2ww and the bit in between. BFP's we're waiting!

[Bucky2008]

Maybe a nice shiny new thread will get us all enthusiastic again. I am on my rubbish diet so I only have nuts and beans to put out on the table. Oh and gin of course ;o) Anyone got any cakes to tempt me with?

Ding ding....let's...go

Do you think I have gone a bit mad

thats good emma at least they are taking you seriously good luck with th results
xx ei xx

Thats brilliant news Emma that they're being so thorough this time - have my fingers crossed that you get to the bottom of it all soon!

PnM is requesting that, in 1 months time, all 2ww'ers remind her that her boobs got sore 5 days before af arrival as that is what has happened today and I know that I am not preg this month (totally missed the egg and feeling quite liberated that I can be the bench mark this month for all non pg related symptoms ) and that it is entirely natural to be exhausted if one has been up and working since 7.30 and is still sat in front of the laptop now and that it is nothing to do with pregnancy

Hope everyone else is going to have a fab weekend (I'm working - another reason to find a new fab job!).

Speak to you all soon!

PnM x

Morning ladies!

Sorry for not being around for a couple of days, work got really manic, and then i was out yesterday at the Nelson Mandela concert, which was fantastic!!!!!

Welcome to Emma, Lou, & Hoping
Emma - hope you get some answers soon. Sounds like the nurse was really good, at least they have taken it seriously.

Caitni hope you are having a lovely weekend, and that the wedding goes well. Have you got a lovely bridesmaid dress?

SH Hope that egg waits until Sunday! I can't believe that it is that time for you already.

Bucky Any news? Hope that miserable AF has stayed away. If she has turned up, hope you're ok.

PnM Horrible that you have to work this weekend. Fingers crossed that a nice new job turns up soon!

Hello also to GG EI Beanie hatty mibbes JB MTW abby

Well, DH "did the deed" yesterday. As he had the day off, he said that he would go and do it down there. I asked him if they had facilities for that - as the paperwork didn't mention anything, and just said about getting it there within the hour. He said that the GP had said it could be done there, so off he went. Sometime later i got a phone call, and he said that it was done, but he had to go and do it in the toilets, as they don't have any rooms or anything!! He has to sit there, listening to "plopping" (as he put it) from the other cubicles, which didn't really pput him in the mood!!! I was roaring with laughter He then spent the rest of the morning saying "oh, i feel so sweaty & shakey", then in the evening said "oh, i think i've recovered from this morning"!!! Good grief it was only a w*nk!!! (poor man, he doesn't get much sympathy from me) I told him that i was going to relay his trauma to you lot, and his disappointment that he didn't get a room with lots of DVDs! He was worried that he wasn't able to "aim" very well, but hopefully they have enough to test - we should be able to get the results in a week.

Not much to report from my point of view, particularly as like you, PnM, there is virtually no chance of anything, as we only BD once, the day after ov. It feels quite good, actually, as i know i can't get my hopes up, so like you i am using it to try and objectively monitor my cycle. Slightly sore boobs ATM, but that's about it.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

hey MOB. Glad he delivery was made safely pmsl at the 'plopping' too funny. I needed a smile, as I have evil AF here with me trying to p*ss me off .

Watching Amy Winehouse at Glastonbury on TV, trying to decide if she is drunk or just naturally a bit weird. If she mentions Blake one more time I may vom.

She's wierd Bucky and probably slightly pissed all of the time. There is something really uncomfortable about watching someone so painfully thin trying to move in a way that is sexy. I think there is something very wrong with her, poor girl.
My God, poor Mr MOB (although LOL here too...). Not even low quality NHS porn or a sexy nurse to help him on his way? That is pretty miserable.

No news here, we're still trying to catch the egg and my temp hasn't gone up yet, but I am having cramps. One slight worry that I have is that I have booked a holiday for the start of August and if I do get pregnant I will have to get a scan the week before and if it is another ep we'll end up cancelling. But I guess I have to cross that bridge if I ever get there....

Right, sorry I don't have time to say hello to the rest of you, I am potty training a small person and can't take my eyes off her for very long!! See you later

Evening all,

just back from Edinburgh and caught up on everyone's news.

