MC avengers, still eating cake, 2008 WILL BE OUR YEAR!

[ronshar]

Hey ladies I have been brave and started new thread.
Aquababe will not have to look at her thread opener again.

hackneybird you could well be ovulating if you have not been bleeding for a week, and I don't see any harm in bd'ing - I was by that stage. Unless of course you have had medical advice otherwise.

Hackney love go for it! If you think you are emotionally strong enough then there is no stopping you

Hello Makecakes, Long time no 'see'. I hope all is going lovely for you? Not long now!!!

Ceedub. I am so sorry for your loss. It doesnt get any easier does it?

Flumpytiger. 94 days and you are only now going to the GP. If that was my cycle I would have been camping on GPs doorstep by CD45.

Molliemooma, the feeling of resentment takes a long long time to go away. To be honest before christmas I was feeling less than charitable towards the BFPs that were coming along thick and fast on the previous thread.. I have had to deal with several friends babies, my sister had a baby just after my first mmc last year, a friend is due any moment. I have had to learn to put on a happy smile and take myself away so not to let everyone know what a horrible bitter old lady I am.
I would like to say that I am not that bad anymore but some days I still feel horrible.

ALBS, I hope you are still ok, no more bleeding.

Well I am CD24 and can test if I want to. But I am not going to I refuse to buy any tests until Monday. I should have AF Sunday!
I feel pretty crap and seem to have very sore (.)(.) That may be nothing but I am going to be strong!

Hello to everyone else. Hope we are all well!

Hi Verso, I too are on my 2ww, AF due 30th, although I dont think I am, (probably impossible, cos of DH being extremely carefull), deep down Im hoping for a miracle, there was once when he was careless this month, and Im hoping that it may have happened, if you know what i mean. Take care and fingers crossed for us all.

Thanks everyone for your comments re sensitivity, well in total yesterday I interviewed 4 pg women, so feel that it can only get better now I've done it. Had my first GP appt since the m/c, she was wonderful, really supportive and basically told me if I feel ready to just go for it, not to even wait one cycle (although she said it would make her job easier for dating purposes). So as some of the other GP's I've read about on here have advised people to wait 3/4 mths I was really pleased she was so positive. Made me feel much better so Hackney get BD'ing and quick!
CeCe hope your feeling better today too?
Flumpytiger - hope all goes well at the doc's, like ronshar said not sure how you waited this long hun, must have the patience of a saint.
Ronshar - the no testing must be so hard! Be strong x

Mollie, I have wasted soooo much money on tests over the past 12 months. I thought I would let someone else prop up Boots profit margins.
It is hard but I kinda think that 4 days really isnt that long and too be honest I have sort of given up worrying.
I have dragged myself through the last year and now I am determined to stop being so miserable and just get on with living and enjoying my 2DD's.
We are off to France Snowboarding in a couple of weeks so I dont even really want to be pregnant as it means I will miss out. The sad thing is when I was pregnant with DD2 I snowboarded when I 13weeks! Now I am going to try and not walk up the stairs unless I have to!

Hello ladies, I've posted this message on the knicker chekers anonymous thread as well, but it may be that someone here can help/has some advice?

I've just had my latest blood results from yesterday. Hcg has increased really well but progesterone has dropped:

4+0 HCG: 1510 Progesterone: 45.8
4+5 HCG: 7373 Progesterone: 30.6

The doctor wants me to go and give another test tomorrow. She said the diagnosis from the lab isn't 'failing pregnancy' but 'do another test'. If it continues to fall then basically it's all over.

Last time (mmc) when my first lot of bloods were taken after the scan showed things hadn't progressed as much as they should the hcg was 69,000 but the progesterone was only 36 (from memory).

From what I've seen 45.8 was very high for so early, but it shouldn't be going down...

The doctor said if the levels continue to fall she'lll refer me to a fertility specialist to see if I can get progesterone treatment next time, but I thought there was now research to show that doesn't work?

Has anyone else ever been in this position re low progesterone levels? I'm pretty sure my luteal phase has always been about 13-14 days if that's relevant.

Please help! Can't bear the thought of losing this one as well.

Kate2179 - Sorry can't help you with your query but just wanted to say that I hope you get the answers you want soon. Sending you sticky thoughts

Ronshar - perhaps we should use our info for financial gain and either buy shares in clearblue, boots etc or set up our own pg testing business to undercut the others!
Glad to hear your thinking positively, new year new start and all that x

Hi Ladies,

Ceedub, I was so sorry to hear your news. Even when you try to prepare yourself it's still such a devastating blow

Littlesquirt, I've had no af pains at all & my af after the mmc was totally normal in length, it arrived at the right time too - exactly 30 days after my previous period (mmc happend mid cycle).
So am totally baffled as to what's going on... I've even wasted four tests during the last 60 or so days, needless to say all BFN's

Ronshar & Mollie, I know I must be crazy waiting this long but I just kept telling myself that af would turn up tomorrow, then the next, or the next day and so on. Then before I knew it I'm CD95!

