my consultant and then she'll probably book me in for one. Waiting list for NHS is at least two months though and although it doesn't sound much I really don't think I can wait that long because if I'm going ot have to go for IVF I want to try my hardest to do it in Summer so I can cope better with the whole thing.

Also had my bloods back and my count for my last cycle was 5.4 so I def didn't ovulate without the clomid. The scanner couldn't see any dominant follicles this month either and said my ovaries were very polycystic so I think IVF is becoming more of a reality every day.

I have everything crossed for you this month Ray. xx

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Issy42 · 10/03/2009 00:10

Hi girls. Sorry not been on for a while. This running lark is taking up so much of my net time . Sorry you got AF summer and that you need a laparoscopy. Hope it answers some questions for you.

You sound like you have everything covered this month Ray. Fingers crossed for you.

Take care both.

paddington21 · 14/03/2009 22:14

hello. im very new so im really sorry if i have posted on the wrong thread. am on 1st month of clomid 50mg on day 18. have my day 21 bloods soon have not been offered any scans or anything. had terrible side effects- nausea and just feeling dodgy. Am really hoping this works! have poly cystic ovaries well i tick 2 of the 3 boxes apparently- no periods a handful in my lifetime... well natural ones and i dont ovulate. apparently my something and something levels are normal- i dont really know but if its normal- meh! i hate home ovulation and pregnancy tests due to well the obvious i guess. i read a thread just before posting this about what people on mumsnet have learnt and a few were about bitchyness and mean posts so am tad scared of posting.

hope to all

any support or words of wisdom would be great

Issy42 · 15/03/2009 19:00

Hi Paddington, we're lovely on here so don't be scared, welcome to the thread. Been a bit quiet lately though. How is everyone?

summermagic · 16/03/2009 13:11

Hia Paddington. Welcome to the thread. We've never had any bitchyness and meanness on this thread so you can relax in the knowledge that you're among friends.

Hope your 21 day bloods show you ovulated. I'd just ring and ask for a scan next time if I were you and you want one - I do even though I don't think I'm supposed to. They usually do it around day 10.

I hate the home ovulation and pregnancy tests too. In fact I hardly ever do the tests I just wait for my period because I can't bear the dissapointment of that solitary little line.

Hia Issy. Not long til you start now is it? Are you getting excited? Did you see that research about accupuncture alongside IVF raising success rates to 64%. I should be bloody paid by the Institute of Acupuncture. I rave about it so much.

I am in a annoying limbo at the moment waiting for my appointment to decide whether they are going to go ahead with a laparoscopy or not. If they do I might just pay for it privately because I can't bear to wait another 3 to 6 months to find out if/what's wrong.

How's Pinky doing? Ray -where are you?

xx

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Issy42 · 16/03/2009 18:38

Hi Summer. Pinkie is due to have egg collection this week. Waiting for her to post on AC thread about her scan on Saturday.

I got AF last Friday, so start downregging on 2nd April for treatment around 28th. Feels real now so getting really excited.

I'm still not sold on accupuncture, but think it's just the coward in me .

Hope you get some answers soon. Can they do laporoscopy when you have AF? If not, you may get your appointment sooner if someone else has to cancel. That happened with my HyCosy, but don't blame you for thinking of going private. Fingers crossed for you. Do you know when your appointment is yet?

Take care. Hi Ray and Paddington - hope you're both OK.

summermagic · 18/03/2009 07:50

Ooh how exciting. That's really soon. Can't wait to see how you get on.

My appointment with the consultant is next Tuesday so I'll let you know how I get on. I'm starting to hope that the discomfort I get in my side isn't to do with my ovary because I don't really get it on the weekend only when I'm sitting at my desk all day so maybe it's a nerve thing. Oh we'll soon see. BDing every other day now but still no sign of ovulation! Bloody frustrating. Met a lady who'd been trying for a year and got pregnant the month her ovulation sticks said she didn't ovulate so I suppose there's some hope. Which is better than none.

xxx

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ray81 · 18/03/2009 14:33

Hi guys sorry i havent posted for a while.

well heres my story up to date (lots going on)

