MC Avengers - Chocolate cake anyone?

[mistlethrush]

I've started a new thread as the old one was full - hope everyone finds their way here OK.

Me too!

I have been there before, though .

Are there ever any MC Avengers' nights out, or are we pretty much spread around the country?

I'm Up ' north...

Sussex - just be warned, I think that sometimes you have to have 3mc in a row with no sucessful pg in between before you get referred to recurrent mc unit. I was lucky ('lucky'?) that I got referred after only 2 in a row - I think that I got round the 3 in a row bit because the mc I had before ds ended in a mp which resulted in chemo and a year off ttc - then the first mc after ds took 3 months before it settled down - all the time me being absolutely terrified that mp coming back (much more likely to get it a second time once you have had it). Anyway, this was just so you don't have too high expectations on going to see Dr - but there is also no harm in asking.

However, being on the books of rmu rather accademic seeing as dh has decided not to cooperate at the moment (although he did 'slip' earlier in the week which was rather nice but I think it was too early to stand any chance of +ve this month...)

Ds's first morning in school today - and I had an early meeting to had to abandon him early. Luckily, had to call him back to me for a quick kiss and hug, then he ran straight back into the classroom!

Oh God, mistlethrush, I'm sorry to have to ask, but what is a mp?

Mistle LOL at DP "slipping" whatever you did that night, I think you should repeat next cycle too Were you a little sad for your DS's first day at school, or were you brave I think we're hoping that Sussex can get referred after 2 as she is over 40, I have read in a few places now that if you are over 35 and have had 2 m/c's they will refer you straight away, which is how I have got referred. I bet it was so frustrating having to wait so long, and the worry that it might happen again, no wonder your DP is reluctant, he saw the effect it had on you firsthand and is probably terrified about it happening again, would he ever consider counselling?
Sussex I'm West Midlands, where are you? Mind you I don't want you making me ill with your tequila's

hello all,
I haven't posted much but do pop in and have a look quite often. Really just wanted to send ((hugs)) to everyone who are going through it right now.
I had a mmc 6 weeks ago at 22 weeks (though baby had died at 17). I had AF 4.5 weeks after delivery and ERPC and so now it's TTC week but I can't face it yet. DH keeps reminding me I am 41 and that our 'biggest risk' is putting things off. So far it's been no touchy touchy on that front . Any advice anyone on how long to wait?

The other thing is how I've had nothing from anyone since the mc from the hospital/mw/gp. Should I have or am I being silly? We're still waiting for the pm and have no idea when it will arrive. I didn't have any tests and didn't realise that perhaps I should have asked at the time. This week had a call from my hospital on why I hadn't turned up for an appt (!!)and when I told her why she asked if I'd got my follow up gyni appt yet. I said no so she went to find out only to come back and tell me that I don't get one and that if I get pregnant again it's not guaranteed I'll be under consultant care even though I had a late mc. However, being an old bird I probably will becasue of my age. I've made a gp appt for next week and think maybe a chat with her will help. It's all such a conundrum!

pwcbird So sorry to hear what you have been through, I can't believe how lucky my treatment with the hospital and GP has been compared to others. Can I ask was this your first m/c?
I would at least think about contacting your GP to book an appt to talk to him/her about when to come and see them to discuss the PM results or to find out what happens generally. I can't believe you've just been left to fend for yourself

Well molliemooma technically no it isn't. I had a very early mc about 7 years ago with a former bf. It was unplanned and I actually didnt' know I was pg until mc and wondering what on earth was going on!
Then met DH and decided to ttc and got pg 6 wks later and sailed through pg with hardly a twinge and 2yrs ago had lovely DS. So this time when had the 12 wk nuchal scan and everything was hunky dory I just thought it would be like with DS and didn't fret too much. I was more concernce with the nuchal, what with being older and once that was good I thought all would be well. So it was a terrible shock . I suppose the gp will be able to help me with what happens in our area (I'm s. london).

pwcbird I am so sorry about what has happened to you. Can't even imagine what you must be going through

pwc bird,

The treatment you have recieved is shocking!

