TTC after miscarriage thread 13 💕🌈✨💛

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@Bubblesandballoons Thank you. Maybe I just need to shout a bit louder, no one’s exactly going to ring me up and offer support if I’ve not even spoken about it! I’ll be turning 36 in next few months. I really hope you get a good outcome from Saturday and go armed with snacks and drinks x

@ChloeN I know I always tell myself not to, vary rarely listen. I didn’t in Sept (but also didn’t feel symptoms).

I began to question my sanity and if I was wanting something so much I was having phantom symptoms!

@Bubblesandballoons no I don't mind at all xx I've been out since a blood test in October showed high cholesterol and the drs wouldn't leave it. So am on a high dose medicine until end of November (can't ttc while on it) it's so so hard..DH has been in a different room at night too. I don't trust us/me😂 I think im due in a week so will miss another cycle. So December I will be on it! 😂🙏 No recurrent miscarriage clinic yet, I think the midwife was breaking me in, but the chemical was literally a faint positive for a day. I think I would refer myself privately but the blood test in October took it out of my hands for now. Hydrate a lot just in case they do the bloods xx 😘

@ChloeN 😂 I mean when I went down the supplement rabbit hole I was gobsmacked I thought that my pregnacare max at £15 was expensive 🙄 I really hope so the book says it takes 2-3 months for all the stuff to start taking effect on eggs etc I'm already 4.5 weeks down so if we do fall in the inbetween time and it's all ok I guess I'll never know if it was just nature or all the vits 😆 I did wonder that about having a unfussy womb I suppose it's hard to know as I was on the pill for a very very long time and I was always good at taking it. I fell month 2 with ds then went back on the pill before the second pregnancy I came off in Dec and fell in March but Dec/jan/Feb we were being careful and using condoms around fertile time March was a happy accident caught in the moment and I was 5 days out from O 😂 then this 3rd was first cycle after the MC. I guess if it keeps happening with no reasoning then it might be a possibility but only time will tell 🤷🏼‍♀️ age is not on my side either 37 in 2 weeks 🙄 I do recommend giving the book a read maybe the library has one if you don't want to fork out the money for it. Some of it I think needs to be taken with a pinch of salt in this day and age it's impossible to eliminate toxins from everything but I did find the info and science on all the supplements very interesting. Ps so sorry for that essay 😂

Due af tomorrow and the spotting is getting darker so AF will arrive in full swing tomorrow… ☹️ Looking back at all my diaries I see that I’ve fallen pregnant month 3 after Mc so.. onto the magic month I go x

@mummatara 3 months seems forever doesn’t it🤷🏼‍♀️ either way say it’s the vitamins so we can all justify getting them🤣🤣 hopefully you’ll never know and next one will be a perfect pregnancy!🤞🏻🤞🏻
Is it easy to understand even with all the info? I don’t want to be too overwhelmed lol🤣xxx

@Everythingzrosie sorry to hear about impending AF, fingers crossed for next month😔🤞🏻

@ChloeN lol yes it really does because you don't want to wait 3 more months when every moment counts and you just want your baby as quick as possible. I don't think it's the same feeling as saying you're ready to have a baby and it's just taking a while to get pregnant there feels like this need for it to happen quickly because of that one you lost you are always thinking I should be this far pregnant now or I should have had my baby by now if that makes any sense.

I thought it was easy to understand. It tells you whats recommended and the amounts to take for what plan you're following. So something you might take for ivf you wouldn't take for recurrent miscarriage etc everything in there is backed by scientific research but it's not all gobbledygook

@mummatara so are you taking 600mg of ubiqunol? I'm taking 200mg and now wonder if that's too low

@Bubblesandballoons I'm sorry to hear of your losses. I've had 3 early losses around 5 weeks. I've been diagnosed through the reoccurring miscarriage clinic that I have high NK cells so hopefully youll get some answers soon!

@ROZRAX I think it depends on the GP. I never registered mine but i lost all 3 at 5 weeks. Was referred immediately. The referral took an absolute age to come through though! We have defo seen some success with the fertility here!

@ROZRAX yeah you def have to push for everything, I also find it’s luck of the draw with what dr it is. I’m sure after 35 you can get extra support after 6 months in general anyway, so worth an ask. Thanks, hoping it will all be fine. I think it’s more a hormone issue tbh as since first miscarriage I’ve had really light periods, so don’t think my lining is getting thick enough. I may be wrong though.
@MrsCristianoX oh no, glad it’s only for a short while and hopefully your body will all reset for trying again. Yeah my partner kept saying you sure we need to use the condoms, I was like stop tempting me as I’m hanging on by a thread 😂. I’m due on tomorrow or tues, so likely still be bleeding for scan… trying to think could be worse could be on first day of period.
@bunnykins123 yeah I hope so too. I was referred in April and got lost in the system after having to cancel my first call as I was in Spain and after chasing my appointment for months it finally came through in sept!! Ironically my call came on the day of my miscarriage. Are they able to fix that easy enough for you? I don’t know much about nk cells.

