The Hopeful Hearts Circle 1 - December 2025🎄💖

[Iris2024]

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Oh @TaysonicI’m so sorry. I had everything crossed for you. Have you rang the EPAU? I suspect this early they won’t scan but I know you’re taking the progesterone so may need some guidance

@Iris2024that truly is lovely positive news. I’m so happy for you.

@ttcnumerodoswhen was your miscarriage? I’m on cd30 if I count day 1 as the first day of miscarriage. I didn’t manage to catch a positive ovulation test and truly feel totally in limbo 🙈

@FullofconfusionIt started the 16th Feb, then two days later at my scan there was no sign of pregnancy and a negative test. I should have been about 6 weeks. It was like a slightly heavier period. I'm about cd 17 which is spot on for me. Sorry you're in limbo. Did you try again this month or are you waiting for your period? xx

@ttcnumerodosI’m so sorry. It took a couple of weeks for my negative test. I had EWCM at day20/21 so we tried then but LH strips didn’t show a peak so I’m not convinced. I think I might need to have a period before my body is going to ovulate which is frustrating

@Taysonic sending you a lot of love, you must be so drained from all of this ❤ How are you feeling today?

@Taysonicdevastated for you 😔
You probably have at this stage but have you had all your bloods done and thyroid checked etc xx

@Iris2024this is great and so reassuring for you 🥰

Morning all. Thank you for your thoughts and well wishes - it does really make a difference.

I've taken today off work (well, I'm 'appearing offline' for the day but going to be doing a little bit of work in the background to help keep me distracted and occupied.. I just don't want to deal with people today. Not to mention I look like I've gone five rounds in the boxing ring my eyes are that puffy from crying!).

I haven't gone to EPAU. I know that there's not really much they can do at this stage - 5 weeks is too early for a scan to confirm anything. They could offer progesterone for the bleeding, but I'm already taking it so... the only thing they can really do is hcg blood tests but if I wait a few days, I can ascertain the direction myself at home with pregnancy tests. It's what we did last time and it was a much 'gentler' way to process the loss. My hospital is a good 45 min drive away so it's a long round trip and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

I did email the fertility team that prescribed me the progesterone - just to let her know what's happening and to ask if I'm right to continue taking the progesterone in the short term until I can confirm which way hcg levels are going.

It's silly, but I did a variety of pregnancy tests this morning. An easy@home test as then I've got a way to track levels. This morning, the line was darker than two days ago but I expect that will fade over the next week. I also did a clear blue line test so I've got a 'nice' one to keep. I wrote the date on it and can keep it as 'evidence' for myself that this pregnancy did exist.

We'll see what today brings... I really am not holding out on any kind of hope. And I do feel very set on this being the end of my fertility journey now. I've tried. I did my best. And I'm not prepared to go through this rollercoaster again now.

I'm lucky. My losses have all been early. I know so many women endure far, far worse. I have my son. He's gorgeous and wacky and makes me laugh every day. I'm going to focus on the things that bring me joy in life that are within my control! Maybe now I can properly move house without worrying about the impact of maternity pay and future nursery costs. I'm going to book some holidays - the more the merrier! Book theatre tickets. Weekends away. Just do all the nice things.

@Taysonic Can't tell you how much I admire your way of changing your outlook on these things, even though you must be devastated too. Hope you find some wonderful holidays to go on! Still got my fingers crossed for you and will be thinking of you over the next few days x

@TaysonicI echo @LuckyDuck93I know you must be breaking inside but to keep looking forward and be grateful for what you already have is admirable. It is so exhausted and all consuming, I hope you’re able to find something nice to comfort you this evening. A mountain of chocolate or a long soak in the bath, whatever self care you need

@Taysonic i have actually tears of frustration and thinking no way give this woman a break!!!!! There has to be an answer why you can get pregnant but not keep and all so early? Has anybody got answers for you? Have you been taking low dose asperin? I do believe that’s what’s saved me this time! First cycle taking it. I’m so so sorry my lovely and i do truly hope that this will still work out for you ❤️

Im so sorry @Taysonic💕😔 so unbelievably sad to keep going through

Hi ladies. I've been trying to read and keep up to date with you all and I am gutted to read your latest update @Taysonic I'm so sorry.

And to the others who've had losses and negative tests I'm so sorry too. It really doesn't get easier.

I'm in a bit of limbo myself which is very unexpected.

As you know AF arrived for me. I tested negative on 9dpo then af arrived 10dpo then i had my usual 5 days period. I sometimes get brown spotting for a day after and this cycle I had some brown on wiping for a few days but otherwise nothing different. As I gave PCOS I know my cycles can be longer so I usually start opk tests when I start seeing ewcm but since changing my diet/supplements & starting Metformin they're much shorter so I decided on cd10 (3rd march) I would start opk to see if I can track the rise more carefully so we can dtd more before ovulation. See if it would help.

This is where things get confusing because I did an opk and it came back BLAZING positive LH which was unexpected. I did research and liked it maybe to LH fluctuations with PCOS. I did another one a few hrs later expecting it to be less but it was just as strong. Somewhere in my memory I remember reading that it could be hcg causing it but how because I've literally just finished my period.

I dipped a pre-mom HCG dip stick anyway and it was positive. I then did a frer a which was also positive. Wtaf?!