SH totally agree about Amy Winehouse, the fact that she's so talented but so wasted makes me very uncomfortable (and vaguely depressed). I caught some of the highlights and her hip gyrating, with her spindly little arms, was most disturbing...

MOB I was almost literally PMSL at your DH's adventures I actually read it out to my own DH, who had a lot of sympathy (apparently I'm also very unsympathetic to his man ailments so he was like "poor man, sounds really stressful. You'd react the exact same way" etc etc - to be honest, that made me giggle even more!). And glad to hear Mandela concert was amazing!!

Bucky I'm so sorry AF arrived. Hope you're feeling better and had a good weekend.

PnM poor you working so late on a Friday. Hope your weekend was extra good after all that hard work

Ei hope your egg arrived today (and also yours SH) Emma I had seen you on another thread and am utterly shocked at that doctor's reaction. Glad to hear that you got on better with the nurse, though it's so hard to communicate that you haven't got your hopes up, you just want to know what's what (which is perfectly reasonable). I really hope your faint positive becomes a BFP soon. PnM's right that some women don't get thick BFPs until weeks after ov, so I'm crossing all my fingers for you (but, er, not literally, or there'd be no typing!).

HopingCat have you any symptoms?

Lou glad to hear you've lots of symptoms! I know the feeling about wanting a baby (been ttc since Jan and the only thing I want more than a BFP is the baby )

GG it's so funny, but since you told me what a gorgon was the word has popped up twice this past week...hope you're well.

Big wave and happy Sunday to everyone else.

The wedding in Edinburgh was great, the bridesmaid dress was gorgeous (and after all my worry about fitting into it it fit like perfectly - phew!), my friend was the model bride, so relaxed and beautiful, and the venue was stunning. Just about the only "symptom" I have is that I was quite teary throughout the ceremony, and then the speeches (and when we left her parents house) but I'm a sucker for weddings so not reading much into it. I also have a funny feeling in my stomach, which is probably down to all the good food I've had. And a couple of sleep deprived nights have thrown my temps quite low, so my chart's looking odd. I'm pretty convinced I'm not pg though, AF is due on Wed and fully expecting it. So I'm sticking to my not testing early promise!

The car also broke down in the Lake District on Thurs, after we drove through some flooded roads in pouring rain. So we had to hitch to the nearest village (no mobile reception where we were) in the rain so we could call out the mechanic. At least we were right next to Ullswater while waiting for a car to stop (and some good samaritans did stop for us!) so had some stunning scenery to enjoy . It was all fine in the end - the car had a lovely long weekend in Penrith being fixed while we trained it up to Edinburgh and we picked it up today. Stressful at the time but very funny now that we've had such a great weekend!

Love
C
x

Oh MOB too funny about your DH and his sample prodcution ! Just had to post that you have made me PMSL at work , it is good that he has willingly gone for the test and seems to be treating the situation with a good sense of humour which I reckon must be difficult for men.

Bucky so sorry the old cow got you {{hugs}} when is your op ? Hopefully once you have been all flushed out a wee bean will settle down in there for 9 months xx

hello all, have been away for a few days, so couldn't post here. Hope everyone had a lovely weekend.

Amy Winehouse is definitely off her head. I saw her at Brixton Academy last year and while she has a brilliant voice, she could hardly stand, was covered in bruises, kept ranting incoherantly about "my Blakey" and was twitching constantly and tugging at her hair/bra straps/teeny-tiny twinkle skimmer skirt. All thr while, swigging from a bottle of "water" . She was also 1 hr 20 mins late on stage

Bucky - nooooo about AF turning up . Not long now until your holiday and then you'll be having your op in no time. Have you got a new pair of holiday sandals yet to replace the ones Molly chewed? Go and treat yourself

Caitni - glad the wedding was lovely. I always weep at happy events too. Put a profile of you in your lovely bridesmaid dress on your profile

MOB - Oh your poor DH, although I haven't stopped laughing yet at the "plopping" sounds. . My DH can certainly symathise at the awkwardness and embarrassment, although he got to do it in the wanky porbn room with DVD's. Glad you enjoyed the Nelson Mandela concert - I am very of you going. I live pretty close to there, so we threw open the windows on Friday night and listened to the music drifting in from the park.

