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[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

Poor Caitni. It's awful when real life and ttc angst collide. But look, the other people on the email won't have any idea that you've been trying (well, some of them might guess but I think you'd be surprised how many experience delays and problems conceiving themselves. I'm finding more and more that people do understand...). It'll be ok. And as far as the goes, we all experience that as you well know. I am fully expecting to give birth to a small yelping green eyed monster any day now. I do know how you feel, though, when it is somehow extra personal. Next month is when my first ectopic should have been due and I am not looking forward to that one bit. I might just stay in bed with my fingers in my ears going "la la la la" through November.

hi ladies
just a quick one to say hello
im laying low today cos it is the anniversary of my first MC and im feelin a little fragile!! it has been 6 years i cant believe it its gone so quickly but seems like yesterday i was worrying about the bleeding and tryin not to think about things negatively cos it would never happen to me now 6 years down the line and 2 more mcs under my belt alongside a gorgeous DD things have changed since then so much...im sat here wondering why i still feel like this scared little girl when today comes around...and will i have another 2 of these days a year to "look forward" to?? this isnt a good look for me so i will be back on form and catch up tomorrow once i have had a sob good nights sleep xx
sleep well everyone]
xx ei xx

Hi Ladies
(((Higs))) for Ei. I hope yesterday wasn't too bad and that you're feeling more upbeat today.

This thread feels very quiet lately. Maybe we should move en masse to The Hut or something...

Not much going on with me today. I keep obsessing over my chart (desperately seeking signs of a bean but there are none!) which I shall post for your enjoyment .

Hope you all have a good Friday (I lurve Fridays...)

hi ladies > sorry about being such a gloomy gus yesterday
mrshappy had a look at your chart and it is still looking promising IMO how long is your usual luteal phase?? mine is anythin between 8-14 days so my knickerwatch starts today as i am now 8dpoi reckon you hold off til tomorrow morning and test again
i myself will be testing next wednesday if af hasnt arrived before theni have realised that it has now been more than 12 months since i had my coil taken out and we started TTC i know you lot have been going for longer it just seems strange that i have now 'known' you all for a year you have made my TTC life a mostly happy place
i hope everyone is doing well
il catch up more later
xx ei xx

Why thank you, Ei.
My normal LP is 13 days so I have 2 more to go before my temp would slump.
I do have some cramps and am feeling a bit sick, but my tum seems generally upset today (certainly my guts are evil) so I am not giving that any weight at all.

Got lots of things crossed for you this month, Ei. It's about time you got your sticky bean.

mrshappy it is most definitely sounding positive if it is a bfp for you this cycle will you have more close monitoring from your consultant?? i am soooo hoping you get a sticky bean in the right place this time
as for me me and DH BDed alot this cycle but it seems that we stopped just short of ov as we both fell asleep on the crucial day oh the glamourous life we lead
xx ei xx

Ei

Just crossed posts!

MrsH those symptoms sound good to me!! and Ei as long as there's bd-ing before ov then there's still plenty of chance of a BFP. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for BFPs for you both xxx

Ei if I get another BFP, I have to self-refer to the EPAU (cos GP is useless) and get a scan at around 6 weeks, although I can well imagine turning up at 5 and asking them to look a bit early. There's kind of not a lot else to be done. Either I get pg and it is in the right place or it is not. I wish it could be solved with some extra vitamins or something!

Stopping short by a day or two won't necessarily mean you've missed out. I have been very surprised to conceive once or twice when the sex took place a couple of days before the day when I think I ovulated. Women's bodies are odd and unpredictable sometimes...

I hope you have a great time with your brothers Caitni. And that the sun keeps on shining!

MrsHappy I had an implantation dip at 10dpo so it is definitely not over for you yet hun and the rise today looks encouraging... you are one hot lady !

Ei sorry you have been having such a rotten week {{higs}}, and you can definitely still conceive several days after BDing so you are still in it this month missus

Catini I know how you feel, we took 4 cycles which was pretty quick but even during that short time when anyone announced they were PG I was really gutted and , it is really difficult - hopefully be your turn to amke a wee announcement soon xx

mrshappy I dont have a clue about temping but keeping my fingers crossed that you have a sticky bean in the right place x

ei You are still in with a good chance this month

caitni Hope you have a great time with your brothers and its understandable to feel x

Hi to everyone else

Well DP and I have made up and I am getting a lovely pair of genuine ugg boots and a meal out on sunday to make up for it lol.
Its 5dpo for me and I havent really got any symptoms apart from sensitive nipples but I cant help but "feel" pregnant- I cant explain it and I will probably look like a fool when af arrives
I know that I must be kidding myself because I really dont think I will catch that quick and also I am not sure if my periods are back to normal due to my weightloss

RFN2 Well, that was well worth falling out with your DH for Hope your "feeling" is right, and you are pg. Can't wait until it's time for you to test!!