I called epu for some advice because bleeding early then a BFP made me nervous and they said it could be an early loss but HCG still rising therefore retained tissues or I could be ectopic.

I had bloods on Wednesday and yesterday (48hrs apart) and now I'm just waiting to see what the results are. Then probably an early scan next week. My HCG Wednesday was 810 at around 20dpo. My brain is all over the place. I can't focus on anything and I have no idea what's going to happen.

I know how lucky I am to have caught after just a few cycles but why is this never easy?!

@SausageRoll90hopefully your blood results will give you a clearer answer. I don’t know what levels HCG should be at 20 dpo. Did EPAU say either way? Or are they waiting for the next results before they give you an idea? I can’t imagine you’re stressed. It’s horrible being in limbo.

I’m cd32 since my miscarriage and had spotting this morning. Cycles are usually 31 days give or take so thought AF had arrived. It’s now totally disappeared so I’m still in limbo too. Frustrating. I’d rather just get it out of the way now

EPAU and the GP basically won't say anything until the 2nd blood results as one isn't really telling them much. This feels like the longest few days of waiting. This limbo is hard. I thought I would find this process of TTC easier than last time because I've had a successful pregnancy with my son (he's my 4th pregnancy) but it turns out trauma of reoccurring losses doesn't really leave you. Well for me it seems that way anyway

God the wait for af after miscarriage is hard. My cycles went a bit wonky after each of my miscarriages and took a bit to settle back down so I understand your frustration. You just want to know where you are with things again. Praying the spotting is a sign of things moving towards a period.🤞🏻

Well, I think this morning's test confirms that this pregnancy will end in another loss. The bottom test in the picture is today's. I think it looks noticeably lighter compared to Friday's test but also to Wednesday's test too.

I think this marks the end of the road for me now, ladies. Four losses in a year is a clear sign to me that it's time to call it quits. I don't quite know how long that will take to come to terms with, but I certainly don't really feel I can keep going. All my hope has gone.

Forgot the image...

Third time lucky?

The biggest hugs 🫂 to you @Taysonic. I'm so sorry and I wish I had the words to make anything better. I read your earlier post which was very positive about focusing on what you have already - it really struck a chord with me as I think I'm also approaching the end of the line. I've already been thinking about looking into counselling - maybe that would help? You've tried so hard and endured a lot so please go easy on yourself xx

Oh @Taysonic, you always have the right words for everyone else and I’m not as good at that! I really feel for you. I don’t think we’re far behind you in making the decision to stop, but for you, having come so close so many times is just cruel.

Just saying hi, TTC since the beggining of the year, 2 kids allredy. Saving for later to read through.... my app says ovulation will be this coming tuesday, not tracking it, except for period dates.

@Taysonic I dont even have the words except to say I'm so so sorry you're going through this again.
I hope you're looking after yourself and have bought yourself plenty of treats and nice things, get those holidays booked , life is so cruel, you deserve something to look forward to ❤

One day of spotting, yesterday very light bleeding and then today AF is back with a bang! I expected this period to be heavier post miscarriage. Feeling pretty rubbish but happy that I’m finally onto another cycle

Hi ladies. Thank you so much for all your kindness and support.

Another pregnancy test this morning showed hcg dropping further. Hadn't heard back from the fertility team at all and so made a GP appointment in the hope they'd be able to give me the assurance I needed to stop the progesterone. Took the pregnancy tests as evidence.

He basically wouldn't say anything either way and would only refer me to EPAU, despite me saying that I'd rather avoid that if at all possible.

He wouldn't even talk about next steps and potential referral to the recurrent loss clinic because he couldn't be sure this was a miscarriage.

Went home, waited for a call from EPAU who had booked me in for a scan on Friday and were trying to encourage me to continue with the progesterone until then. I just bawled my eyes out on the phone. Said I didn't need a scan to confirm what I already knew and I didn't want to be waiting that long anyway. I asked if there was any way they could just confirm what they needed to with as minimal intervention as possible.

Amazingly, they called back and said they were happy for me to stop progesterone and they'd call me back in a week to check how I was.

And I feel weirdly better for that, and for knowing I can just stay at home and let nature do its thing now. Having a scan and being told bad news is not an experience I'm in a rush to repeat.

Time to take a break, get through this, and have some big discussions with DP about whether we continue or not. Or rather, what would need to change or happen for us to consider it an acceptable risk to try again. Right now, the risk for me is too high.

@Taysonicsorry the GP wasn't much cop but must have been a bit of a relief that the EPAU have let you choose how you manage this. I completely understand the not wanting another scan with bad news 😞
Sending you so much love and strength.

I had such a shit experience today and have just had a big cry to my husband. I had a call with my fertility consultant - was all.prepped to advocate for myself and ask loads of questions. Then he said 'oh, I see from your notes that you're pregnant' - well I was three weeks ago but I'm not now. It totally threw me and I could hardly get the words out. I feel so deflated and just really sad. I know it's probably a simple admin error but it felt like a dagger to the heart.

He did say all my tests apart from blood clotting were ok, so I've to be tested again in a few months. And I pushed to see if I can get progesterone if I get a +test, which he agreed to. But I'm a big sad mess tonight 😔 xx