Assisted Conception and the bits inbetween

[soosy]

Welcome to the new thread I only hope I can link it to the old one

Hi ladies,
Thanks for your lovely messages, I wish you all good luck with your next steps.
Soosy - thanks for the info about IVM, I am wondering why they have recommended it for me as I am over the normal age group and as yet have not been diagnosed with PCOS, I think they are worried about the overstimm that happened last time. How do they know I'll produce the right number of eggs without drugs I wonder. I know I will have to ask them when I go at the end of January but just wish I had some more information now. I wouldn't worry about the economy if I was you, I think me and DH decided if we were going to do this we have to throw ourselves in completely and not worry too much about finances etc. but we want to spend what money we have wisely hence the trepidation that I feel about trying something so new.

Sounds like a good plan to wait and see how you feel in the new year I think I will do the same.

Lottie, I hope your appointment goes well and you get some good news - you deserve it.

Good luck tomorrow Lottie. I don't get the whole BMI thing, do they do a caliper thing on a skin fold?
I would go with the coffee thing and a piece of toast for brekkie.

all replies have said they didnt understand my post so ill try again would REALLYYY appreciate if anyone could give me knowlogable answer as im really confused lol here i go...

i had a period may 25th 08
i have a 35 day cycle
i had sex june 16t 08
had a scan that showed 8 weeks on july 30th (this put my period at a week later than it was but minus the 2 weeks before i concieved it pretty much went back to the day i concieved)
had a 2nd scan that showed 13+1 (4 days less that the 1st scan showed they took my due date of 15th march 09 from this)
then 3rd scan at 21 weeks(tied in exactly with the 1st scan)
my due date is march 14
my question is would you trust this or could i have gotton pregnant before that period the month before as ppl keep commenting how 'big' i am for 28 weeks! would you trust these scans as i dont want 2 go over by a month could it be possible? anyone please help xxxxx

rowing boat - it's height by weight. Nothing sophisticated.

thanks again ladies
Sooty - hope you are feeling better after your dream...it's amazing how they can affect you isn't it.

Flibberty - how did you get on with docs? thinking about you

LL - Good luck today...get swigging that coffee! they can't blow you off for a couple of xmas pounds? surely? my bmi is more like 33 (size 16) so going to have to be careful.
Hope it all goes well and you get to go again soon! How was aveda? did you go to the one in holborn? how lovely...could well do with a bit of that!

Spook - Glad you're doing well and DP is getting with the program - good that you got your bleed, when do you start stims?

Onion - I don't know about ivm. I've got PCOS so they were really careful with fsh doseage and also the trigger shot at the end (think my dose was lower than the usual?) Best of luck with it.

Bluestar - have you had any tests at all? blood tests etc? which clinic / hospital are you at?

Sparkling - sorry I can't help you...never been pregnant before (to be honest I'm not sure this is the best thread to get your answer - hope you find someone to help)

I've decided to go and have a blood test this morning - I have no symptoms what so ever...finding it difficult to believe!

Love to all x

One last thing - RB sent your cds yesterday...bad photocopying but had to do it quick so I didn't get caught with IVF material in my hand x

Mowmi - I've just had a blood test for 21-day progesterone, thyroid and liver function - all normal and I am Oving. DH has had two sperm assessments, which resulted in us being referred. The first one was awful - 0% normal forms and 29% motility, the second was 2% normal forms and 54% motility - not great, but a huge improvement. We are just at one of our local hospitals seeing a consultant at the moment.

Anyhow, big waves to everyone.
Bluestar x

Hi girls.
Lottie-hope it goes ok today. Let us know how you got on. I hope they didn't make an issue of the weight.
Mowmi-I can understand you feeling tentative until you get bloods done. A great big Good Luck and I'm sure it will just confirm what we already know
Flibberty-I hope you're doing ok sweetie and dealing with this horrible smear thing ok. What did the doc say yesterday??

