MC Avengers - Chocolate cake anyone?

[mistlethrush]

I've started a new thread as the old one was full - hope everyone finds their way here OK.

scotlass - I am sorry to hear your news. Will they refer you for investigations now?

I have just got back from the dentist. Last time I went of course I was pg so he looked at his notes and then said so I see the baby was due in May? So had to tell him that she had died. Then also that I was entitled to free dentistry anymore as it was before 24 weeks.

scotlass I'm so sorry -have you got family or friends nearby you can get to come over so you arent sitting at home all by yourself? Thinking of you and sending you lots of hugs.

cece that must have been rubbish for you. Last week I had to 'tell' my father (who has advanced Alzheimers) that the baby I was 'working on' (his terminology) wasnt going to arrive in November - how do you explain mc to someone who doesn't even recognise who you are most days? It was definately up there in my top ten cr@p experiences. And I'll have to do it a few more times I'm sure

Let's all think happy thoughts and maybe our ruby slippers will whisk us away to a land of sticky beans (mixing movie metaphors wildly I know but hey, I like to live it up a little)

scotlass if you get a camper van you could travel down to DH on the target weekends!

Re testing, not sure - in a couple of weeks although will probably crack and start middle of next week! Am probably completely wrong anyway, am trying hard not to get my hopes up tbh

Oh cece that must've been awful at the dentist and poor you ontheup it must be upsetting trying to explain to your dad with all the added stress of dealing with his confusion.

I haven't told anyone in rl yet, I'm so tired and can't face having to have another mc conversation again with my mum and friends. DD came home from afterschool at 5pm, my friend collected her thankfully so I've been kept going feeding her and sorting her for bed. She's angling for a day off school tomorrow saying grandpa will watch me cos I'm poorly but I think she's just exhausted after our busy weekend. The ironing is calling now and I'll watch panorama, warship, the news and then sleep!

ontheup will be waiting with baited breath for you, I'll be tapping my ruby heels (well I've got black sparkly ones they'll have to do!)

A quick question froma first time miscarrier here hope no-one minds.

Heres the story so far (for those of you that havent seen it)

Found out had a MMC at 7+5 after some spotting- this was the 12th May. Bled all week then miscarried on the 19th may. Had a night in hosp due to heavy bleeding. scan showed lots of blood but no retained products apparently.....on 25th of may went back to hospital to have retained products removed and given antibiotics although swab showed no infection. Bleeding carried on, not heavy just steady and red then last week stopped. Had an internal scan last wednesday which showed all clear but nurse did a test which was positive. However went away for weekend with DH and had sex and bleeding started again, red fresh but has got heavier and have feeling like its AF (belly ache, headache). HOWEVER am still getting positive tests. Would it be AF if the tests are still positive??? or should I be worried?

Sorry for long post, just need some reassurance.

hope you are all ok.

i had positive tests for at least 3 weeks after mmc and erpc. i bled on and off for a month and then af 6.5 weeks after erpc. i think it can take a while for the tests to get negative but if you're worried maybe see if your doc will do blood tests for bHCG, the levels should be going down

oh yes I used to own a campervan

Had a feeling the dentist would mention it, so it wasn't unexpected, and had been practising what to say the night before while lying in bed.

TBH it was quite nice (in a funny sort of way) to talk about her. No one mentions her anymore to us. Although the kids were talking about her at the weekend.

mummytolivia - I think somepeople do continue to have BFP for a while after a mmc. Didn't scully? or am I thinking of someone else? I can't help as didn't have any bleeding at all after my ERPC but if you are worried it may be worth going to see your GP if it is heavy or continues...

2nd mc I still had +ve 10wks after mc and following 2 afs !!! Was getting lots of scans to make sure all properly sorted out and hcg levels EVENTUALLY dropped down. Last autumn it only took 6wks following mc for +ve to turn to -ve