Ronshar your symptoms sound promising, everything crossed for a BFP! You can still have fun in the snow - make snowmen & through snowballs!!

Kate2179 I'm sorry that I can't help you with your progesterone query, it's not something that I know much about. I'm sure there'll be a few ladies on here that do though... sending you lots & lots of sticky vibes for your LO.

Bye for now,
a sad & desperate flump (I'm even dreaming of af at the mo!)
xx

hi ladies

sorry Kate can't really help as don't know enough about it but wish you get some answers soon.

I have been thinking about how I feel and what I am doing, it odd as the mc before this was was at 12wks and it took me 4yrs to try again. this time I am about to turn 39 so time even more of a factor.
lately the thought, maybe I should just give up , keeps drifting into my mind although I seldom acknowledge it, certainly have not verbalise it.
all of a sudden the idea of another mc has become quite daunting. my AF, the 2nd post mc is due soon and then I will have to see how I feel

sorry about the me post just needed to share

I am so miserable. Having had good news yesterday - finally got my hcg results from last weeks tests and they doubled. But woke up this morning went to the loo and blood.

I just keep crying, my 3rd mc in 7 months now. I just want to give up om it all, its so hard. I have to keep a brave face and carry on like things are normal, because of course no-one knows I was even pg.

And not only is everyone pg around me but I keep on getting told ooh you need to hurry up and have your second baby. I want to scream 'I am TRYING'

This feels like the worst day of my life. I don't drink, smoke or doing anything else risky, it seems so unfair. I am sure many of you can relate to these feelings?

oh Lilypink I am so sorry, how far along are you? it might be nothing as you know but yes I can sympathize it really does not make it any easier
huge hug to you

Oh girls, Lilypink & SFXMum sending you both huge hugs and chocolate cake.
SFX-you need to have a me moment it does you good and it's good that you can come on here and write things that you would perhaps never say out loud.
To both of you - only you can decide how each of you feels about trying again.
Lilypink-I can't imagine what 3 m/c's in 7mths would feel like I'm still getting over the first! You may have seen my prev posts about work and seeing pg people, well I work where I see drug addicts and quite rough people so you can imagine how I feel when I see them pg or with kids - life is v unfair!
It's easy to say that if you already have a child/ren that you should be happy with your lot but it doesn't take away that feeling that you want to be a Mum again, and everyone has the right to more kids.
Insensitive people don't help with comments, I had them all the time at work, ooh your getting on a bit now, it's about we heard the patter of tiny feet, don't you want children etc. Aagghh people are so annoying!

I've taken to responding that Mother Nature isn't always so kind.
Shuts people right up!

went to docs today apparently nonstop bleeding is quite normal post mc.
I should be getting a scan for my fibroid next week some time probably tuesday cos that's my birthday

lilypink My fingers and toes are crossed for you hope the bleed was just a blood vessel or other such non-serious source of bleeding

kate sorry i'm not so great with those number things but hopefully it's not bad news

ronshar it's frustrating when you really want a baby, but getting what you want sometimes messes up your other plans. I'm trying to plan around my sisters wedding in oz in november

Thanks for kind words, I have calmed down a bit now, for the time being...

The blood this morning was old, but is exactly what happens to me, I lose symptoms and start spotting old blood for about 4-6 weeks then mc.

mollie I work with the homeless so ditto your comments. All the drugs, alcohol unhealthy lifestyles and they manage to pop out healthy babies (and shrink back to size 8s !!!)

I might try the 'mother nature' comment aqua I am so fed up with people asking and I always start rambling.

kate I am interested in your numbers, I know nothing about progesterone numbers but I know that your HCG is doing fabulously well. I have wondered since my last mc if I have low progesterone levels as I always start the signs of losing babies at about 5-6 weeks (I am 5 1/2). I wish I had my progesterone levels tested too.

Kate, I'm sorry I can't answer your query, but have everything crossed for you - can you go back to your gp tomorrow and see if you can get progesterone support asap? It must be worth a try

Lilypink, it must be so worrying, especially when you're looking out and comparing everything with previous mc, but it is possible to bleed and still go on to have a healthy baby. When I had my scan last time (and got the bad news) the lady said you can never tell the outcome by the bleeding - she said some people are bleeding so much they're flooding the table, and everything is still ok with the baby, others don't bleed at all, and something's gone wrong. Fingers, toes and everything else crossed for you too

Hi everyone

lilypink Fingers crossed that your bleeding turns out to be nothing serious.

kate I'm sorry I've got no idea about the numbers, but hoping for the best for you and your bean

sfxmum I'm also about to turn 39 (well, in the summer) so I know exactly what you mean about feeling like time is not on your side.

flumpy hope AF shows up soon.

