TTC May 2023 💖 Previous MC March 2023 (thread 2)

[Sez281]

Hi ladies, just thought I'd create a new thread for anybody that wants to continue.
@Jadeypie
@Westy22
@Freddie15VES
@fleur89
@Strawb28
@DmcinT
@HopeAndStrength
@xxcxdonxx
And @SnookyPook for if/when you feel like you might want to come back xx

Sorry if I've forgotten anybody, I realise most of you guys have had your BFPs and there's only a few off us left waiting, but at least you know the thread is here so come back and keep us updated with all your lovely pregnancy stories 😊 For those of us still here, hopefully it won't be too much longer 🙏💖 xx

@Westy22 opks are just a bloody waste of time for me. They just stress me out more haha.
@Supertrooper101 so is the preseed the only difference this month for you? And I agree partners just havnt got a clue hHa. I don't understand... if progesterone helps with pregnancy ect then why isn't it mandatory? Or is there risks if u don't need it? What does it actually do if you do take it? Sorry for all the questions haha xx

@SnookyPook thats exactly what i am going to do! Lol... there in a different mimd to us,maybe its cos we feel every little thing and instintly worry 🤷‍♀️...
@Jadeypie preseed and seed cycling...i tried some herbs from chinese lady but only for probably 3 days. I started acupunture 3mths ago also.
. the epu said they wont give it until a scan cos if its eptopic then the progesterone feeds the eptopic. She first said yes to it after a viable scan, coa of my age, then later when she rang back after speaking to the clinic she then said that dribble about 3 loses bla d bla.... tbh, one loss is hard enough. Things need to be changed.

For those who has chemical ones, whats the deal witth those? Do the tests just start showing negative? Then you come on? Got acupuncture tomorrow,see what tips she has. Normally hot food and feet in hot water. Cold feet =cold womb! She always says that and i always have cold feet lol

@Supertrooper101 my chemicals were just really faint positives and when I tested the next day just got lighter until they were negative. I always tested before my period too so I probably wouldn’t have known if I hadn’t as my period was never much later than usual.
After my last mc I was speaking to a midwife in the hospital who said the plan long term was for everyone to be given progesterone when pregnant as standard so I don’t really understand why it seems like such a battle to get hold of it just now.
That’s so interesting about the cold feet comment, mines are always freezing!!

Crazy day in work so just catching up. @Supertrooper101 It's a joke about the 3 losses thing 😕 . So many other factors should be taken into consideration. OH's really don't have a clue either do they. The good thing is that like me at 41 if I get BFP you'll surely get extra monitoring when they eventually see you? I'm going to start acupuncture soon, I've used preseed (well conceive + but I assume they're the same) I like it too!

@Jadeypie and @Westy22 have you started temping? If you don't like opks it could be a great option.

I'm close to fertile window and can't even think about it as I'm so busy in work and will be in all weekend too. Part of me feel like maybe we should just take a break this month as starting ovulation induction stuff next cycle anyway 🤷‍♀️

@Sez281 I would agree with taking a break, before all the madness with trigger shots ect and have a relaxing month. You might get obsessed next month with it all being new and symtom spotting might be worse ect.

What temp thermometer would u suggest? I'm going to give it ago xx

@Jadeypie I use the Premom one. It's definitely more accurate when you wake at same time each morning and do it with your eyes practically still closed. I've found that mine is starting to vary a lot and think I sleep with my mouth open lol so I might start doing it vaginaly. I enter the results in the Premom app but also fertility friend as the chart is better on that I think. It's interesting as FF seems to show that by temping I actually ovulate on same day as opk peak and I anyways thought it was the day after 🧐 Digital Basal Thermometer for Ovulation with Backlight LCD Display, Premom APP, 1/100th Degree High Precision and Memory Recall, Ovulation Tracking, Charting &Natural Family Planning, Purple amzn.eu/d/ab5WZQC

@Sez281 if it’s going to be all systems go next month then I think taking a break would be a good idea just to take the pressure off for a bit.

Cyclogest Q if you don’t mind. I’m only on day 2 so still getting used to it but is it normal to have some discharge with it? Sorry 🫣
I seemed to be ok last night as I just inserted when going to bed but having to wear a liner even after lying down for 20mins this morning. I had some brown spotting yesterday but not as much today, I think my body is just giving up at times!