PnM - I have diarised for July "5 days from her AF, PnM gets sore (.)(.)" . It's on my wall calendar at work in red letters.....Nahhh, only joking!
Emma - how are you today? Have you had any more news?

Hello to everyone else - sorry for the quick post. Nothing much to report from me -my Mum's extended 60th birthday celebrations continued and I am bl**dy worn out. I don;t knwo how the olds managed it. I am around CD10 or CD11, so DH is on alert to perform . Half of me thinks "Why am I bothering after our results?" and the other half of me can't break the habit and you have to be in it to win it,

Hope everyone is enjoying the sunshine (or at least that it is sunny with you!)

GGx

Good afternoon everyone

Bucky So, so sorry to hear that AF turned up. Hope you can go away soon and really enjoy your holidays, then i hope that when you have your op, just the act of them "poking about" will soon lead to a lovely BFP for you. I have this image in my head of a "chimney sweep" type person getting in there with one of those special brushes and having a good "sweep around" which will allow your DH's swimmers to go sailing through to the egg! Sorry - am not making light of it - just trying to explain the image i have in my head! (Although why i've got an image of your reproductive bits & pieces in my head in the first place is probably a question that should be asked... )

SH Did you manage to catch the egg - or has it not appeared yet? Try not to worry about any potential problems, and having to cancel your hols (easier said than done, though, i know)

Caitni I will let DH know that your DH sympathised!!! Glad you had a lovely weekend - wow even your car had a seperate weekend away Am really hoping that AF doesn't show up for you.

Mibbes Good to see you - how are you and Miblet?

GG Sounds like you had a good if exhausting weekend. You and DH better carry on BDing - you never know (I won't bore you with the story about my friends again - but it is an example NEVER to give up)

Just to add to the Amy Winehouse discussions - she was at the NM concert, and she has a wonderful voice, but definitely didn't look comfortable on stage (vacant stare, kept pulling her skirt right up, couldn't dance)There is something about her though, her talent, her vunerability, that draws people to her. There was a real feeling of support and love from the crowd. i only hope she can feel that and realise the affection that people feel for her, and sort herself out. I'm pleased to have seen her, particularly as if she carries on the way she is, she won't be with us much longer. That sound an awful thing to say, but she looked so thin and ill, and so much older than her years.

On a lighter note, i will let DH know that the tale of his trauma has given you all a laugh!! Poor man, i think underneath it all he is getting rather anxious about the results. He really has convinced himself that he is a "jaffa" (seedless ) as he so eloquently puts it!!! I have to admit that i feel anxious too, as whatever the results bring, we will be starting on the medical path in one way or another. Either he will have a problem, and we will need referring or he hasn't, and i will need to start a battery of tests.

AF due here any time from Tuesday - Thursday. As i said before, absolutely no chance of being pregnant this cycle, and i think DH & i are quite relieved to not be on the whole "am i / aren't i" rollercoaster this month. Maybe we subconsciously planned it this way to have a little bit of a break. My body is still trying to convince me i have symptoms, though - have huge veiny boobs ATM (and yes, they are as unattractive as they sound ) but i just think "ha! you can through any symptom you like at me, i will remain calm, as i know i can't be pg!" I think my body is deliberately making up symptoms just to test me!!

Wow, i have wittered on, haven't i? I really must shut up and do some work

Oh, and GG - i couldn't help but notice that you've been talking to the IVF ladies. Now, of course we don't mind, and i'm sure they're all lovely, but don't forget, they will never love you as much as we do!!!

hi ladies
MOB sorry but at your poor DH and his w*ing in the poopy loo story very funny!!
bucky sorry TEW got you hun
GG wow you seem to be away more than you are home your name isnt judith chalmers is it??
caitni sounds like an eventful weekend for you then?? glad you had a good time
PnM sorry you missed the egg boat this cycle but i KNOW it will be your turn soon
well looks like i Oved right on schedule my temp shot up this morning and was low yesterday so i think it was yesterday while i was doing race for life i power-walked the 5k and my sister lagged behind moaning the entire way she has had to stay off work today as she is so unfit me and my best mate are fine and dandy i must be fitter than i thought lol
me and DH did the deed on staurday so heres hoping we get a sticky BFP this cycle if not then i am hoping for AF and nothing in the grey area in between
hi to everyone not mentioned
xx ei xx

Hello all

Got slightly confused by the namechange GG! That sounds very positive about the Christmas IVF - everything crossed for you.