EI So sorry to hear you feeling down yesterday - although don't apologise for it - that's exactly what we're all here for - to listen to each other. Hope you are feeling a bit brighter today. I can't believe i have "known" you a year! Doesn't time fly. And you are 8DPO already fingers crossed for you for next week.

MrsH Thank you for sharing your chart. Since i stopped temping a few months ago, i miss it - so it was fun looking at yours Those are good high temps - lets hope they stay that way! Upset tummy is a good symptom too... (not that i want to encourage you in your obsessing, but i know you will do it anyway )

Caitni What an awful situation with your friend. Especially having her going on about how "awful" pregnancy is! We all here know that we'd give anything to be feeling "awful" like that. Hope you are feeling ok today, and that you have a lovely weekend with all the men in your life

Not much news here - just waiting for my scan Monday, and busy imagining everything that may go wrong! DH and i spent about an hour earlier thinking about names - he was getting so excited. I so want him to have the child he desperately longs for. Please let this ivf work!!

MOB lots and lots of luck for your scan on Monday. I'm sure it will be great and you can get on with the next phase. It's lovely that your DH is thinking about names - Eyes on the prize and all that!!

I hope your instinct is right, RFN2

My temps has started to fall now and, while my period is not due until Monday, I know I'm out this time because the last couple of times I've been pg my temp has been much more even than this time around. I'm starting to cramp a bit more too... At least we've got the clinic to see at the end of the month so that should give us a next step to focus on.

I hope you're all having a lovely weekend.

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hi ladies
mob im so happy things are moving along smoothly for you
shreksmissus lovely to see you where in aussie are you going??
mrshappy i hope your temp is just fooling you into a false sense of non-preggoness
i hope everyone else is doing well
so...not good news from me unfortunately it looks as if cycle 12 is upon me i started spotting earlier today and now it looks as if it is getting heavier so i will no doubt be on CD1 tomorrow im feeling quite philosophical about it to be honest the last 12 months have not brought me the best of luck so it is onwards and upwards from here i think
xx ei xx

Ei I'm sorry you think your period is coming. But we'll be cycle buddies from Monday and therefore guaranteed a pair of very very BIG fat positives.

Shreksmissus how lovely to see you. I was wondering where you had gone! I am very of your trip away. Where are you going? How long for? (Tries to have holidays vicariously)

I am feeling rough today having had an entire bottle of wine last night which is pretty unlike me these days. When we got home, my DD decided to wake up every hour screaming for me. She's now having a nap and I am wide awake. I'm not sure if it's the alcohol or what but my temp has gone up. I'm not going to test unless it is still high tomorrow though. I did have a wee bit of spotting yesterday (a pinky wipe really) but none since. All very strange...

Hello and higs to everyone else . I hope you're feeling less blurry than me!

OMG - I've just discovered that Wispas are a fantastic hangover cure. If only they hadn't been discontinued during my student days...

Hello my fellow WIMBEWAI[N]F friends,

I've had a thrifty day at a carboot sale today - bought a kitchen table for a fiver (had previously been thinking of spending nearer £200ish for the same thing!) so am feeling smug and embracing of the credit crunch right now!

Had my blood test on wednesday so will wait for a week for the results - am nervous but for random reason that all will be fine and I wont be offered anything.

How you feeling now MrsH? Wispas are surely a cure all for most things, no? Very pleased they're back!! Will be waiting for your next post tomorrow - am not going to say anything more about it (except that I'm cautiously optimistic for you ).

Was lovely to 'see' you briefly Bucky! How is everything in Bucky Towers? Hope the doggies are behaving themselves?

Will be thinking of you tomorrow Mob during your baseline scan. So so excited for you!!

Ei am sorry to hear you've had quite a tough time recently what with your DH losing his job and then the anniversary of your miscarriage. You're sounding very upbeat though - did it turn into cd1 today? Hope not. Big higs to you.

Lovely to see you Shrek How are you? Is this the big move to Oz you've been planning for a while? Where in Oz are you going?

R4N2 glad to hear you and dh have made up. Having a 'good feeling' is considered a symptom in this thread so will have my fingers crossed for you

Hows the weekend going with your fav boys Caitni? Sounds like you had a tough time with those emails flying around. Only a few select people know we are ttc (although I'm gradually getting more and more open with friends as find the response 'we've been trying for nearly 2 yrs, suffered 1 mc and are currently waiting for a fertility referral' tends to shut up the most persistant of 'when are you 2 gonna have children then' questioners ).