I feel like shit tbh. Last night I was so tearful. The only way I can describe it is like the baby blues (not much good for those who haven't had them I know) but its like the worlds going to end and its all my fault An overwhelming feeling of guilt. Aren't hormones a wonderful thing
I'm not due for a scan till Jan 6th then stimms on 7th all being well. Does this sound like a ridiculously long wait to you bearing in mind I've been bleeding for 3 days already> My accupuncturist thinks I should call the clinic. There is a definate air of keeping me back till after Christmas. Bah.

Sparkling-I'm really sorry I can't help. You need a pregnancy board to answer that one for you really. Good luck.

Bluestar-isn't it amazing how much a sperm sample can change over time? Fingers crossed that all the supplements help and that you can get some answers soon. I know how frustrating the waiting is.

Hi Lottie.
Thats really great news about todays consultation! I can't believe its going to get started again so quickly! No wonder DH is scared. A bit of hand holding in order from you I think
I will have been down regging on just the Synarel for 25 days. Think I'll give the clinic a call but I don't want them to think I'm badgering them iyswim. Will do it now....

Bluestar that's all i had before we started IVF. DH's normal count was a bit low and I had pcos. All i had was blood tests and scan to confirm pcos.
LL so please you had good experience and great news that you don't have to wait - I agree with Spook - he's obviously worried it's too much too soon for you - bless.

Had preganacy confirmed today! Yeay! Doesn't feel real!

X

Yay Lottie and Mowmi, good news all round. I'm so glad you can get back on the IVF train (sorry strange analogy) so quickly Lottie. Do you think you will feel happier over Christmas now? Lottie, they do sound very good and thorough at Guys.
Mowmi, the cds arrived, thank you so much for that. I'm amazed that they came so quickly given the time of year. My DS put the first CD on, thinking it was a story CD and looked slightly bemused.
I have just worked out that I can't have a day three test this cycle because it will fall on a public holiday and then a weekend. Then the Monday after is the day I have two appointments at the reproductive clinic so not a lot of time.
My doctor in Hungary has said we can just go ahead and meet, but that he might need to modify the treatment based on the test.
I'm starting to feel a bit worried about the drugs now because I think we will have to get everything there.
I am a bit thick, but can you get a prescription here for the pill for down-regging?
I think we could buy most of the stuff in Hungary, probably be cheaper than here (I hope). We probably can't afford more than one crack at this, possibly two if we borrow more money, but that is definitely our lot.
So we are trying to save as much money at every step of the procedure, including drugs.
Sparkling, I am the last person to ask about cycle based stuff, never had much of a clue and just accepted whatever I was told by the medical staff.
I would recommend posting on the main conception forum as a new thread, there are some people who would love trying to calculate your due date. Good luck with it!

Just had a bit of a bump... sometimes I hate google! just read that a 35 my hcg level is quite low (within range but low) Now I know it's all about the doubling but if I tested on sunday and it was positive with a clearblue digital test (read somewhere they are sensitive to 25) then I'm guessing that means it hasn't doubled in 48 hours? I'm really upset and dh is going to kill me for over analyzing / searching for negatives!

what do you ladies think - help! x

Mowmi. Well in my book a positive is a positive and yes! You are completely over-analysing
But completely understandable. When I had my ectopic it was all about the hcg levels. But that was 7 weeks in and tbh, if this was a "normal" conception you would have absolutely no idea about hcg levels! You would just have a positive blood test.
So-try as best you can to step off the gas a bit and relax into your pregnancy. I know, however I will be exactly the same!
Lots of love.

Hi Ladies
Sorry I haven't been about. I went back to work yesterday with a bang and was absolutely shattered last night and went to bed as soon as my little girl did. (7pm!)

Trying to catch up with everyone, so apologies if I miss anyone.

LL great news on the appt - sounds like you bonded well with them, half the battle, in my view. keeping everything crossed for next time. Forgot how precious men are about this. We nearly canned our IVF the first time, before we even got out of the starting blocks cos DH wasn't enjoying his performance at the clinic too much and was finding it stressful to produce the goods. - sensitive little flowers aren't they ?

mowmi - stop worrying sweetie. My clinic doesn't do HcG blood tests. all they go on are the pregnancy tests and the pg confirmation scan. You will only stress more. you have a positive test. Relax and wait for the scan in early jan. Sppok is absolutely right, with a normal pg, you have no idea about HcG, other than it makes you feel sick as a dog! and dont forget everyone is different.