Bucky so sorry that AF turned up. Did you go to the docs to get checked out in the end?

MOB your poor poor DH! How excruciatingly embarrassing for him!

Ei and everyone playing the waiting game - fingers and toes crossed for you!

All good here. Had a lovely break at my mums and then down to see some friends at the seaside. Throughly spoilt and got out of any cooking/housework for a whole week. Am trying to remind myself not to just wander downstairs at 7.30 tonight expecting to be offered a drink as my meal is prepared!

Am 15 weeks today and feeling okay, still a bit bilious and pretty knackered but happy.

Would give anything to see one of you on a ante-natal thread, will wish very very hard and send lots of lucky vibes.

Hello all,
still madly symptom spotting, No Evil Witch as yet!
Have been very tearful and sleepy all day, am going to hold off till weds to test though as think that will be best. I cant stand the early BFN crash. It gets me every month although i promise myself i wont test.
Found a website that tells you the right day to test according to your cycle. I'll put it here in case anyone is interested.

I always struggle to know with stoopid irregular cycles.
Hope everyone else is doing ok today!
x

hi hatty wow time has flown 15 weeks already almost halfway glad to hear you are well
xx ei xx

lou that site is interesting where did you find it? it has told me that the earliest i should test is 8th july and i should expect AF on 12th july which is 2 days later than i have in my diary wel see who is right then as my AF often goes AWOL in the baby-making efforts only to appear a few days later dazed and confused i do like the site though
when are you due to test? things sound quite positive for you from what you have told us
xx ei xx

Caitni Read on..I am starting to get my hopes up!! Glad you had a good weekend...the car saga sounds hilarious, exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me!!

GG I am good today...apart from developing an infection in my wisdom tooth which has prevented me sleeping allweekend!!

Ei I did the race for life in Manchester, it absolutely chucked it down! Soaked to the skin...even my hair dye ran onto my t-shirt! It felt good when we finished though! Glad your not all achey!!!

I have just tested again...I know I know, I did't use FMU! But it as another positive...thats 2 in a row, one on thursday with FMU and one today not using FMU I am really trying hard not to get my hopes up!! Keep reminding myself what the nurse said, one possible reason for the inconsistent test results is that there might be a problem with the pregnancy.

How is everyone else?!

emma excellent news on the BFPs!! maybe do another in the morning as if you got a BFP without using FMU then its likely you will get a nice strong one in the morning and BTW just because you have inconsitency in your results it DOESNT mean there is something wrong with the preg!! when i was preg with DD i didnt get a strong BFP until i was about 5 weeks or so and i had all BFNs until then and that was a faint one with FMU so every preg is different some women test positive very early on and never waver and then lose the preg and some never have a BFP and have very healthy babies at the end of it (my mum had a preg like that with my brother!! she 'knew she was preg and pestered the doc into sending her for a scan and when they scanned her she was 11 weeks gone!!)
best of luck hun xx
xx ei xx

jumping over to join this thread if i may...
currently on cycle #2 of ttc#2. cuurently day 14 of 28/30 day cycle. have been using the opk this month, the £££ clearblue digital. was expecting my today, as think i have some ewcm but the darn thing came up with error! took the test stick out and there are two distinct lines (left one is fainter than the right one). dont know whether the digital opk follows the same guides as the 'normal' opk? if the left line is fainter then its probably not O-time yet...but wondering whether the digital ones work differently?? ho hum....wil bd just in case. any ideas?
incidently - how do you tell the difference between ewcm & semen???

Emma - tentative congratulations. Can you get them to refer you to an Early Preg Unit to find out what's going on? At least if you did they might do serial beta HCGs that would give you a better idea of how things are going.

Ei lucky you ov-ing on schedule. Fingers crossed for a sticky one this month for you.

GG (AKA Judith), I noticed you hanging about on the IVF thread (no reason for me to be there... I am just nosy when I should be working) and lovely though those ladies are I hope you don't leave us. The IVF stuff is like another language, isn't it? Still, it's got to be worth it.

Bucky I hope you're feeling ok.

Glad you're feeling ok Hattyyellow. It's good to hear nice news from our graduates.

