The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

scary - yup, I was equally at the lack of adequate insurance and sympathy. My mum summed it up best when she said "Well, I don't know why he is being so precious if he couldn't be bothered to insure it properly and the main thing is that you are ok!". It was not a new or valuable car - no point in central London, with on street parking - but he's behaving like it is a bleedin' Aston Martin.

just don't need this further hassle

Oh GG what a stressful thing to happen . Am just glad you're OK (and no one else was hurt). That's the main thing, as a car's just a car after all. I hope it's just your DH's shock that caused his reaction. Am also on your behalf that he hadn't insured it fully.

SH good luck tomorrow - let us know how you get on. And remember, you have a right to know what's going on with your body so don't let them fob you off to you too xx

Afternoon to everyone else
xx

scary good luck at the consultant tomorrow. You know your own body and TTC is causing you anxiety, so I am sure he will be symathetic. Let us know how you get on. Do you have all your questions ready for him?

GG Really glad you are ok obviously however....I am disappointed in you too . A whole coach of football fans? Could you not have been more selective and crashed into, I don't know, Brad Pitt maybe????? And also you need to sneakily look on the bright side, glass half full and everything, you get to get rid of the uncool wheels and get something rocking....woo hoo . Thank God he did not have fully comp insurance, you would have had to keep it!!!. Maybe, DH thinks its all part of the masterplan to shake of the shame of crusing round in a 2CV or whatever it was . You know I'm kidding....I'm sorry he is being such a meany. Maybe its like those matchbox cars that boys have, they get all obsessed with them without anyone knowing and then when you accidentally stand on one they go ballistic . I have done that on several occassions with DP's Minichamps (more accidentally pushing them off the shelf than standing on them but its all the same thing). He doesn't look at them from one year to the next then when, whoops...Bucky accidentally sends one flying with her feather duster its the end of the world .

I am falling asleep on my keyboard today. DP is working in Blackpool, Leeds, Bristol and Reading this week so he keeps getting up at 5.00am, which means I have to as well or the dogs go loco. Finn has to go back to school this weekend as he is being naughty too.

Welcome back from hols/break Caitni and Scary and yoohoo to everyone else out there. Ei are you OK?

P.S. No disrespect meant to anyone on this thread who is the proud owner of a 2CV.

Oh and good luck tomorrow scary.

Thanks for the good wishes guys. No, GG, I definitely have not sorted out questions, I'm going to have to wing it!
But I will definitely be talking about the backache and cramps I have before my period every cycle which are getting worse over time...

hi ladies
no nes from me as yet no AF but it does look like i may have ovulated really late this cycle (CD24) which now makes me 7DPO instead of 16DPO so it would be far too early for BFP yet anyway i decided to have a look at my chart on FF as i was getting BFNs and no sign of AF and i discarded the one high temp i had which FF said was ov and it changed my ov and gave me a really high coverline (for me anyway) i have no clue what is going on and i keep feeling like AF is lurking but it turns out to be CM and just dull cramping so who knows!!
scary good luck for your appointment tomorrow
GG AGAIN??? i hope you are getting frequent traveller points this unusual tiredness couldnt be a symptom could it?
bucky i hope you are doing well sorry about all your early mornings. i hope finn starts to behave for you
PnM i hope you are feeling ok and im glad you decided to stick with us
hi to everyone else not mentioned >>
xx ei xx

Where is PicknMix actually . We haven't seen her since last Friday .

Ei Its good AF has not turned up. You are back in the game...yay. (not that it is a game , IYKWIM....)

Ei - I ovd on CD24 this cycle too (wierd, huh?). There's clearly a lot of it about. It makes me CD6, but that has not stopped me peeing on sticks...

PnM I hope you're ok.

Hello

Ei I just realised that I have a strangely high cover line as well. Are you sure you're not me?

I also just noticed that DH and I only did the business 2 days before my temp rise and not the day before or the day of. So I reckon we have no chance at all. WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO GIVE US A BREAK???

(Apologies for shouting, have had enough)

Evening all

SH any news?