Spook - hope you are feeling ok sweetie? feeling hormonal is horrendous especially when it feels there is no end in sight. I am not an expert on DR, so not sure how long it should be.. hope you get some answers.

RB hope you get your med questions sorted out?

I am now officially on christmas hols - yippeee!!

Had a bit of a battle at the GP's yesterday to get them to prescribe my drugs. It was the same crap last time. My PCT won't fund IVF and its like dragging blood from a stone to prescribe the drugs to sustain the pg. I don't mind paying for it. Anyway, I went in with my sweetest smile, told them they had set a precedent last time and couldn't refuse and I got them without a whimper. I am now on Pregnyl (the HCG hormone),injected into my stomach twice weekly, gestone in my butt injected every day. gestone pessaries, oestrogen, metaformin for my PCOS, aspirin. I feel like a walking chemist.

have now booked our pregnancy confirmation scan for 9th Jan. and am feeling nervous about it. I am not feeling as nauseus as last time and mostly in the evenings only.

If I don't get time to speak to you all before christmas - have an absolutely wonderful day, thank you for being here during the past few weeks. Happy Christmas

xxxxxx

Thanks Spook and Flibberty - I know you are both right...why oh why did I go srarching!! I suppose the other thing is I have absolutely no symptoms - I don't feel pregnant! I should be happy but I've made myself miserable

Flibberty - glad you got the drugs you need!

x

Flibberty - my scan is 7th...i think i'll be a reck if i carry on like this!

Oh dear Mowmi, I'm sorry I know nothing about how HSG levels should behave. I suppose you don't know exactly when the embryo implanted so perhaps that makes a difference.
I'm sure I have seen stories on Babycentre where the hormones were slow to kick-in, but the baby was fine. The US version of Babycentre is fantastic, they seem more savvy about levels of hormones and all the details, probably because they are paying. Do a google on it, might cheer you up.
Flibbery, I wish I could fall asleep at 7pm instead of 2am. I'm awful, just sit up with DP and watch films or look at the internet.
Can anyone tell me what drugs you actually need for IVF and when you take them?
I have looked at the literature from my local clinic and it is all about tests and things, but no details.
Is there a website with all this on, I feel so in the dark at the moment, and I am worried when the IVF start that I won't have time to be organised and end up paying a premium for the drugs. If we don't save money I worried that we wouldn't be able afford a second cycle.

lottie - thrilled that you're feeling so positive after your disappointment. Very pleased to hear that you had such a great time at Guy's (not least because I'm being treated there myself ).

Hope you and your DP have a relaxing and enjoyable Christmas and wishing you a BFP for 2009! Best wishes......

Cor, we are all crossing over, with our fingers typing furiously!
Thank you Lottie!!!!
I refuse to be rushed and even if I go and see the clinic I won't start anything until I have had a good foray into prices.
Now I'm all galvinised to trudge around pharmacies in Budapest and ask for their prices, then dash to the airport.

Happy Christmas all for tomorrow. For those of us with failed IVF this year or m/c a big hug and hopefully Spring will bring the pregnancy panda our way!

Mowmi i understand your anxiety. But try and relax. With my first pg you only got 1 scan at 20 wkks. I was sure they were going to say I wasn't pg and was just fat. You don't always feel that different and morning sickness often does not kick in (if you are unlucky to get it) until 6-8wks. I am sure this is your time. Rub your belly and send that little bean some love and stay off google!!!

SparklingCreations hopefully you have found your answer elsewhere, but a dating scan could be a week out but not a month. It is not an exact science and not all babes are the same size. that being said it is very unlikely to be a whole month out. Some people are fatter than others and grow at differing rates it depends how the baby is lying and the amount of fluid in the sac. It will also depend on if you have had any other pregnancies.e.g if you miscarried at 4.5mths then your next pg will mean you get a lot fatter quicker. Hope that helps. If you are still worried as for another scan at 35wks.