Hi to the rest of you, Lou, Mibbes, DG (if you're ever lurking), Caitni (glad you had a good weekend) and everyone else.

MOB your use of the word "jaffa" reminded me of something. The last time I heard someone say their husband thought he might be a jaffa, the next thing I knew she was pregnant with naturally conceived twins! So you'd better watch out! If the same happens to you you can name them "Seville" and "Valencia" (either of which is better than Naval and Mandarin...) . And those veiny boobs sound like a sign to me.

Picknmix I'm also getting an Outlook reminder about your sore breasts.

No news here. Am still waiting for that elusive egg. It's very wierd. This morning I had tons of EWCM and then it vanished. I just hope I did not ov today as we omitted to have sex yesterday... Unfortunately I spent the evening cleaning vomit off myself and the furniture after my offspring decided to get sick. Following which DH and I were not entirely in the mood. Hope to get a quickie in tonight before we both start puking too! (see this is what all of you first timers have to look forward to !!) Anyway, I have had lots of patches of EWCM this cycle, but no temp rise so am still waiting. Bring on that egg! I want to be on my wait too!

Evening all,

I have been out shopping for my camping extravaganza - due to leave tomorrow and am everso slightly concerned about the weather reports (thunder and lightening under canvas anyone!?) so have been purchasing serious equipment for wet weather including MP3 player speakers (to drown out the thunder) and a PSP (to counteract the boredom of being confined under said canvas).....

Bucky am very sorry to hear af has arrived. Hope you're feeling ok? Give the doggies a big cuddle and then do some serious holiday shopping for some replacement sandals (far more exciting than my holiday purchases )

Hello to Dinky - as far as I know, you're recommended not to remove the digital strips from their packaging as they will always show two lines so will be confusing. Or is the hpts? Erm..... Maybe I should stick to saying not sure and bd just in case

No egg yet SH?? You need to do an egg dance in the garden for it (and a sun dance for me whilst you're at it please - egocentric, me?!). Your poor little one though, hope the sickness goes quickly and you and DH don't get it!

Caitni the wedding sounds like it was lovely - sorry to hear about the car tho..... Pleased to hear you can laugh about it now though . Have all things crossable crossed for you for wednesday

Emma a very tentative congrats from me here too - let us know when you get your blood results back from the dr's.

WELL DONE EI on completing your 5k run - am that you weren't achey today as a result!! Glad to also hear you think you've caught the egg

Poor old MrMOB!!! His story has pure comedy value though and I shall regale it to DH in a sec. Well done him for going though, how long will the results take?

Great link Lou! Good symptom spotting as well, will hopefully come back from hols to a bfp for you!

Hi to Hatty!! Lovely to 'see' you and that you are 15 weeks already!!

Last but in no means least a big hello to GG! Of course you have to be in it to win it! And you just never know what might happen..... You're weekend sounds good but tiring, glad the extortionate flights were worth it

I'm off now - but I'm sure I'll pop in at some point in the week, depends just how rainy it is - plus af is due to arrive ON MY ANNIVERSARY - rubbish!!!

See you all soon

PnM xx

"Your" not "You're weekend sounds good but tiring"

hello lovely ladies.

Scary - ha ha, so I have been spotted on the IVF threads . Scary will need to change her name to Nancy Drew . I sort of know nomoremagnolia on the IVF thread because she was on the original TTC threads when I joined MN in Dec 2006, a few months further on. Everyone else got lucky 'cept us. I thought I'd introduce myself to the IVF-ers even though nothing will happen for months and months for me. It all seems a loooong way off, but I thought I'd better start swotting up and get the grips with the, frankly, baffling terminology. I am now fluent in all forms of TTC, so now for the slog to learn IVF . This "downregging" stuff is all new and I'll admit to being absolutely bl**dy terrified and pretty overwhelmed by how invasive IVF is . But I have to stay and symptom spot with you lot and encourage everyone on the 2WW to get lots of BFP's so I can be a Cyber Auntie.