Good to hear how you're getting on Mibbes and JB! Wow at how close its all getting!! Getting excited at the prospect of being a cyber auntie again

JG HOW ARE YOU??! Hope all is ok and things are good with you and MrJG? We miss you around here! Big higs!

Am currently cd39 and am getting a little bored of waiting for af to arrive. I'm expecting it to arrive next week sometime as have very sore boobs. The most annoying thing is that we managed to bed, just the once, when I had ewcm last week so I'm still symptom spotting even though the chances are EXTREMELY thin. Old habits die hard!

Was thinking about the fact that when we started this whole battle journey I was obsessive about working out possible due dates, constantly checking 'early pregnancy symptom lists' etc whereas now I just can't be bothered. Well, its more that the futility of it all is too painful. Ah well....

Morning Ladies

Picknmix I reckon your GP sounds very clued up so hopefully she will get you where you need to be, regardless of the outcome of your blood tests. I would be nervous too I must say. Old habits die hard with the symptom spotting, hey? I have found it impossible to stop myself this cycle even though judging from my temps (compared to the last few times I have been pg) I am not pg, I know I ovulated on my bad side and we only had sex a couple of times around then.

Ei did your period show up or do you have something nice to tell us?

Caitni did you have a good weekend with your brothers?

I'm thinking of you today MOB

I hope all is well, RFN2, JG, Bucky and our lovely pregnant ladies.

My temp is still above the coverline albeit lower than I would expect if I were pregnant and I have a fair bit of cramping. I am at 14dpo and usually have a 13 day LP so am expecting my period today. If it stays away I am not going to test until 18 DPO because if I am a bit pregnant but it is failing (as could be indicated by my temps) I just do not want to know. I'd rather just have my period arrive and assume that I had a funny cycle.

BBL, have a good day. Don't forget to tell us how your scan went MOB.

Hi ladies

RFN2 well, sounds like your DH is doing his best to make up for his splurge! Hope you had a good meal yesterday

Mibbes I think that any woman who takes longer than a month or two gets at the news of others' pregnancy!

MOB am thinking of you today with your scan - fingers firmly crossed it shows that it's all systems go with the stimulation phase!! Can't wait to hear about it when you log on and catch up xx

Shreksmissus so sorry to hear about your anniversary and am hoping that sod's law works for you and you're nice and nauseous with morning sickness when you head down under!

Ei sorry to hear AF arrived...it's always horrible when that happens. I'm glad you're being positive about your future chances - I think you'll get a nice BFP before too long and your consultant will make sure the bean sticks xx

PnM wow at your thrift! I love things like that - we decided to only source second hand furniture where possible when we moved to Brighton in the summer and we've found some real bargains (including cool 60s g plan dining table, matching chairs and nest of tables for less than £100 - checking out what they sell for on ebay made us feel v smug!!). I know what you mean about checking things like due dates and early preg symtoms - i used to do that loads when starting out and now just not really bothered...figure it'll happen when it happens (having said this I do still obsess about symtoms!). Let us know how you get on with the results on Wed xx

MrsH have you been comparing your charts to preg charts on FF? That's what I'd be (obsessively!) doing if I were you as temps can affected by so many things - sleeping with your mouth open or the covers slipping off. If AF stays away (hope it does!!) then I think you're wise to wait til 18 high temps. Not sure if I'd have the willpower myself . I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for you xx

to Bucky JG JB and all our other pregnant ladies and any other lurkers!

Well, I had an excellent weekend. My brother and his boyfriend were over because of a VW camper van rally that was at the seafront (they're thinking of buying one) and twas fab! Myself and my DH are now planning to hire an old camper van and go away to Cornwall or Wales or somewhere at Easter. I know it seems ages away but I love having holidays/weekends away planned! I also, rather smugly, managed to stay on the non-drinking wagon and am now actively enjoying not drinking (I seriously thought I'd never type that!!).

For the first time, Fertility Friend moved my ov date a bit this month - from CD 10 to CD 12 - and, also for the first time, I decided to override the wonder that is FF and make it CD 11. I never normally fiddle with temps, but I am almost convinced that CD 11 (my usual day) was the day I ov'ed this month. Doesn't really matter I suppose, but am going to have to bear it in mind in case I'm a little late this month (which would make my ov date later).