Took the clomid and started OPKS on CD10 also taking temp and charting Ovulated on CD16 as temp shot up after that. However my temps after Ov werent high enough and not going over the cover line so i started to do some research and found this was a sign of Low Progesterone, which would explain the infertility as it softens the lining of the womb so the egg can inbed, it would also explain why i fell on clomid before as clomid raises the progesterone slightly. Anyway i made an appointment yesterday to see the doc today and i was having sharp pains yeaterday in left side and i thought ' if my temp rises tomorrow in could mean implanation' not expecting anything to happen. woke this morning took temp and it had risen which would mean more progesterone at 7DPO when implanation happens and implanation make moe progesterone, so heart was rasing and im thinking i WANT progesterone Gel so i can be sure that i have done everything i can.
Well went to the docs fully expecting to have to beg for it and the doc was great she saw the rise and also thought it could be what i thought it was and understood that i was very anxious given the previous Mcs and the indocation of low progesterone after Ovulation so guess what she gave it to me !!!!to say i was shocked is an understatement, she also gave me 2 months worth so if it hasnt worked this month we can try it next month with the clomid. all very happy excite and scared at the same time. so all drama drama drama here.

issy cant belive you are now doing IVF i realy hope it works for you.

Summer i hope you get your +ive OPK soon and that it works for you this month i realy do.

Well must rush have to pick up DD from school.

clarexx · 23/03/2009 12:08

hey x
im clare been ttc for last 2 years sine i had a misscarrige i have jus been for a hycosy which was very painful b efor goin i was always told i had pcos however when i had hycosy they sed i neve but my left tube was slightly blocked but they managed to clear it so they sed i was fine didnt have any blood but 2 days later started bleeding i also got told to do the ovulation sticks and up untill yesterday sed i was still ovulating i spoke to my consultant on fri and explained everythin to him and he sed i could have intercoarse whilst bleeding bcos im ovulating an d its normall ... so did this even tho uncomfortable and nt very nice and im still bleeding and now iv gt slight cramping someone plz help im sooo confused x

Issy42 · 27/03/2009 14:14

Hi everyone, if you're still here.

Just popping on quickly during my lunch break to apologise for my absence. I'm going away for a week tomorrow so thought I'd better squeeze a quick post in before I go.

Welcome Clare. Sorry about your mc . I'm sorry I don't know much about PCOS/blocked tubes. Sounds like you might have an infection from the HyCosy, but cramping after is normal and I bled for over a week after mine and my next cycle was messed up too. I hope you managed to get some answers.

Summer - how did Tuesday go? I know a lot of people swear by accupuncture but there are conflicting reports about it possibly even hindering, so I think I'm going to leave it.

Ray - great you got the support from docs. Any news?

ray81 · 27/03/2009 15:59

Issy i got BFP 3 days ago and another yesterday.

Called EPU they were meant to get back to me and didnt so called them again and left message, they called back and have booked me in for a scan at 8 weeks but as the doc gave me the progesterone they wont do anything else not even blood tests they have told me to go back to doc for all that.
Am so and trying very hard not to cry. But i do have a BFP just need to get past 6 weeks and then hopefully everything will be ok.

summermagic · 30/03/2009 17:37

h my God Ray that's brillaint news!!!! Getting stressed and upset is NOT going to do you any favours so just relax and think positive thoughts. I so hope this one sticks for you. Sounds to me that you might have solved the mystery yourself.

Literally just had a text from my sister in law to say that her third round of IVF has just failed so a BFP sounds like a complete and utter miracle to me at the moment. I'm so so sad for her.

Have been referred for the laparoscopy now and I'm going to pay to have it done privately so I get it done sooner. Had some swabs taken and there's no infection there so discomfort could be IBS (but I don't think so) or lesions. Feel quite nervous about it but I just want to get it done now so that I can move on to the next stage. Had blood test to look at my mararial (?!) hormone count ahead of maybe going down the IVF route as well and have booked an appointment for the 2nd of June to discuss next steps after the lap and bloods come back. Feels like years away but I'm going to ring every bloody week to see if I can get a cancelation.

Keep us posted Ray and have a great holiday Issy. xxx

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Issy42 · 31/03/2009 21:51

Fantastic news Ray. Sending you lots of positive thoughts for a sticky bean.

Sorry about your SIL Summer. Good luck with getting a cancellation.

Must go now, promised myself I wouldn't come on whilst away as wanted to forget about ttc - at least until I start my meds on Thursday.

summermagic · 06/04/2009 11:53

Ray - you still hanging on in there?