@xxcxdonxx ill maybe do the tests a few more days then to see whats what. Am in two minda , be in the dark or know strate away if sumats wrong. Pissed of that not bleeding is not a sign things are ok after the mmc...no idea about the progesterone, no one will give me it 🤣
@Sez281 if my thermometer is taking ages i always shine my phone torch on it to see if its still on lol so my temps must be way off lol my dip would ways happen the day of ovulation along side a postive opk and side pains too, then my temp would spike 1 to 2 days after.... i used the conceive one too becore but found pressed grabbed it more lol i have no idea what extra help ill get. Probably b the same as last time re consulatant after 14wks due to age. Do you think ul have a mth of trying then 🤔 lol think you should give acupuncture a go, if anything it might relax you and reduce your prolactin. Mine gave me some charcole stick things today, light em like a fag and hover over the stomach or anywhere really that hurts, and just keep flicking the ash away as it burns down haha
@Jadeypie i got the purple fememometer of amazon. 9pd i think. @Sez281 sounds more fancy tho lol

@xxcxdonxx I've been on cyclogest pessaries for a week now and I get lots of discharge with them. I'm pretty sure it's normal! Although sometimes I wonder what's actually left inside to be doing anything 😂

@Supertrooper101 I hear you on the 'not bleeding is not a sign things are ok after MMC. Aside from the couple of hours immediately after a scan, I feel like I've no way of trusting what's going on in there. Another week to my next scan and the anxiety has just started ramping up again. 😩 Sorry for nerdy physics reference but I've been thinking of it like Schroedinger's Baby... It's both there and not there until observed 😐

@SnookyPook ahh thank you, that’s helpful. Yes I wondered the same as it seems to all be making its way back out! 🤣

@Supertrooper101 I know what you mean, and can’t decide if I have preferred to know about them or not. I always felt once I got a clearly visible line then I felt ok to stop testing.

@Supertrooper101 lovely to see ur news, congrats and everything crossed it all goes great now 🤞🏽🙏🏽 I can confirm that worry (after MMC) never goes away but it goes get slightly easier to manage the further on u get❤️

@Sez281 the break before the all consuming next few months sounds like a great idea❤️ it is hard to not become completely absorbed by it all, all the time. I deff don’t think our OHs have the same intensity around that so just don’t get it when we are so emotional by the slightest thing sometimes.

Hope everyone else’s new year is off to a good start and 🤞🏽 for all the new cycles starting🥰 I used to always think about how the first day of AF could be the first day of a new pregnancy and I think it really helped x

@xxcxdonxx i was on cyclogest from the very start until 28 weeks in this pregnancy and I can confirm there was a good bit of discharge esp on days where I couldn’t lie down for very long. Putting it in before bed was grand but in the mornings I’d have 20-30 mins allocated to lie flat once it was in, I always noticed a good bit of discharge. I assume enough stays in thou🎉 Hope that helps x

@SnookyPook its a worse feeling then not getting a postive test as selfish as that sounds. Just dunt shift. Managed to get an actual bloody blood test to confirm whether i am or not tomorrow. I had to lie and say i was spotting.. wtaf. Why do they make it so hard for us just to give us that tiny bit of peace of mind. Gow far along will you be on your next scan?

@Supertrooper101 it's awful isn't it. There isn't always much compassion. Although I have also experienced some wonderful care from some of the professionals but it does seem a bit hit and miss who you're going to get.

I should be 10 weeks at my next scan. I measured 8 at the last one with a good heartbeat so Bubba had already made it further than my MMC last year (which stopped developing at 7+5) but it's all around very similar time and I found out about that one at a scan at 11+4 so I think I'm going to feel a bit on edge for at least a couple more weeks. Having said that, I do feel like my body is beginning to change a bit. My jeans are definitely tight and that is bringing a little bit of comfort that things are still happening in there. Just having to take it day by day and ride the highs and lows. This first trimester already feels like it's lasted about 5 years 😩😂

Sorry for slow replies, I started temping but I just don't know how reliable it will be with me not being awake at the same time everyday? I'm thinking just a month off and just going with what I think although I dunno if that will help my gp with my day 21 check.

I've been so positive recently but my sister in laws scan pic today just made me really sad again. Trying to refocus my mind 🙈 OH rang gp after another prompt and has been told to ring for an appointment in the morning so hopefully he gets one. Need to snap out of my mood 😫

Thanks @DmcinT it’s reassuring to know it’s not just me! Nice to hear from you, can’t be long to go now?

I’m sorry @Westy22 that is tough going, I had the same when I seen a neighbour with a baby bump. I really don’t know her at all so I shouldn’t be bothered but strange how it hits you. How are you feeling about it all? Maybe a month off would be good, just a bit of headspace from it all?

@Supertrooper101 that’s good you have bloods booked. It blows my mind how difficult things are at times so you are quite right to do what you have to to get the blood test.