I'm still spotting brown gunk. It's not getting any worse, but I was hoping it would have stopped by now. I'm trying not to worry, but it would be easier if I knew where it was coming from! Sigh.

ceedub I'm so sorry to hear about your m/c . I had a similar experience with my first m/c, I knew I'd miscarried but still had a tiny grain of hope until the scan confirmed everything was gone.

Look after yourself and ((hugs)).

Lilypink, hope everything is ok and the bleeding has stopped. Kate, sorry have no idea about those numbers, this is when you need a friend who is a nurse Sfxmum, also know what you mean about age, I will be 38 in Sep, I think about how old my children will be when I'm 50
Well, cd27 for me today. Was grocery shopping this morning and looked at all the pregnancy test choices for a few minutes, even picked one up, then put it back on the shelf and didn't buy one. Last cycle was 31days so don't want a test in the house before next Tues, so that I can't be tempted by it

I think about that too, scully. I'll be 38 in July. I'm always working out how old DD will be when... etc. I'm also waiting to test - FF says I should test next Thursday, but I've had +ve tests by cd11 before - which is Monday. Maybe I should test on Tues with you?! I'm impressed by your self-restraint re the tests. I've already got some in the house .

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG. Stop talking about testing. I am trying to be strong. I want to test. I shall be shouting like my DD2 who is having a tantrum because she isnt allowed a biscuit at 8.45am!!!!
Still have sore boobs. Fell a bit sick on and off. But these are not my usual pregnancy symptoms so not getting too hopeful. In fact, yesterday, I was eating olives & chocolate spread on lovely fresh granary loaf and I felt really sick afterwards! That is odd because I love both of those things normally. Maybe I shouldnt have mixed them

Kate I'm not sure about figures exactly but I thought that they needed to double quickly to show a viable pregnancy. Also the progesterone should also rise. Ask Jules she is the fountain of all knowledge!

good morning all

ronshar that sounds like my dd asking for juice and ice lollies at every meal that isn't pasta

thanks all for sympathetic ear. Woke up in a more positive mood, this has been a very emotional week for me, no doubt due to PMT and I have also been having stronger pain down there which always brings me back to the fateful cramps.

Can I share some cake please?

Have just had my first pregnancy and first miscarriage in the space of 2 weeks and it has been the happiest and then the saddest time of my life. I would have been 6 weeks today but had the mc confirmed at the EPU this morning.

lilypink I understand what you are saying about not drinking or smoking etc - my friend says I'm the healthiest person she knows and yet I've still lost the baby.

The only way I feel I can cope is to focus on getting pregnant again asap - do I have to wait a month until I've had af? I need something positive to aim towards, or I think I'm just going to give up on everything.

Just crashing in to tell Lilypink

I had exactly the same bleeding with this pregnancy as i did with the one i miscarried. I had two big red bleeds and two weeks of brown discharge. I couldnt believe it i was so devestated that it was happening again (no one could tell me different) well i am now at 12 weeks and everything is ok so far. So just wanted you to know that the same pattern of bleeding doesnt always mean doom - but i can totally understand how terrible you feel. i was signed off work today for a week - mainly due to the stress of getting through the first 12 weeks of pregnancy whilst bleeding and the constant worry of mcing. Thinking of you!

Hello to everyone else xx

Lcy thanks for your message - when did you have your bleeds? And were you still having symptoms? I am 5 + 4 weeks (although told gp I was 6 weeks so could get referred to EPU ) and don't really have symptoms apart from fluid from boobies!

Sorry babyfever to hear of your bad news. You are in the right place for support and understanding. Hope you are getting some good support from your partner?

Lilypink - i had a big red bleed the first day i got my BFP (and assumed i had a chemical pregnancy), I then got another red bleed a week later (and thought i had miscarried). I then had two weeks of constant brown bleeding - with clots and thready yucky bits. I had no symptoms - no morning sickness, no sore boobs, and have only now at 12 weeks started suffering from tiredness! I was POSITIVE i had miscarried. I had a scan at 5 weeks (just saw the sac), 6 weeks (saw heartbeat), 8 weeks (saw baby) and 11.3 weeks (all ok). EPU never found out the reason the bleeding. It was so stressful because it was exactly the same pattern of bleeding as last time!

I dont want to get your hopes up but wanted you to know that it can work!