And in other news, we've also booked in to see our GP on 1st Nov to talk about ttc (gulp! am nervous already...). We're planning to go to a couple of open evenings at fertility clinics in Nov, so want to explore what the NHS can offer us before rushing off to spend £££ on private treatment!

Hi all hope you are all doing well

We have had a good weekend and had a lovely meal out and did some shopping.
My boobs are quite tender at the moment but that is a usual for me and apart from that I have no other symptoms.
I think I am going to regret saying that I feel pg because I dont anymore and have a feeling that af will arrive bang on time

Good afternoon everyone

shreks lovely to see you as always I love it that you always pop back to see us. i can't believe that it is only a few weeks to go until you go to oz. I am still holding out hope that you will get a really inconvenient BFP! (So when you go and get that new sack of babydust, make sure you throw some over yourself too...)

EI Was it CD1 for you yesterday?? Of course i hope not. Whatever, i hope you are ok, and i am sure that the next few months will herald a reversal of fortunes in your ttc journey!

MrsH LOL at your hangover cure! I didn't realise wispas were around again. Hope you are fully recovered today. I peeked at your chart again, as you say, your temps are still above the cover line, so i really hope your period doesn't show today.

PnM Wow, am impressed with your kitchen table - what a bargain! I'm pleased you have had the blood test already, try not to worry about the results, as that dr sounds good, and will surely refer you even if the results appear normal. Am also very slightly excited that you are CD39...keep us posted!

Caitni Sounds like you had a lovely weekend. Great plan to hire a camper van and go away next Easter. I think it's important to always have something nice like that in the pipeline to look forward to! Glad you have booked a GP appt and that you are exploring all the options.

RFN" I'm sorry to hear that you think it is all over this month. Don't give up hope though - and if it is bad news, don't forget we are here to spur you on for the next cycle!

Well i am back from my first scan. It all went fine (despite me spending half the night awake worrying that they would find something terrible ) My womb lining was very thin (which is what they want at this stage) One of my ovaries was visible and looked good. She couldn't find the other one, which she said is quite normal, as at this stage they are not very easy to find. As you can imagine i am now worrying that i have spent all my life with one ovary However she said the one she could see has more that enough follicles to produce the required number of eggs. The scan was uncomfortable and undignified (internal scan whilst still bleeding quite heavily) but was fine. I have now come away with all my drugs and start injecting tonight . I really am having IVF!!! I have another scan in a week to see how the follicles are growing, and if i respond well, then egg collection may possibly be a week on Friday, or failing that, the following Monday.

Oh wow MOB. Did they give you lessons on how to inject? Are you nervous about doing it? I am quite needle-phobic but I reckon that if I end I doing IVF I will get over my phobia pretty quickly. So glad that the scan went well and that you have a good looking ovary. Bet the other one is just as good! Just think - 3 weeks from now you could be pregnant!

Don't give up hope, RFN2. When I conceived my daughter I was absolutely convinced that I was getting my period and then it never showed up. Not feeling pregnant doesn't mean anything and I still have my fingers crossed for you.

Caitni I love the camper van idea and am a bit . Can you post your chart so I can have a nosy? Am a bit chart obsessive. BTW, I did have a look at FF charts this evenign but ones like mine are few and far between. I think my period is on its way but that maybe I ovulated a little later than FF thinks. Am cramping all over the place and have been spotting for a couple of days already which is v unusual for me. think this migth be quite a bad one when it shows up...

I'm so impressed with the thrift PnM. I am quietly crossing things for you too. It does only take the once, y'know, especially when your DH has super sperm...

MOB oh I'm so happy to hear the scan went well! Hope you're proud of your good-looking ovary . I kind of hadn't realised you'd be injecting so soon - that is very exciting, but also makes it all so real. As MrsH said, you could be pregnant in a few weeks! God, I'm going to have finger cramp from all the finger crossing I'll be doing

MrsH I'm also a chart obsessive - hope this is my chart here. I did fiddle a little, as CD 11's temp was about 0.1 higher than I have it here (as you can see, obsessive ). Your temps are still a reasonable bit above the coverline, and, while I know the coverline's a visual tool only, that's a good sign. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you too missy!

RFN2 I'm glad to hear you had a lovely weekend! And I hope AF stays away - MrsH is right, lots of women think AF's on its way and it's actually the womb getting geared up for a nice healthy pregnancy - I'm hoping you're one of those women!!

Caitni I agree with your interpretation of when you ovulated, even allowing for the fiddling. TBH I think I may have ovulated a day after FF thinks, so I might not actually be due until tomorrow. But then I would have had spotting since about 10 or 11 dpo and that would be depressing...