@ROZRAX don’t know why it didn’t tag you in my reply above

@bunnykins123 no I'm taking 400mg of ubiquinol. If you take the coq10 not ubiquinol it recommends 600mg but 400mg for ubiquinol in 2 doses. 200 in the AM and 200 at lunch but I tend to take mine Breakfast and dinner

@mummatara definitely! If I hadn’t of lost the first and been trying the whole time I would only be on cycle 5 now which is nothing🤯 I don’t know how I’ve had time to have a mmc and a chemical in 5 months 🤦🏻‍♀️ would your first mc be nearly due by now?😔 I’ll give it a look up on Amazon, I might wait and see if AF arrives this cycle, I don’t feel very pregnant this month but guess there’s always hope🤷🏼‍♀️

@bunnykins123 so did you just call the GP after all 3 loses and ask for a referral? Xxx

@ROZRAX i think it’s very easy to make yourself so aware of everything little thing your body does they all become symptoms😔 it’s just shit!

@ChloeN I was due Dec 16th so not long really ☹️ I wish we could have known the gender but I do have a scan picture at 10 weeks which I'm glad I got. Yes it's crazy to think that's all happened in such a short space of time but I bet it feels like forever for you ❤️ ahh yea I'd wait see if AF shows. I didn't feel pregnant with any of them. My only weird symptom I ever had was heartburn at 6DPO with the last pregnancy and I carried on getting heartburn until about 7 weeks and the poof it went bloody gagging and nausea didn't go though 🤦🏼‍♀️

@ChloeN for me I lost wall 3 within 5 months. I was lucky as my GP was female and experienced miscarriages herself so she referred me immediately. I've seen quite a few women get referrals without too much issue.

@ROZRAX it's basically where my immune system is too good and attacks a baby thinking it's something bad. We conceived easily and now nothing so I do think my body recognises DH spermies as bad and attack them before they even get to the egg. I'm on immune suppressing drugs and currently going through hell with my 1st bad illness. I really hope it works!

@Bubblesandballoons I think char is pregnant due in May ( that was the chemical cycle so I browsed the May board absolutely jinxed myself there ffs) and as far I know biscuit lover is still trying,..? I can't cope with those threads anymore, I refuse to look🙈 let us know how you get on this Saturday and good luck xx

@ChloeN forgot to say I think it was you asking about CM and not seeing much? Sorry if it wasn't you but I remember thinking I hadn't seen much after the MC and around O day or after really and I've always had a fair amount before def enough to track it easily just by looking in my undies. I thought I'd try having grapefruit juice as heard this helps I've had a glass every morning for about 4 weeks now and I have to say I've def seen a lot more than what there was just after my last mc cycle.

@mummatara are you doing anything on the day do you think? Me too, I’ve only looked at my photo once but I’m glad I’ve got it! I always had the feeling mine was a boy, no idea why! It goes feel like forever, I feel a different person than who I was before all of this started!🤦🏻‍♀️ I’ve had a couple of cramps tonight but nothing major, af isn’t due till next Friday🙄🙄
Id noticed extra discharge maybe that’s what you’re thinking?? I’ve had loads of creamy cm but I thought that might of been because I was going swimming🤣 does it give you more ewcm?? I feel like I wouldn’t mind a bit extra of that just to make sure it’s all up there😂

@bunnykins123 ah okay, that’s good you had someone understanding! I think I’ve had a different gp everytime I’ve been lately, none female🤦🏻‍♀️ I asked a nurse for advice on vitamins and she said ask a dr, but they never give you an appt 🤣

@bunnykins123 I know you’re right. I just have fear that I won’t be taken seriously and it’ll be a “don’t know you 1 in 4” etc etc. Thanks for info re NK I recall a lady I used to work with who had a similar diagnosis after lots of losses, all worked out for her with right treatment. Hope you feel better soon

@Bubblesandballoons I’m thinking something similar. Had coil out in April and periods have been Max 2-3 days and very light (but more painful). Even miscarriage bleeding was very light. I’ve been using l-arginine and think it’s made a tiny bit of diff but again feel I’m clutching at anything.

@MrsCristianoX ahh glad char got her bfp as know she had a chemical too. I jinxed this last one too and went to the due June board to nosey 🤦🏼‍♀️. I will do, thanks. Been so nice to see a familiar name, even though I wish I hadn’t xx
@ROZRAX I tried l’arginine and made no diff for me. Wouldn’t it be great if we had a hormone reset button.