Hope all's well with everyone else.
xx

hi ladies
well i am totally clueless about my cycle now!!
my temp was low again this morning and i put it into FF and it took my lines away i undiscarded my first ov temp and it gave me back my cd15 ov lines and all my temps are still above the lower cover line whilst i ad a few below the other higher one. i got home went the toilet and i had brown/redish blood and loads of mucous (TMI sorry) and i went before and it stopped pretty much altogether im gettin annoyed with this now but i dont want to waste another test on a bfn just to check so im gonna wait til the weekend to test again if af hasnt turned up
scary how did your appointment go? well i hope mine is in 2 weeks time so is there any tips? any questions i should remember to ask?
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Ei at your cycle. Is there any reason to disregard that first high temp that gives you the early ov date? I find FF pretty reliable, so unless there's a good reason to disregard it then it sounds like there's a good chance you are late [fingers crossed for you emoticon]..hope you get an answer (which ideally is a nice thick BFP!!) soon. I'd never have enough will power to not test again until the weekend btw!

caitni i only disregarded it to see what FF would do and it gave me a new ov date but it looks like the first was more reliable anyway!! i am very late now (almost a week) according to the first ov date so who knows i am having rather harsh cramping tonight and the spotting has stopped for now so i will update everyone tomorrow with any changes how are you getting on anyway?
xx ei xx

Oh Ei if that first temp is reliable then it sounds like you're pregnant to me . Glad to hear the spotting has stopped (it sounded pretty light?) and hope the cramping stops. Any other symptoms (smell, taste...that kind of thing?). I'm getting excited for you xx

Things same old same old with me - my post ov temps are at the same place they usually are (I know I'm not supposed to take too much stock in individual temps but still). We're off on holidays next week, so not too bothered (we've got a wedding to go to and I wouldn't mind some guilt free tipples!). It's almost like I've taken the month of August off ttc iykwim

night night for now and I'll be checking back in to see what your news is.
Caitni zzzz

ahhh caitni thanks for being so positive about my symptoms etc
dont forget preggy cycles start off the same as any other you know and if you have taken this month off ttc this may turn into your cycle relaxed mind and body etc good luck to you nighty night
xx ei xx

Wow ei - fingers crossed. Have you had any more psychic dreams lately? My dreams are all very weird: two nights ago I dreamed my boobs started leaking for no reason. Last night I dreamed that dr told me the reason I am not pregnant is because I eat too much salt, so I woke up today resolved to avoid crisps at all costs! This is clearly becoming an obsession...

The Dr was fine, thanks. We had a wee chat about everything that's happened. He thinks it is likely that my tubes are scarred from the cs and also the ectopic and that I may well have some endometriosis. He suggested that they could do a lap which might improve things (because they could treat the scarring/adhesions/endo), but I am chicken about surgery so am not sure. And, for example, if the only solution was IVF I am not sure I would go that route because it seems so rigorous, so that kind of reduces the point of having a lap.

Anyway, he's left my file open so if I want to go back and get a lap or need to talk again in the next 12 months I can call directly without going through the GP. Which is pretty reassuring as I really wanted to find out what my options are. I think I will give it until Oct/Nov and see what happens naturally first...

Hello to the rest of you. I hope you're ok.

Hi everybody,

Apologies for not being around - needed a few days off from all things ttc related.

Still feeling a little bit unsure about things but couldn't leave you guys for any longer...!

SH its sounds like you had a very good appt yesterday. I think your decision to leave it until Oct/Nov to give things a chance naturally is a good idea. You still have the option of the lap open to you and you can cross that bridge when if you come to it (fingers tightly crossed you get your bfp before then). So pleased you came away from the dr feeling like they've actually answered some questions for you.

How are you feeling GG?? Sorry to hear about your car accident - must have shaken you up a little bit? Pleased to hear you're ok though. Grr at your DH's reaction, agree with your mums sentiment! I reversed my DH's car into a bollard the other day - luckily the bollard stopped me from reversing into the duckpond outside our house for which my DH was entirely grateful (mainly because this meant I didn't take out Mrs White Duck and her babies - he has his priorities sorted, not worried about me, just about the local wildlife ). Af is due tomorrow isn't it? How are you feeling?

