Assisted Conception and the bits inbetween

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Welcome to the new thread I only hope I can link it to the old one

Hi ladies
LL -- huge hugs and cuddles for you darling. I am really so sorry that this time has not worked for you. I agree wholeheartedly with you. take some time off, and start living for yourself and look after you. (((((((((((((LL)))))))))))) Nappyvalley - I inject progesterone. and have one pessary at night. As well as all the other meds! It does hurt, but better if you warm it up in your bra before injecting. Also get your nurse to draw the circles on your butt so you can see where to hit the target. You will get lumps and bumps for a while. and I use icepacks when the lumps get a bit sore.. (can you tell I am an expert!)

Mowmi - sorry to hear about the spots, I hope they are easing off. Fingers crossed for you that it is the sign of something good. Also know what you mean about seeing unfit mothers around. Makes me mad as f*ing hell. Get thee away from knicker checking.. wear black knickers. That is what I am doing this time. I haven't had any more cramping since about Monday. Just odd twinges

spook - sorry to hear about your cold. I am sure the nasal spray is fine, it will just get absorbed by the membranes in your nose . Sorry you are feeling poo too. I am envious of you being by the sea. I was living in Dublin until a couple of years ago and before that grew up in North devon. Now I live in the Thames valley and I sooo miss the beach. as does my dog!

I have an admission to make. I had a moment of weakness today and did a POAS - but I am such a stupid moo I didn't pee enough on the stick and it didnt come up with anything. What an arse. I think it was an omen. do not test until sunday.

I have been feeling knackered all day. I went to my acupuncturist and broke down whilst having a treatment. Bless her, she is such a lovie. she gave me a good cuddle.

So I am going to bed in 30 mins to see if a longer sleep, longer than 8.5 hours will do me any good.

take care all and huge hugs to you

xxxxx

Mowmi, thank you for the offer! I have checked my CAT settings and I can received messages, or my email is woofycreature at gmail dot com.
Just in from work and it sure is busy on here.

WHY CANT I TAKE MY OWN ADVICE!!
Morning, It's 6.30 and I've been crying on DH since about 5.30. I have what feels like impending period pains (smack of last time) so did ER test and it was of course BFN. It's 5 days to otd so test should be 68% accurate? Feeling like absolute crap...losing hope on the whole process and like I need to except this is the one thing I can't have... 2 goes of 2 good grade embryos going back in and nothing!! My body is a dud!

Oh Mowmi...nothing I say is going to make you feel better darling but ITS TOO EARLY. Please please take a step back and wait-excruciating as that may seem. I know thats easy for me to say 3 weeks away from this bloody awful 2WW but this test means nothing.
Give DH another cuddle and try and take stock. The stress will be doing you no good either.
HUUUUUUGE hugs XXXX

Oh dear Mowmi, I'm sorry you have had such a horrible morning. Spook is right though, you are testing too early. Remember there are still another 32% of pregnant people who didn't get a positive result from that test.
In a way you have prepared yourself for the worst, which is what I would do, but there is still hope as well.
How are you feeling now?
Mind you, poor old body, I bet it's not happy being called crap, you better watch out, it might leave you at home and go out shopping. Actually, that wouldn't be half bad, Christmas shopping is hell.

mowmi - huge hugs sweetie... You know your body, but give it a couple more days and test again. 6 days is really early. Sending you lots of cybercuddles. xxxxxx

mowmi its not over till it's over - I always think this 'grin' looks like a 'grimace' so . . . .

thanks for all your lovely words...I know, I know....I was just in a bit of a state and thought I'd see if I could put myself out of my misery. Tuesday is still such a long way off. I'm feeling really low still and thinking about where and when this will all end.
Hope everyone else is well

x

Mowmi, fingers crossed for you. I hope you start to feel a bit better. Is there anything you can do to take your mind of things this weekend? I know go Christmas shopping in the middle of the busiest street in your town on Saturday afternoon. That should put your mind into survival mode and elimate any fripperies like IVF or the credit crunch.

Mowmi - hugs honey. The 2WW is evil, evil, evil..Lottie really explained it well. there is so much build up to the treatment, the 2WW is a bit of an anticlimax. I always feel this is when you need the most support.

Please don't test again until at least 4 days before. Go and get one of those digital tests - they are much better and leave nothing to chance....

I am going to take a test tomorrow morning.

hugs all
xxxx

Good luck Flibberty!

Thanks Flibberty - wishing a BFP for you!! Post as soon as you know! x

I am going to leave it until Tuesday now - I've prepared for the worst so (DH had to deal with my tears again last night - bless him) what will be will be (deep eh!?) If it's the same as last time I'll start spotting either tomorrow or Sunday so let's see what happens. Going to brave selfridges today for DH's present then apart from food I'm done!