My friend has just had a scan with Bupa after a miscarriage at 10 weeks a few months ago and they were able to tell her from that what her percentage chance of miscarrying this one was (1%). Maybe you could think about doing that if your still BFP and worrying.

Still bloody waiting for the bloody hospital to write my bloody referal letter to the private clinic so I can get my bloody lap over and done with. How fucking long can it take to write up a letter????????? I feel like asking for the notes and doing it myself.

Good hols Issy?

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Issy42 · 08/04/2009 21:56

Yes thanks Summer - a whole week in the Lakes with no rain - very lucky.

Any news from the hospital about your referral?

How's everyone else?

summermagic · 10/04/2009 22:41

Hia
Glad you had a good hols. All raring to go with the baby making now?

Got my referal now so going to see the consultant next Saturday and then hopefully have the lap soon after that. Had all our bloods and filled in the forms at the hospital now too so depending on what the op turns up we can start IUI or IVF soon after that. I think we probably will do one round of IUI before IVF if my tubes are ok because our consultant thinks it's worth a go seeing as my body has already managed it once.

Got a whole heap of family coming down for Easter and the house is a bloody tip so going to bed now so I can get it up early and blitz it before they come. I clean better under pressure.

Happy Easter xxxx

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Issy42 · 13/04/2009 15:42

Hi Summer. I presume you mean Sat 18th? Good luck, will be thinking of you. Good that your consultant is happy to move to IVF so quickly. I know I'm biased but I'm coming round to the idea that IUI is a waste of time, since the success rates are lower than trying naturally. Did get me pg briefly though so fingers crossed you'll get a sticky bean first try. Hope you're having a great time with the family. I'm trying to get motivated to clean the house and weed the garden, but the dr drugs are making me feel so low in energy.

I have my downreg scan on Thursday. Just got AF today so breathing a sigh of relief otherwise would have had to cancel scan and egg collection would have moved back at least a week. Just hope Thursday confirms that I'm OK to start stims then. I have a friend coming up from Brighton to be with me and she's just given up her job (as a nurse) so is temporarily signing on. As it stands EC is due in the week she doesn't have to be in Brighton. Otherwise I have a friend from work who is going to nip out for an hour to pick me up and drive me home and my ex is going to stay overnight, but I wouldn't have the full 24 hrs covered. Clinic hasn't actually told me I need someone there for 24 hrs yet, but I've read it elsewhere. It's so difficult when you don't know the exact day. It's just not practical for any of my friends to take two days off at such short notice. Hopefully I will be a textbook case and EC will go ahead w/c 27th as planned. Getting quite nervous about everything that could go wrong now, but trying to see the positive side. If my eggs are no good or there are none in the follicles, I can get on egg donor waiting list and will have two years to find a man before I reach the top of the list . Can't see a positive side to having to abandon before EC though, so really praying that doesn't happen.

How're you doing Ray? And Paddington and Clare? Happy Easter everyone.

Issy42 · 13/04/2009 15:46

Forgot to say - Pinkie has a BFP . Didn't post it earlier as thought she'd be on to tell you herself, but it's been a while now. Haven't seen her on the AC thread either so presume she's keeping her mind off it.

ray81 · 19/04/2009 12:48

Hi Guys,

I am hanging in there am 7+4 today and had a scan on fri, we saw a lovley little blob with a nice strong heartbeat so have managed to relax alittle now, we have never got this far before with the Mc so hoping this is a good sign. Have lots of symptoms, sickness, tiredness etc.
I start a new job tomorrow and not looking foward to it as its Mon tues weds and fri 9 til 6 and sat 9 til 2 so not sure how i will cope what with all the pg sysmptoms.

Issy How you doing with the treatment ? i am praying for a BFP for you.

Summer was it your appointment yesterday? how did you get on?

Issy42 · 19/04/2009 15:30

Great news Ray , such a milestone to get passed the viability scan. Good luck with the new job. First week's are usually quite boring anyway, so I'm sure they'll break you in gently.

Started stims on Thursday so two injections a day now. Plus an extra needle whenever I have a scan as they do bloods at the same time. I am really tired though, think it's a mixture of the drugs & not being allowed to exercise. I have my next scan tomorrow, so really hoping my ovaries have woken back up.

How was your appointment Summer?