Bucky how are you doing?? Still tired out from your DP's early rises? Naughty Finn-Dog - hope boot camp sorts him out this weekend .

How is the first week at work going Ei? (it was this week you started wasn't it??). No idea what is happening with your chart - its difficult to know whether to keep that early high temp or not. Hope the spotting hasn't turned into anything else and that your bfp is just around the corner - I have my fingers crossed for you!

DG fabulous to 'see' you!!! 34 weeks already? Sorry to hear you're suffering with SPD though - sounds painful, hope the accupuncturist helps.

Caitni good to hear of another Kevin fan - I love the man!! How are you feeling? Hope your relaxed attitude this month does the trick. Where are you off to on holiday?? I'm on holiday this week (holidaying at home ) and the weather has been appalling! I had my job interview on Monday and then various family visits since then so don't actually feel like I'm on holiday at all!

My SIL and her family are over at the mo (they liove in Canada) and I have spent a few days with them and their 3 children (3 kids under 3 years, crikey!!). Its tough but fun. Feel dreadful because I can't help the sneaking thought 'how can she [sil] manage it 3 times in 3 years and I can't even do it once'. My fragile mind can't really cope

Hi to anyone I've accidentally missed and a big hello to all our preggers ladies, hope you are all doing ok??

Am off to weed the garden and make it child friendly enough for the nieces and nephews as am due to have a bbq tomorrrow (weather permitting!)

xx

Hello everyone,

GG I hope you are feeling OK after your horrible accident. I second what others have said about the car insurance! If it was THAT precious he would have insured it properly. Honestly!

PnM Sorry you are feeling so down. It is perfectly natural to feel a bit of your SIL popping out children like she is shelling peas! Hope you have a good bbq tomorrow

ei What a weird cycle. Have you tested at all? Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

SH The Dr sounds really nice and helpful, and it is good you have some breathing space to decide what you want to do.

Bucky Poor you with the 5am starts! Finn hasn't been eating your shoes has he?

Hello DG wow, you are nearly there! How very exciting. Hope the SPD gets sorted out, it sounds very painful.

I had my 20 week scan yesterday and everything was fine . Jollycub was uncooperative and wouldn't turn round though! My scan picture features the back of it's head and spine. DH thinks it must be shy!

Hello to anyone I've accidently missed,

Good morning!

Higs all round - i've missed you all!!!

Lovely to see our pregnant ladies popping back - abby; DG; mibbes; JB; hatty; MTW. It's always great to hear your news. abby i'm so pleased the scan was fine, after such a worrying start to the pregnancy. I love GG's idea that you all pop back for the 2ww and symptom spotting - allbeit for a slightly different reason

PnM I am so sorry that you have been feeling so down. It is understandable that you may need a break from TTC and from the thread. I hope you don't stay away, of course, but realise why you may need to. I think it is strange but wonderful that we seem to have been all drawn together on this thread - all of us struggling in some way with ttc. I totally agree that it is heartbreaking when people join us and then wander off a few weeks later with their BFP. Not that i begrudge them that in any way, of course. But it hurts. All of our journeys here are different, but we are all in it for the long haul, and we will get each other through everything. We all know what it feels like to feel absolutely crap. Lots of love and higs to you. XX

GG you sound down too. It is not surprising - it sounds like the reality of the ICSI and what it all means has just hit you. And working those incredibly long hours too. Sounds like you need some relaxation. Isn't your holiday coming up soonish?? I'm and at your DH's reaction to the car accident! He should be grateful that you were ok!! What team were the fans going to watch?? Who knows - you may have brought them luck - all the teams will be after you!!!

Bucky you sound tired, with all those early starts. What has Finn done which means he's got to go back to school?

SH I'm so pleased that the appt went well yesterday. It sounds like the Dr really listened and took you seriously. You can now take some time to think things through, and decide if you want to have the lap. Hopefully you will get a BFP soon and won't need anything.

lou good to see you again. I'm glad your DH's results were more positive. Hope you have a lovely holiday.