Hiya, how is everyone this week?
So sorry to hear your news of a 3rd m/c Scotlass, was bad enough to have 2, can't imagine how you feel having your 3rd, with dh away as well
Mummy2Olivia, Cece is right, my m/c did drag on for what seemed an eternity. I got the all clear 6wks after m/c began, as my hcg levels remained high and took weeks to slowly reduce. We had been told not to ttc until blood test results showed hcg levels had returned to normal. I didn't do a pregnancy test until 6wks after m/c, which showed a negative. I don't think it would have been negative much earlier than that.
Tbh, I would probably wait a little longer before ttc again, doesn't sound like your cycle is ready yet. Have you considered acupuncture? af arrived for me 5wks after m/c and that was sooner than with the last m/c, when I had a d&c. Even though this 2nd m/c was so long winded, once I started acupuncture I feel that it has got things back on track again sooner than had I left it. Good luck
Can't remember what I said here last week, but it's been interesting
dh was diagnosed with whooping cough last Wed, so this has delayed our ttc yet again, as he has been too ill, and I needed to have a vaccination and a course of antibiotics, just incase I conceive any time soon. So we need to wait another 4wks before ttc, just as we get to the end of the 4wk waiting period after my rubella vaccination [shock
Oh well, at least my body is getting more time than I had planned, to return to normal.
And Dh said something nice last night, we were watching a David Attenborough show on Africa (dh is from Sth Africa) and we haven't been back there since 2003. I said we should try and get back there when dd2 is a little older and he said well we're going to have another one by then So we were working out the best age to travel with the older 2, and dc3 not crawling yet. Nice to hear it's still a reality in his mind, after 2 m/c

Oh scully its all happening your end isnt it? I hope DH gets better soon - not nice for any of you I'm sure - he sounds lovely btw

Mummy2Olivia there's not much I can add I'm afraid - we all seem to have had such differing experiences. If in doubt thouigh I'd ask the GP or EPU - that's what they are there for. I never tested after the mc was confirmed though so am really no good at all on this one. Sorry.

grrr, I'm slightly annoyed.... af arrived today, which is good as my cycles seem to have returned to normal. However having had the whooping cough vaccination last week, we now can't ttc for 4wks after it, which will probably mean that I won't be able to ttc when I'm ovulating in the last week of June
Fingers crossed I ovulate a week later than normal this month

Hello everyone, just wondering if I can join you?

I had a mc 5 weeks ago, and AF is just coming to an end now... Would love to try again, but it seems to be such a big step so soon afterwards. How long did you all wait after mc to start ttc again?

Wishing you all lots of luck x

Hi Charlie, welcome Sorry to hear about your m/c
I had my first m/c last Aug, and didn't feel ready to try until Dec. I had a 2nd m/c in April and have been keen to try for the past month, but haven't been able to for a variety of medical reasons which I won't bore you with
I felt ready to try a lot sooner after the 2nd m/c than the 1st time. The first one was such a shock, at 12wks, that I needed more time to get my head around it. How are you feeling about it all?

1st - 22 months (mp, so not 'allowed' to for 12 months after treatment); 2nd - probably 5 months - last - not sure that dh has really started to ttc since (8mo) - although there was one month when I might have caught him unawares and jumped him at the right time

Still not much happening on that front - af arrived today, but on the positive side, managed not to put any weight back on over our holiday, and am back on the straight and narrow again.

Thanks for the welcome Scully! Poor you, not surprised you didn't feel like trying sooner after having got to 12 weeks. You must've been devastated to have the same thing happen again

I'm not sure how I feel about it really. I certainly feel very confused! I would love to be pregnant again, and almost feel desperate to be, but on the other hand I think I should give myself a bit of time to come to terms with what's happened.

I also feel like if we manage to get pg again and the same thing happens again that I may as well get it over and done with sooner rather than later IYKWIM? If I wait longer to ttc, and do have another mc then will that extra time I waited be wasted time?

How do you feel now?

Welcome charliesmum sorry you had to find us but we're all good for venting when you need to! IKWYM re wondering what's best, waititng or trying again but tbh I dont have much of a choice though as I am 38 so I need to get my skates on

Was at the dr today and there was a woman with a DS same age as mine (2) and a brand new baby - was a bit if truth be known but it was also lovely to see what might be one day - sigh.

Sorry re AF mistle but well done re weight loss am v . I ate a whole bag of Percy Pigs yesterday and still feel sick!

Good luck ontheup, and yum re the percy pigs (a weakness of mine too)

It is tough seeing other babies sometimes isn't it. I braved a baby shop at the weekend which was hard - loads of pregnant women. Let's hope that we'll be in the same boat soon

Hi mistlethrush, sorry to hear about your mc's. Did you have a nice holiday?

Charliesmum - yes, thanks, holiday great - weather wonderful, ds (3.2) a little sod though! Came back needing a week off to recover Starting to wonder how to prepare for the next one in a few weeks (only 1 week each I hasten to add)!