@SnookyPook The first trimester is sooo very long and even worse when you have experienced a loss. It’s nice when you can see little signs though that everything is progressing xx

@Supertrooper101 how are you getting on? Any more poas tests? I think you did right to say that for a blood test. Hopefully you get results before the weekend 🙏 xx Pmsl at the burning charcoal but think I'd try anything 🤷‍♀️

@xxcxdonxx yeah it's totally normal I think, a messy side affect. Some people decide to use it in their back passage but I went the original way, even lying with my legs up in the air after some would inevitably come out 🙈

@SnookyPook Aw I totally get the nerves ramping up, hopefully the next few days before scan pass quickly and you can tick another one off 🤞 xx

Thanks @DmcinT Hope you're doing ok? X

@Westy22 Aw I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling like that. I totally get it though 😣 That's good that you're OH is getting the ball rolling, between that and you're day 21 it might make you feel a bit better xx

I agree that maybe just seeing what happens this cycle might be there way to go. I'm entering fertile window today and can't even think about dtd. I'm so busy and stressed in work that I think if I had bloods done i now that my prolactin would be through the roof 🤯 I had a dream last night that my OH had an affair and got another girl pregnant 😭 The worst part about it was that I met her and she was lovely. Freud would have a field day with us! 🙈😂

@SnookyPook i can imagine your aniexty, its good your noticing changes tho, focus on that 😁. So easy for me to say haha.
@Westy22 u mite end up having to ring up for your oh if he cant get past the rececptionist lol i wouldnt stress over the temping. I adjusted my readings if i got up at different times and onky really payed attention for the dip and spike... everywhere i go theres either new babies or heavily pregnant woman. Its hard 🤯 and u have every rightto feel how you do x
@Sez281 me. Am in bloody limbo lol grateful for a positive and the tests r getting darker but we all know it means shit for 9mths loljust had bloods done, lets see what they reveal.. my god ur dream was in depth lol are you pissed of with ur fella now? 🤣

Thanks ladies, I'm pulling myself back together slowly 🙈

@Supertrooper101 he actually got an phonecall app with his gp and has to pick up the forms and get his sample dropped at the hospital 🤣 now to get him to go get it! Hopefully you'll feel better once you get bloods was it same day or next day results? Will you have them repeated or you just going to roll with it from then on? Good that the tests are getting darker tho, I don't know what sounds worse the anxiety before getting pregnant stressing over why isn't happening or actually getting pregnant and then getting the whole new stress of it progressing. I'm convinced my anxiety would be another level, it was the worst time of my life first time round...back and forth for nearly 3 weeks to hospital.

I HATE those dreams @Sez281 I get them now and again and proper fume over it 🤣 he just laughs.

Ah whens your next scan @SnookyPook ❤️❤️

@Westy22 it's next Weds! 🤞🏻🙏🏼

@Westy22 yeh i agree I think no matter what now we will always be anxious with a pregnancy journey that's somthing I've just come to terms with. Also with so much that went on last year I've developed like medical anxiety so yeh Al be a wreck too that's if it even happens for us now.

@Supertrooper101 I'm so glad they finally gave you the blood test all will be fine today and I hope it brings you anxiety down a bit x

@Sez281 oh those dreams haha think we have all had them. I'm convinced my neighbour fancies my dp he thinks it hilarious 😂 😃

@Westy22 i think you summed it up spot on with the stages of anxiety!
If it was a chemical would the lines get lighter back to negative?
Doubt ill get any results back till monday .they said if its positive they will repeat in 48hrs. Dropped a urine sample off too cos i had been having utis for some reason latley, and the nurse tested that and made a point of noting......very very very faint positive.... yeah fank you and fk u lady for your positive vibes 🤣

I've not experienced a chemical @Supertrooper101 I've read the tests would be lighter tho? However surely thats really hit and miss based on how much fluid youve had etc. Hopefully you'll know what's happening 🙏 really hoping for you though.

I only did one test believe it or not first time round it was blazing and I was very naive and thought thats it life is good 🤣 how wrong was i?!? My MC was identified due to HCG levels not doubling and eventually no progression. I only got referred to epu due to the worst pain I've ever experienced in the middle of the night about a week after the positive test..lasted 20 mins, no bleeding or spotting...im convinced my body did something to stop the pregnancy (i know thats probably really weird) x

I've never had a chemical either but what I've read I think loads of women do without realising unless you do a early test. I always think it would be great finding out at like 12 weeks and be like omg and everything is fine. Obviously in this ttc world we are all to hypersensitive for that to happen. @Westy22 your right tho testing so early fluids can mess the test so much. I was Naieve too with my first my second opened my eyes to a whole new world xx

@Supertrooper101 my second loss was a chemical. I hadn't tested earlier than 14dpo which was already a pretty faint positive. They just never got stronger and then at 19dpo I did a CB digital which came back 'not pregnant'. I started bleeding the next day. It's just like it never took hold. Xx