Bucky - did you manage to get new sandals? When are you off on your hols? Are you still up for a meet up in London? Exmouth Market sounds a likely place if anyone is up for it.

ei - ha ha, yes you can call me Judith Calmers. I am not travelling anywhere now for a few weeks. JC always seemed to go to lovely beaches and beautiful villages. I end up in less glamerous locations Glasgow anyone...?

emma - ooouch! I can sympathise with an infected wisdom tooth - happened to me once [in pain emoticon]

Does anyone else get hayfever here? I have been merrily taking my antihistimine, mainly because I would be unable to breathe or see without drugs, but my goodness do they dry up EWCM . Does anyone else find the same thing? I know AH's are not meant to be good news, but I can't see an alternative if I want to live normally through the summer. I don't think I have had any EWCM in the last two cycles (or none that I noticed ) since the pollen season started. That's not going to help matters, is it?

picknmix - you are brave going camping in storms . I did the Duke Of Edinburgh award scheme at school, which involved yomping across the hills like squaddies for days on end with trench foot developing, bivouacking in some seriously wild places in the Highlands and enduring pretty "interesting" weather. It put me off camping for life. Maybe it would be fun in summer in the south and I should have another go . Currently, the mere throught of a primus stove and digging a compost lav makes me come over all faint and pine for Frette sheets and Molton Brown hand creme in the en suite

MOB - my DH used to joke about being a "jaffa" and "shooting blanks", but he is less jokey about it now, but I can understand how worrie dhe must feel . When does your DH get his results?

mibbes, jolly and hatty - hello to the lovely preganant ladies. Don't forget your roots and and your old friends from where you started on MN on the 2WW. We all love ya!

Ok, I am off to do some work before I am sacked for slacking at my desk. It's dead quiet in the office today so I am trying to look dead busy by making "To Do" lists and being super organised with personal admin and household chores. List making and cleaning appeals to my inner "Aggie" . DH calls it nesting, but I'll need some little eggs in my nest and chicks on the way before I can call it that myself.

Hello to anyone missed!

I have done a clearblue digital with FMU....it says "Pregnant"

Emma congrats on your CB BFP! Yay!! Maybe still get in touch with your local EPU so they can put your mind at rest.

GG glad the celebrations were fun - and you totally have to be in it to win it! So just keep banging away (that, btw, is a direct quote from my mother, who was with us in Edinburgh and that was the pearl of wisdon she offered when I tentatively broached the subject of ttc - it made me laugh). And a whole new lingo to learn...I think you're v wise to be hanging out with the IVF ladies (though no forgetting us!) as it's the best way to get your head around it. So much better than just relying on what consultants tell you...
PnM You sound v organised! Hope your camping extravaganza is brilliant and hoping the sun shines for you . Have a great holiday!

SH vomit, that old passion-killer. Hope your DD is doing better (and that you and your DH haven't been struck down). And hope that egg shows up soon (lol at PnM's egg dance tip!)

Dinky I've no idea about the OPK, but I do use the CB Monitor and it took one cycle for it to get to "know" my cycle so maybe something similar is happening to you? Really no clue though, so maybe someone else has more experience. And semen snaps more quickly than EWCM when you stretch it between your fingers. Hope that makes sense!

Ei well done you on the 5k! Fingers crossed that egg is well and truly caught

Lou v interesting site - thanks! It tells me my period should start today, while FF tells me it should start tomorrow. I'm also a bit confused because my cycles, since I've been tracking them, seem to vary from 22 days to 25 days so not yet 100% sure what my "average" length will be until this current one ends (it's been the longest since I've been properly charting).

MOB Your DH probably is anxious, but he's lucky to have such a perceptive wife - it sounds like you have good communication, so I hope he can get things off his chest. My DH had a sperm test a year after finishing treatment for testicular cancer and I remember how anxious he was (and how anxious I was!).

to Bucky (any more chewed footwear?), Mibbes, Hatty, Abby and everyone else.

I had some very light spotting last night (which has started 2 days before AF the last few cycles) so am on official knicker watch now, expecting AF anytime, though my temp is still above my coverline though heading south. I'm actually less depressed by this than I was last month...but then last month I fervently believed I was pg and was heartbroken when it arrived. I just don't think I could go through that again this month. Still, disappointing all the same. So I'm going to definitely make an accpuncture app for this month.

Fingers crossed for everyone else on their wait. Hope we get some more BFPs. Now best head off and actually get some work done!!
Cx

Er, that would be accupuncture and not accpuncture!