OTU - yes, am very about weight staying off - not sure how it did as resorted to the odd bit of cake and alchohol due to ds's behaviour. Hopefully, if I have a good session might be able to shed a little more before next hol... Its a good inspiration anyway. I know I can as I've done it before, but its still not easy.

I read somewhere that if you dont tend to put weight on during a holiday it means you are likely to be a snacker/ picker - the theory is that you dont have the picking temptation while on holiday so even thouh you might eat more at mealtimes it balances out - could be complete tosh of course but thought it might be of interest

I'm sure I've read it Mistle but where did you go on holiday? And where's the next one?What did ds get up to, that was challenging I found dd1 harder between 4 and 5, she's recently turned 6 and so far that has been good
Know what you mean Charlie, it's hard to know if you should ttc straight away or have a break, often it depends on your age and if you feel you have time on your side. I'm feeling ok now, just want to get on with ttc, which we can in 3wks time

Scully - west coast of Scotland. Idyllic. Apart from the shouting and screaming coming from our direction of course

Lets see: he was taking 2 hours to eat breakfast and that took a lot of persuading - then 30 mins afterwards he was saying 'I'm hungry'. He didn't want to come out with the dog and have a cycle down the road - although when he was not whingeing and moaning he was having a great time and freewheeling on his balance bike really well. He was being bought really nice things to eat, picking at them (and anything else on our plates that he liked the look at - well, it was holiday) and leaving a lot (which dh normally polished off as it was nice food) and 30 mins, or sometimes 15mins later saying 'I'm hungry'. He was not willing to eg visit a castle with us that we'd gone to as we thought he'd enjoy it - put waterproofs on him as it was raining which he immediately started to remove so I ended up with him held up by one wrist walking him, partly out of his waterproofs towards the castle, getting looks as though I was a really bad mother (he was screeming blue murder) (once he'd got over not wanting to go, he did enjoy it). He was name calling constantly. He was prodding strangers when he'd been specifically told that he must not do this - and reminded just as we approached them. He whinged. A lot. He refused to get in the car when asked and did other things instead which resulted in 30mins further delay in leaving. He didn't tell us that he was feeling sick in the car (we would have done something, and given him his bowl so at least he didn't end up having to be completely stripped at the side of the road and lots of things taken out of the car (really delightful!)). He refused to go to sleep in the car on the way up at bedtime (in pjs, teeth brushed, story told, song sung) and whittered on and on until we got to the hotel (9.30pm) and then whittered until 10.30pm. Saying that he needed a poo - or a wee - at any opportunity, either to have a look at the facilities or to be able to stop doing what he was currently doing. Do I need to add any more?

There were times, of course, when he was delightful - and I even got stopped in the toilets after taking him to a rather nice restaurant by a lady who said that he had been really well behaved and she wouldn't have taken her children in at the same age.

sorry, that was rather a long rant wasn't it

Ontheup - I did have opportunities to browse though as we were in a self catering cottage - and also had option to finish bits of ds's cakes up now and then, so still not sure how it happened... I do have to be very careful though - eg if there is a bag of nuts around I will find that it calls me and I have the odd pinch now and again, so I have to be really careful to ensure things like this are not easily available!

morning all, sorry major rant coming up so look away now...
does anyone else feel weird about ttc some days? thats the only way i know how to describe it. i was really desperate for another baby when we started trying in jan and got pg 6 weeks later, really pleased as it was perfect timing (dd starting school in sept and baby due oct; doing a masters at the moment and it fitted in well with uni years and taking time off etc), then mmc and erpc in april.
at first i just wanted to get on and ttc and get pg again, now i feel like i'm not sure if i want to ever try again. i'm on cd28 and very doubtful that it worked this month as not feeling remotely pg just waiting for af.
just seems too stressful trying every month and failing. it took nearly 2 years to get pg with dd and i don't think i could do this for 2 more years
dh thinks its just hormones speaking cos my body hasn't settled down from the mmc yet, but i feel that i want to not bother for the rest of this year and by next year there's an even bigger gap between dd and another dc.
has anyone else felt like this or am i the only (possibly hormone-mad) nutter.
sorry its so long but its been going round in my head all week

No - sometimes think its better to just leave it at one (particularly when he's playing up (see much longer rant than yours below )). But then I need to get at least some cooperation from dh to have any chance at all, so I think that it is more him who has the problem. Do men have their hormones all over the place too?