X

PS Just re-read LL's post - she does sum it up perfectly she also uses what will be will be - 2 deep thinkers amongst us!

Morning girls. Mowmi, you sounded a bit stronger last night but I know you're still feeling like shit. I think you're right to leave it till Tues (if you possibly can) and I think Selfridges today will mostly cover RB busiest High Street analogy
Hang on in there sweetheart.
Flibberty-all the luck in the world....will be watching the thread with baited breath.

I feel awful today. DH and I have been fighting like cat and dog all week. He is soooo stressed with work and hasn't even asked me how I'm feeling with the drugs. I am on the verge of throwing in the towel tbh. I'm sure its just the hormones and the lack of sleep. God-we're having a big party on Saturday night too...aaagh!

Sorry Mowmi-it was this morning!

Thanks Spook. Me and DH had some howlers during the drugs phase - mostly about him not being as "in" to it as I was which I took as him not being bothered, understanding or supportive enough! I also think they have NO idea how tough this is on us and there isn't an awful lot they can do to help! Hang in there - it's the drugs and the stress!

Ladies - I have had 3 BFP's since last night. One at midnight, one at 4am and one just now at 0930 (taken in the loo at work).

I am in utter shock. I really thought the trauma of sunday would have ended everything.

The first test, I just used a traditional clearblue and got a shadow of a cross. I then used a digital one at 4am and just now at 0930 and they both say pregnant and 1-2 weeks conception.

I still have two more days to go, so will keep testing. I guess on Sunday, I can call it official??

I phoned my clinic who just said I have to wait until sunday. I am a bit miffed at them. I think doing a test After your first morning wee and it coming up positive is a pretty good indicator. But anyway, I will run with their protocol.

Everyone - please don't give up hope. Success does happen. I know it is not easy, I spent 8 years TTC after I had ovarian cancer and nothing. I then moved onto donor eggs and we have had success both times with the same donor, both at Blastocyst stage and with the support of acupuncture.

Lottie - Extra special hugs to you, I know how tender and vulnerable you must be feeling. Please look after yourself and keep that eternal flame of hope burning.

Mowmi - I am keeping all my bits crossed for you. Please let us know what happens. I hope you enjoy your shopping today. I know also that you must be feeling really raw too. Only 4 more sleeps until tuesday.

A very dear friend wrote this to me during this 2WW when I was trying not to symptom spot and it really helped me.

"So go for it and give in to it I say - symptom spot away and welcome your baby with open arms - if he/she/they has somewhere else to be this time around then at least they know you are waiting for them the next time with all the love in the world"

It made me cry and I wanted to pass it on to you all because it gave me hope this week.

Spook - dont throw it in! - Men are no good at empathy. My DH is crap. Not once has he asked how I am feeling and when I blasted at him on weds. He just said oooo touchy, I could have quite happily chopped off his head! The increased hormones are evil. They make you feel as if you are going mad. Remember this too will pass. You are so close to EC and ET. Just stick with it and stay strong.

Right got to go back to work, will be on later ladies --- have a good day all xxxxxxx

Oh Flibberty-I am sat here crying my eyes out. Three tests sounds pretty conclusive to me, and those words that your friend said to you have just tipped me over the edge! I am over the bloody moon for you (tentatively)
Lottie-I think you have just described my DH. The "flaws" in our relationship feel more like gaping chasms atm. Thanks for giving great advice when you must be feeling so raw.
Mowmi, hope you're having a ball in Selfridges and spending lots of money on precious thing

I am a hormonal lunatic. I am veering from singing at the top of my voice with DS's to sobbing quietly at the thought of DH (and Flibbertys friends salient words!!!)

Lots of love to all of you..

Hello ladies,
I haven't visited for a while, our first IVF cycle ended in miscarriage unfortunately. We saw the heartbeat at 7 weeks but by 9 weeks it had gone. I have read back messages a little way and I can see that several of you have similar things to get over this Christmas so I wish you well with finding your strength for the new year and moving onwards and upwards.
I seem to remember a discussion a little while ago about IVM on the board, does anyone know anymore about it at all?
Thanks
Onion x

Flibberty that's fantastic news, the very best luck with this!
I don't think you should chop off your DH's head, even though it might be fun. YOu will need him to have a head so that he can find the baby for the 3AM nappy change.

OMG!! That is so amazing - so happy for you! I too am sat with tears streaming down my face...see this thing can work!

Onion - so sorry to hear your news.

Kicked the backside out of Selfridges nothing for me (except a mini bag of oreos) but lots of lovely things for DH.

Lots of love x

Mowmi, you rock! Gave Selfridges what for, and a bag of oreos to boot!
Onion, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm afraid I don't know about IVM, it isn't that, slightly cheaper, version of IVF is it? I remember something on the news about 6 months ago.