I had a late mc at 18 weeks 8 months ago and the care I recieved was excellent.

In the week after I delivered I recieved 3 home visits from various mw.

I had weekly counselling starting about 4 weeks after the birth for 6 weeks. Could have had more but didn't feel I needed it. But have the option to return in any future pg. Just call them up directly. It is a special bereavment midwife team attched to the hospital.

The hospital arranged a beautiful funeral for my daughter.

I had follow up appointment with Gp and consultant who went through the pm. I have also been promised a whole schedule of extra scans when I get pg again.

I really think you should contact someone about your poor treatment. PALS maybe?

Thanks for your kind words. I'm ok (well kind of) and really just full of a mixture of things.Part of me desperately wants to get pg again which is why, now that I've had AF, DH is keen to get on the case. But there are so many unanswered questions on what happened, though probably/possibly I'll never know. And at 41 I can't really leave it for a year or something, and I can't really see if I do leave it 3 months or so what real difference it will make to how I feel. If something goes wrong again I think I'll feel pretty devastated whatever time has passed.
Dh says we should just be recreational on the BD front and see what happens rather than counting days etc if I'm still feeling unsure but that's mad because we all count our days and know our clock don't we even though they don't know what's going on!

Thank you cece I didnt' read your message before I posted last one. Most people think that my aftercare (or rather entire lack of aftercare ) has been utterly terrible. I've got the gp appt next Tues and I think I'll wait and see what she says and then decide from there. Thing is, day to day I'm fine - DS keeps me sane and you have to get back to normal. However I know that I'm not really as when the hospital rang about my 'missed' appt and I had to tell them I could feel it all well up inside. But then it's still only 6 weeks and that's pretty normal. Part of me just so wants to be pregnant before my due date (which was 30 Nov) as I know I'm going to find that tough but it's Sept already so think it's unlikely. Ahh well, we shall wait and see. I feel ok.

pwcbird - I am 41 too so we just sort of got back in the saddle. I know the feeling, the need to be pg before due date and I wasn't. In the end it didn't matter to me so much as I thought. We had to take a couple of months off due to an infection I got and in hndsight it did help to get some distance from it all. I think your DH idea of some recreational bd is a good idea.

Hi,

I think I may have found the right thread for me ... tell me please if I'm in the wrong place.

I have a dd (21 months) honeymoon baby, no effort, no probs.

2 MCs in the last 6 months (April & July) had my period ready/not ready to start again. Want to try but terrified of a 3rd MC.

Any one in the same boat?

hi ladies
PWCBIRD im so sorry to see you in here and for what you have been through unfortunately there are a few posting on here who have been through similar experiences to yours if you dont mind me asking and feel free to not answer but was your baby a boy or a girl? huge {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}} xx
DUSTIN congrats on the scan and HB im made up for you
woolyjo so sorry about your MCs i have had 3mcs myself my most recent two were april and june so similar to you i found this thread really supportive and still do so i hope you find us the same for you
hi to everyone else
it looks as if i have actually ovulated!! CD24 according to FF so i am 4DPO now and officially on the 11day wait for me
xx ei xx

Dustin, that's excellent news - hope that you now have an uneventful pregnancy.

Hello woollyjo, I'm sorry about your losses. I've had 6 now, most recently a little boy at 17 weeks in July. I hope that your stay here is short.

Eis - congratulations on being post-ovulatory! I always have a few days of not stressing at that point then start getting stressed out about testing

pwcbird count me with the furious at the way you've been treated crowd ((hugs))

We had our follow up appointment on Tuesday, been thinking a lot about it (I hate thinking ). There was nothing wrong with Toby as far as they could tell - heart, brain, lungs etc all completely normal - although he was a little bit small. The placenta was developed properly too. All my blood tests were normal - no signs of infection (I'm immune to parvo, CMV & toxoplasmosis so at least I don't have to worry about catching them), no diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance, no antibodies, all my clotting was completely normal (pretty much the best results I've ever had), thyroid was normal All normal.