Caitni Sounds like you had a fantastic time in Cork! And off on "proper" hols soon as well!! You are getting as bad as GG Hope your period doesn't arrive, and you can't enjoy your guilt free tipples!! Fingers crossed for you.

EI You poor thing, it sounds as though your cycle is all over the place. I couldn't wait to test if i was a week late, but you must do what is right for your, and i know you have been in this position too often before. Thank goodness you have your appt in a couple of weeks. Look after yourself.

Well, we are back from our hols now. We went to Devon, so it was WET!!!! Still managed to enjoy ourselves and have fun, but it somehow doesn't feel like we had a holiday.

I thought that going on holiday might help how i was feeling with regard to ttc, but it just made it worse. I suppose that i had more time to mull over things, whereas normally work,and life in general, stop me thinking too much. However, we have now made a positive step forward. I made contact with the private clinic near us (there is little point continuing with the NHS as they won't fund treatment anyway) For £160 DH is having another SA, and we will have an hour long consultation with the doctor to discuss treatment. Well worth it, i think. DH is providing the sample on 29th, and we are seeing the dr on 1st sept. She said that they can actually get the SA results within an hour or two!!! I feel so much more positive now, and who knows, maybe our dreams may actually come true.

Took me so long to write that - JB & PnM have posted in the meantime!

JB so glad the scan went well. If jollycub is uncooperative - must be male

PnM good to see you back. How did the interview go? Is this for a job similar to what you do already, or a change of direction? It must be lovely but very hard having your nephews & nieces around at the moment. Do take time out if it gets too much.

ahhh, everyone is back in the fold . .

JB Sorry Jollycub turned his/her back to you, maybe he/she thought the doctor was going to poke him. That's what we have to do when Finn and Molly jump anyway, turn our backs to them. 20 weeks already , it's soooo exciting. I can't wait till our cyber neices/nephews are born. We will have the biggest cyber family ever!!

SH Glad the appointment went well. I can totally recommend a lap....NOT..... Nah, just kidding, all the blood and dye wasn't so bad, positively delightful experience . Well, OK it wasn't super fun, but it was worth the peice of mind it has given me. Now I know there is a disgusting tumour inside me instead of not knowing there is a disgusting tumour inside me . Sorry, I am being an arse today. You should do what you feel most comfortable doing, but I have heard lots of stories about how lap and dyes can clean everything out and they can do a spring clean whilst they are in there too. And, its only a tiny hole, you saw mine. Hardly dramatic was it? And that was after my tales of woe! .

Big shout out to DG I forgot, duh. I will harass you for lunch again soon.

MOB great to have you back. Sorry it feels like you haven't been on holiday , but the proactive steps have you sounding much more positive, which can only be a good thing.

Ei Huh? Wassup dude? . Maybe the spotting is implantation? Fingers crossed anyway. I still have my positive feeling for this month.

Rahrahrah for PicknMix's return . What's with all the crashing recently? Glad the duck is ok...hee hee, and you too obviously only teasing! I am in a kerazy mood today. Lack of caffeine and alcohol I think.

Caitni Did you go to the Oak and do some grooving to the Irish tunes for me? I was saying to DP that we need to return to the Emerald Isle and go to Kinsale again. I loved Kinsale, it was all idylic with little perfect families ahhh. Maybe its YOOOOUUU...> that is going to get the BFP this month .

And last but not least MsGin, where are you....have you bought that Aston Martin DBS yet? I think it comes with a Daniel Craig for free . Are you feeling better poppet. Maybe you need an Aunty Bucky lunchette pep talk .

Ah well, me time. 6dpo here. I have massive bacon sandwich cravings and extra CM (not together you understand...). Tiredness has gone a bit with a good night's sleep so I don't think it was a symptom. And well generally I am in a brilliant mood. The low GI diet has kind of fallen on the wayside although I have not eaten a biscuit in 22 days. I really wish it would happen for me this month, I have really made an effort , well, as much of an effort as I am capable of with my severe lack of willpower. I have had no gin, no caffeinated coffee, no tap water, extra fluids, have sporadically remembered my FA, have had accupuncture, BD'd every two days for two weeks before and after OV, walked more ate less rubbish and more fruit and veg, and its the cycle after my Lap spring clean....surely if there is a God it will be my turn?????.

