MC Avengers - Chocolate cake anyone?

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I've started a new thread as the old one was full - hope everyone finds their way here OK.

I've been in exactly the same situation. You spend months crossing fingers for a +ve then the next period hoping for a -ve. WHY CAN'T OUR BODIES BE A BIT MORE REASONABLE ABOUT THE WHOLE THING!!!

lou, if by any minute chance you live in South London, I'm seeing an acupuncturist who I can highly recommend near Blackheath...

*PrePG - thanks for the carrot tip - I'm probably being really thick, but what's CM? I know I'll be really now, as I bet it's completely obvious

cervical mucus!
DH cringes every time I mention it!

scully good luck with those HCG levels dropping, what a nightmare. I completely agree with what mistle says about wanting a BFN after spending months wishing you could get a BFP!!

I am having a really rough time at the moment. Work is terrible - we are in a restructure and on an international conference call to update the whole team (40 + people) it was announced that I was moving to a new job, in a role that is effectively a demotion? No-one had discussed it with me at all - it was a complete shock. I was understandably livid and am following it up with my Line Manager and the other person involved, but for some reason it has brought back all the negative feelings of the miscarriage. I can't help but think that if I was still pregnant I would laugh this off, I wouldn't care if they stuck me in the mail room stuffing envelopes until my maternity leave in September. (In fact...I would prefer it ) instead I am stuck where I was at the end of last year...not pregnant, debating whether to stay in my current (appalling) company or make a fresh start (and inevitably delay ttc for a while)

I feel like it is yet ANOTHER kick in the teeth - to make it worse, I can't stop crying and I am sure everyone at work thinks I am completely over-reacting!

Am off to gorge myself on carrots...

NSNA - sorry things are bad at work. Things were bad at my work and I did something about it, found a new job, resigned and managed to get bfp during notice period. Slightly awkward start to new job, but clearly that was the right decision for me to take at that stage. Hope things work out whichever way for you.

Carrots? I'd heard of grapefruit juice and have my daily glass but not carrots. I think I do OK for CM though.

I'm just ever so slightly down today. Silly really.

Sorry about work NSNS but surely they can't just do that? I mean you can't just demote someone without good cause! I hope you get somewhere with following it up.

That was meant to be NSNA

NSNA good luck - ikwym re 'bringing it all back' - see my earlier rants about work - you may not want to hear this but maybe having a less stressy job for a bit will help with ttc and if you move now then you wont get as good a deal with maternity leave and pay etc (I'm guessing, that's certainly my problem) - having said that, if staying put is too stressy then getting out might be the best...catch 22 really. Good luck.

Claire everyone's allowed to feel down thats what we're here for!

PD consultant's appt was OK yesterday, he keeps saying i have 'decades' so here's to that thought. I am being put forward for some kind of research prog too re early onset PD, am (wierdly) quite excited! Well, its a day trip to cardiff at least!

Am listening to a CD of Fun Boy 3 oldies - brilliant! As yuo can see i am taking this 'chill out 'resolution seriously

Ugh, I think the depression is going around. It must be this awful weather on top of all the other sh!t we have to put up with. NSNA I'm so sorry about your work situation. and I know exactly what you mean about 'if you I was still pregnant' - sadly that's been my motto lately.

Also I got an email from a college friend this morning - and is it just me or when you get an email from someone you haven't heard from in a while you just KNOW it's a pregnancy announcment It was of course, along with pictures of her 2 year old and of another friend's wedding - I didn't even know she was getting married! I feel so out of touch with everyone.

On top of that, I temp and when I plugged my temps into FF this morning, it told me I ovulated 3 days ago. which is at least 4 days earlier than normal for me. Feeling like the mc is really messing up my cycle and although I'm pleased to ovulate earlier on a regular basis, I would've appreciated a bit of a warning in the form of some EWCM! We did BD day of and day after, but I'm just hoping we didn't miss it. There's nothing worse, really, than the feeling that the thing you've been waiting for for weeks has come and gone without you even realizing it! {sigh}

thanks everyone, for your kind words. My DH said the same quarkee about a less stressful job being better for ttc & a young family anyway. I have been in my company for a long time and built up a great benefits package - I would struggle to get such a good maternity package if I move. I just feel trapped (and emotional) a bad mix!!

clairePO I don't think that they can just 'demote' me but unfortunately this restructure is an excuse for alot of rather dubious moves. I could fight them for a redundancy but at the same time want my maternity package, I wait untilI have calmed down until I make any decisions. They know my feelings about how that conference call went yesterday, so the ball is in their court.

quarkee great about that PD consultant's appointment and the research programme.

Thanks also mistle am really glad it worked out for you. How was it announcing you were pregnant just after you started a new job?

PrePG I am so sorry - I know exactly what you mean about the emails from friends and the 'feeling' out of touch. I hope your day gets better.

So frustrating about the temping & the O'ing early!!

Speaking of messed up cycles...I forgot to ask earlier (too busy feeling sorry for myself) but has anyone had a 2 day AF straight in the first cycle after a mc? I had one day on unbelievabley heavy AF, one day of normal / heavy and by yesterday it has stopped completely?

NSNA - was a bit about telling them which I did at 14wks when it was getting a bit obvious. Although I had been eating constantly most of the time I had been there so I can't see how anyone failed to notice apart from the fact that they didn't know me properly then!

The good thing was that I had made it obvious during my 'interview' (which was more like a chat) that I was trying for a family and would want to drop from 4 to 3 days after mat leave.

They were good in that I got full stat. mat leave rather than the reduced one that they could have gone for.