She said that if I was a newbie without my dire history that she would be extremely optimistic about my chances next time around, as it stands the fact that we have two living children is a positive thing but obviously I have all the losses too. She said it is fine to start ttc whenever we want and has referred me to the infertility/mc clinic for cycle monitoring to try and speed things up (although I won't get an appointment for months). In the next pregnancy the plan is I start heparin & prednisolone & increase the aspirin to 150mg/day as soon as I get a positive (I have the drugs at home already so I can do it asap) and call her immediately - she'll see me within three days & I'll have weekly appointments & scans throughout the pregnancy. If we make it that far she'll do my c-section no later than 38 weeks.

So I suppose it was good, no answers but she has done everything that I wanted her to wrt referral, drugs & scans etc. We're planning now to not try too hard (no charting or OPKs) for three cycles - that will get us past Toby's due date & our holiday, if nothing has happened by then (I'd be amazed if it had), I'll wean ds (he'll be 27 months) & we'll try more seriously.

Sussex - molar pregnancy - ended up with 4 months of chemo, 6 months off work, 1 yr after end of treatment before being allow to ttc...Treatment was rough and I think that that might be putting dh off trying again, particularly after scare after 2nd mc...

Ds's first day was good yesterday - he ran in and I had to call him back for a hug and kiss. This mornign his first words to me were 'I want to go to my new school today' - and as soon as his teacher appeared he was at her side, then racing into the classroom. He has already got the idea of moving his name from his peg onto the board in the classroom.

My mother now knows why I am shattered all the time - I think that he is much harder work than I was at the same age!

Still don't know whether to bite the bullet and start getting rid of things. Not sure that I am quite ready to totally give up.

Sadminster - glad that you have had some positive news - although in some ways it doesn't help does it - I've been given the all-clear and told that there is no evidence of why mc keep on happening - but it doesn't help the fact that they have.

Anyway, hope that all the follow-up care will assist in keeping you less worried next time.

(and anyone else with r/c m/c)

its jules here,

have you read this thread, give them a call

good luck to everyone here

That counts me out I think - can't have any hormone type treatment due to previous mp. Now don't seem to be able to have asprin either which is a bit - still not got to the bottom of whether there is any pain relief that I can take without ending up at A&E...

mistle,

nk cells and pres (sp) treatment is a steroid i think

Oh - its just I was told at recurrent mc unit that basically the normal treatments that they offer are all out for me at the moment which isn't terribly helpful... Might investigate further.

i think the point of the trail is it is not the 'normal' type of treatment

give lwh a call and ask for more details,

i really believe in them and i think nk has alot to answer from when it comes to m/c,

good luck x

Thanks! Just need dh to cooperate a bit more and you never know!

scuse me for butting in, but has anyone got any advice/experience about breast changes after m/c? I had a first trimester miscarriage at the end of august and now my breasts feel like they are full of milk. Had a newborn visiting today and I had that full-on tingling/burning breast sensation I had when my first dd started bf. Is it all in my mind (wishing for a baby) or do your boobs do funny staff after m/c? It is making me miserable as it's even harder not to think about the baby when I feel like I'm making milk.

Hi Guys... made my appointment with my GP... 22nd Sept... just taking things one day at a time.... not unduly thinking / obsessing (Is that how it's spelt??) every minute. Not getting my hopes up...too much!

Does anyone know what the implantation bleed is like? I realise this is a werid question.. it's just that my last AF on 10th August only lasted one day at the most and wasn't very heavy. Please describe - though leave out all the horrid details please - feel a bit boakey!! (Boakey - a N Ireland word for feeling quite sick!)