@ChloeN if I'm not pregnant I'll be having a bottle of wine if I am then I'll be having some sort of cake most likely triple chocolate heavenly deliciousness. Do you think you'll do anything for yours? When were you due? Weirdly I didn't have any feeling what that one was. With my son I was convinced he was a girl right until I had him and as the doctor pulled him out and lifted him up to show me I shouted so loudly omg it's a boy 😂

Ahh maybe that's what I'm thinking of 🤔 you probs don't need it then 😂 it's meant to give you more cm in general I think so around O more ewcm. Haha not being pushed out by the egg then 😂 I haven't had any ewcm yet but I've def had more general cm than I was having post previous MC

@mummatara I think I’d be going for the cake either way, sounds delightful🤣 oh love that you waited till he was born to find out, what a lovely surprise🥺 2nd March, desperately hoping to be pregnant again by then but will want to do something regardless! It’s a weekday so doubt my bf will want the day off work so I’ll probably just have the day to myself.

You know my mum had me worrying about all the ewcm coming out business, I shouldn’t listen to her🤣🤣 no signs of ovulation for you yet then?xx

@ChloeN oh yes should have said cake will be included either way 😂 I won't be able to take the day off it's our busiest time at work and no holidays allowed in Dec. We do close for Christmas the week after so might do a bit of reflecting then. It was so lovely and a shock my mothers intuition was terrible 😂 I let DH choose if the next one is a surprise or we find out as I wanted the surprise for DS. So far both times he said he wants a surprise again which I was shocked about I felt sure he would want to find out

No sign of it yet I'm on CD20 today but my temp only dropped 8 days ago there is still hcg in my system which might stop it or delay it. I'm not worrying too much this cycle we've dtd every few days and if we get lucky great but if not then next cycle we'll go back to opks

Do you think you'll test early?

Hey ladies, feel free to boot me out but I'm really struggling atm (15w) and can't seem to get excited about this pregnancy and I think it's because I didn't really deal with my losses this year very well and feel like I'm waiting for this one to go wrong too. Had the 12w scan, all good, and now I'm off the progresterone too, no problems so far, so I feel like I should be super excited but I'm just...not. Delayed telling family until this weekend and I have no idea what my face was doing. Do you think this could be just normal pregnancy hormones messing with me? Or is it because it would be DC2 so will obviously be very different to pregnancy with DC1 so this feeling is normal? Or is it that I didn't deal with my losses this year and my first EDD of the year has just passed (3 days ago)? I'm not sure the MN birth club group really get it.

I'm sorry to vent here, I know you're all going through your own sh*tty experiences with TTC and losses. The anxiety losses brings just hasn't seemed to have lifted at all yet and I thought it would have at least started to by now.

@Margo34 oooh lovely I think it's probably totally normal to feel the way you do. ❤️ also having the due date def won't be helping and all your hormones make everything just that much more. I honestly couldn't get very excited when we fell the second time and when we went for a scan and it hadn't turned out well I honestly wasn't even that shocked so I think it's really normal you're probably protecting yourself a little bit by not getting excited about it. I would love to say that the anxiety goes away but I imagine it probably doesn't until that bubba is safely in your arms. Have you chatted to DH about how you feel? We are always here to talk to we totally get it xxx

@mummatara might be better to be busy? No doubt I’ll just sit and wallow all day by myself🙄 I feel like the temptation to find out at your 20w scan must be crazy but I feel like the surprise must be so worth it! That sounds like a nice way to be! I got obsessed with ovulating immediately after but don’t think I ever did, period came exactly 4 weeks after the first bleeding started so I don’t think I would of had time to ovulate again!
Im going to try my very best not too, I’ve just started having the shooting vag pains I’ve had the past 2 times but trying to ignore them, tbh my hopes for this cycle are about 0 right now 🤣

@Margo34 hey lovely, sorry to hear of your anxiety but congratulations on your pregnancy! I would imagine the way you’re feeling is so so normal! Me and my partner have planned to not tell anyone until after 20 weeks if possible next pregnancy, we would of never done that if the first pregnancy had been successful, we’re not announcing on social media or finding out the gender either which would would of previously done! I think it really changes your outlook on things! Do you feel like you darent get excited just in case it you jinx it almost? Xx

@ChloeN yes your prob right I have spent too many days this year wallowing 🙄 oooh it was when they said turn away now if you don't want to know I was so tempted to look but stuck to my guns. DH didn't turn away but he had no clue what he was looking at anyway 🤣 I had to explain the picture when we got in the car which end was which 🙄 I had a few more scans after that too but somehow managed to curb my curiosity if only for the fact I'm a terrible liar and was so adamant we were having a surprise I wouldn't of been able to keep it secret I knew. I was obsessed after the first but it didn't happen never got a temp rise so I think I'm just like it won't happen this time either. Haha sometimes I think when we have 0 expectations it's the one that surprises us the most 😳🙊 wow vag pains don't sound like fun