Well cd 25 2 bfn preg tests and no signs
feeling down though i had thought it was later than 25 days so have cheered up a little after working that out for you guys

seriously feeling like I'm never gonna get pregnant. Had a really emotional (lots of crying) few days which i usually get 3 days before.

I normally eat a lot of carrots (I'm Veggie) so that has to go in my favour, but not so much on the grapefruit front

But at least I don't have a job to get stressed about though I would be looking for one if I wasn't so busy trying to get pregnant. thats a whole other putting my life on hold issue I have.

probably TMI here but how can you tell between cm and erm his stuff going the wrong way

nsna I had lots of random on off bleeding with it coming and going, lightening and then getting heavy again but no 2 day stop and no more hth

aquababe thanks - it was obviously a 'false' alarm as AF arrived back in force this morning (probably while I was typing my message ) Maybe it needed a break?

I read something about telling the difference between semen & cm. In water one will float and the other not - but can't remember which! (that is a science experiment with a difference)

Thanks nsna
that has at least cheered me up thinking of ways to test it

hmmm....my mind is running wild!!

It's weird how different everyone is, I'm wondering how confused my body is. I managed to carry 2 pregnancies no problem, in a very stressful job, commuting, etc etc, and now that I live 15min drive from a part time job that is a major step down from what I used to do, and live in a much less stressful environment generally, I have two m/c
How long are you cycles normally Aqua, is cd25 late for you?
I have completely stopped bleeding now which is good, and gynae even said yesterday I may well get af during the next 4wks before I see him again. I asked if I could also fall pregnant during the next 4wks and he said definitely, but probably best to wait until I've had the all clear in 4wks. Figured I do a pregnancy test after 2wks and see what that said and then see
PrepG, sounds like you bd'd on the right days to catch the egg, without even realising.

Scully - def do hpt - but I would suggest that you go for an expensive one - I know that it's completely pants spending ££ when you want to get a -ve, but otherwise you'll be worrying that it might have been a different result if you'd got an expensive one. And I wouldn't go for a digital one either. At least with a line, if it is a faint line, its a faint line, whilst with the digital test I'd be worried that it might not pick up a low level HCG amount and still test -ve [perhaps that's just me being paranoid!]

All this floating or not conversations - don't have that trouble, have to estimate myself the best time to 'jump' dh and hope for the best and the chances of 'jumping' him 2 days running

Scully I'm anything from 26 to 36 days though 36 is unusual. last one I was 26 before that 28 before that 36. mc was dec so first af after was 30.
so i probably am being a little pessimistic.

but I thought I got cm on day 12 but thinking now maybe it erm wasn't.

I managed to jump dh pretty much every 36 hrs from cd10 to cd19(lucky he's a teacher and half term was in the right place!)

I guess it's because I put so much 'hard work' into it this month I'm probably putting too much emphasis (and going a little crazy)

somebody needs to hide tests until I'm a least late for one of my dates

Aqua My DH will hide your tests for you in the same place he hides mine, and he won't let you have one even if you shout at him, so he's a pretty safe bet!

NSNA - and for you. That is just so crap and you must be furious. Is there any way at all you could manage without the maternity package and just leave and take temporary work? I've left two intolerable jobs without anywhere to go to, and each time I can honestly say the relief made it well worth while and other things did come along very quickly. I wasn't ttc then, but stil... Don't know how old you are, but if not too ancient then maybe it really is worth waiting ttc. You might find things happen quicker than you think re getting a new job - if you leave you'll have all your attention to give to finding something new. You never know, you could be in a good job with a decent package and ttc again in less than a year. And I hope this doesn't sound crass, but it might be that you get pg quicker and/or have a better outcome if you are happier and less stressed, so staying where you are now might actually be a false 'safety net'. If that makes any sense at all. Sorry to go on, but having been there more than once, I feel really strongly about getting away from somewhere that is poisonous and you are not treated well).

Hugs for everyone feeling low and yay to quarkee for 'decades' and the research programme.

hello all,

wow this thread has been busy. Sorry people are having a hard time.

I am temping this month - more out of interest than any hope it will result in pg... I am away for 3 niths and back for 2 nights before DH goes away for 5 nights right when I am supposed to ov so not much hope this month.

hello can i join you? I have just had my third mc. Feeling very down, the gp won't refer me for tests as i had my dd after my first m/c. I so want to be pregnant and want to try again straight away but my dh wants to wait a while and give my body a break. i can understand waht he's saying but I just don't want to! wishing everyone lots of luck!!

Hi titchy - sorry you've had to join us. I'm lucky in that I've been referred to recurrent mc unit after 3mc despite having ds after the 1st - although 1st one was complicated by mp and there is always the shadow of that looming each time I have mc - and 2nd mc took ages to settle back down to bfn...

You're very welcome to join the group of us madly symptom spotting, temping, counting, wishing for bfns and bfps and the rest of it!

titchy hello - sorry you had to find us but good to meet you! CAnt believe GP's attitude - you must be I know I would be - have you tried lying at his/her feet and begging???

Just had a call with my boss re (lack of promotion) so am all again...but not as bad as Friday so I'm obviuosly getting used to it which must be a good thing. Am due to ov this weekend i think so will put all thoughts of work out of my head as its not too conducive to BDing really is it

Hi titchy so for you, and at docs! Why can't they just sort people out when they need it not when they think the time is right? I have only had one MC, and am hoping and praying for no more, but it tore me apart for months.
Daisy - thanks for acupuncturist but live in south east essex so a bit far! LOL
Hope everyone else is okay?
xx