Oh, Finn keeps barking at other dogs and I cannot hold him anymore, he is too strong. So I have to go to training to be able to control him . No, JB, I only wish it was my shoes this time!

Great to hear the scan went well JB - at your shy Jollycub!!

Lovely to have you back MOB although sorry to hear your holiday was a little damp! INWYM re having too much time to think about things although I'm uber impressed with your pro-active attitude and deffo think the appt sounds like a positive thing to do. Sounds very reasonable. I have been looking into private care but am not having much luck so far!

Bucky I think the lack of caffeine/gin/biscuits is finally getting to you !! Although I did laugh out loud at the thought of your bacon sandwich craving with a side order of CM . On effort alone you definitely deserve your BFP this month - I shall be crossing all possible limbs in an effort to will your bfp to turn up next week. Wish I could say I was as committed as you - all things ttc have somewhat gone to the wayside this last week. Shall attempt to jump back on the wagon before critical time though.

The interview was for a completely different career - feel the need for change at the moment! Although I'm pretty sure I wont get the job and, bizarrely, even if they offered it to me I prob wouldn't take it. The targets they were setting were completely unachievable and, with my lack of experience in the field, I would be gobsmacked if they even considered me. Twas good experience though, pleased I went.

oooh Caitni just went and stuffed myself in the park by Exmouth Market. I was sitting at the picnic benches by myself and some girls who work where you work were sitting next to me talking. Anyway, it turns out that they put appointments in their diaries for work type meetings and then go for manicures/pedicures/thorpe park etc. . How naughty is that??? I sat there as long as feasible waiting for a name but they never mentioned them...

BTW I feel sick now. I ate SOOO much albeit vegetarian but I topped it off with a Mocha Frapuccino Light. Do they have caffeine?

Hello again *Jollybear", it's so nice to hear that you and the little cub are doing well. LOL at it being shy. Are you going to have any more scans or is that it now?

Welcome back MOB, I've missed you. Good for you being proactive and looking into all that private business. I think that taking some control can be terribly important in making this dreadful ttc process seeem manageable. Yesterday when I saw the Dr he was at pains to point out that if I do ever decide I want IVF I will need to go private as the NHS will not generally fund it for those of us who already have a child. Which is all well and good and I understand it from a funding viewpoint, but I could imagine it being a very harsh policy in some circumstances...

Bucky you make me laugh. Evesdropping indeed (tut), but WELL DONE YOU for not having a biscuit for 22 days. Biscuits are basically crack cocaine for the ScaryHairy. Not a day goes by without me having a biscuit and there is hardly a variety I will not inhale. I think the bacon sarnie cravings and lashings of cm sound like definite symptoms. If that spring clean did the trick you can bet that I will be booking in for a lap before the end of September!!! (And I bet many other ladies from the ttc threads will be queueing up behind me!!) .

Gosh, it's nice to have everyone back on the thread again!

Picknmix thank goodness you didn't leave us for good! Remind me of what area you are in? surely there's a BUPA clinic or something nearby that could do the analysis for your DH? At least if he had that test and it came back fine that would be one less thing for you to worry about. Although I was wondering what would happen when you got the results. Would you get a copy sent to your GP so he/she could progress things with the NHS? It might be worth speaking to the GP to find out what would happen next. Your GP might also be aware of a private clinic that could help you. I hope the visiting family doesn't get too much, but if it does you can always pretend you have work to do and come and talk to us .

Clearly 'tis the season for car crashes. Am very glad that PnM, GG and the ducks are ok. GG you still haven't told us what sort of car you totalled. If your DH insists on you getting a replacement (and IF you decide to humour him), I think you either get an ancient Datsun Cherry (so that next time it gets totalled and is uninsured noone will mind) or a car he will hate. That'll learn 'im.

Caitni I am hoping the fabulous relaxed approach does the trick for you.

Right, back to the grindstone, see you later!