IVFers thread

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Anyone fancy starting an ongoing thread for those who are having IVF/ are planning to try again via IVF soon?

Ds was conceived via IVF - he's now 2.6 and we're stepping back on the scary rollercoaster ride with a FET - I started taking the drugs yesterday!

Oh no OAP Im really really really sorry. I hope the dreaded AF hasnt turned up, and you are doing ok. As Coggy says,

Completely understand about avoiding MN. I hope to see you back in happy circumstances. Take good care of yourself.

Not sure it will help, but I did some choc chip cookies today. Will leave you a plate.
Hugs x

Doh! Meant to finish sentance ...as Coggy says I hope you have wonderful news later in week.
x

Oh dear. I hate IF and all the cr*p it brings. It really is the pits. Wish I could make it go away (tempted sometimes to wave DD's fairy wand....)

Hope SS you have some good news with your hcg and progesterone levels?? Fingers crossed

Coggy - how are you? Hope you are ticking off the days ok? (You asked I think which area we live in - Im in SW London, currently sunny!).

Hi Pulapula. Hope your sister is ok. Sounds like she is v lucky to have you and your mum to support her through this really hard time. I wish I had something useful to add, the others have said it all really.

Hi also Seabright - how was your ET? Hope it went smoothly and you are now officially in the 2ww 'house'. Sorry, I cant remember what you posted now, but is this your first ivf?

Hi guys

OAP - so sorry to hear your news. How are you feeling now?

I'm afraid I have bad news too. My HCG had dropped from 599 last weds to 104 today so it's not happening for me either. No bleeding yet. I have to go for a confirmation blood test on weds and in the meantime if no bleeding should continue my meds but if bleed then stop. Can't see the point of continuing with the evil injections but I suppose I will do as told!

Have had a chat with dh and it's early days to decide for sure but we're going to come back to this in a year's time and decide whether to call it a day or do one more fresh (I think FETs are pants - loads of meds at my clinic and a lower chance of success!!)
I'm so grateful for my lovely ds that I can't feel too upset.

So that's all folks. I'll come back and see how the rest of you get on.

Once again OAP - sorry to hear your news too.

Sticki...I feel surprisingly normal actually!
Thought I would be going mad by now, but feel okay. I know that this week will probably be hard so I have lots of housework, reading and cooking planned to keep me busy!

I'm down in the West Country (I think it was SS who asked?) So no choice of clinics here! I am content with what I have though fortunately.

SS....I havebeen thinking of you on and off today. Hope it all went ok and we're looking ofrward to hearing that all is okay soon.
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Oh no! Crossed posts SS...I'm so sorry. What a truly horrible day.

I'm not too bad about it at all. Just a bit worried about what happens next - how long have to wait for m/c to actually happen etc....

I guess as it's early it won't be too awful but I just want it over with so I can get on with my life.

I hope for better news for this board soon - it's not been a good few days really has it! We need some positives!

Oh SS and OAP I am so so sorry to hear your news, i really thought my bad cycle would mean statistically better news for you both. It has been one hell of a week for us all. SS You may have to have a scan anyway, just to check. I am keeping everything crossed for you Coggy, when are you testing?

I am seeing my consultant on Friday to make a plan. I have some ideas of my own I want him to listen to, we'll see what happens. I am quite good at being pg in april (its happened twice!)

I am sending massive hugs and lots of love to you all.

S x

SS Im so so so sorry. Hope you are doing ok in the circs. Take care of yourself.

What a bad week we are having.

Coggy - hope you are ok?

Im sadly having cramps which usually mean AF is on the way..... Am terrified to look.

Take care all

Sticki I hope that af isn't on its way and that you are going to get better news than all of us so far!

I'm off to the clinic in a minute - not sure what they'll do - maybe a blood test to double check.

Well, AF here so this is a confirmed no go cycle. Was actually getting on Ok - picking clinics in the north for us to to and check out after our move north in April etc, having reflexology tonight to get my body back to normal etc - when MIL turns up with the news that my sister in law is 6 weeks pregnant. And MIL is a chatterer and hasn't stopped talking about it ever since. Am debating either (a) shooting her or (b) running away

SS - so sorry to hear your news.

Seems to be the group of doom so far, hope Sticki and Coggy fare better

Off to find a gun...

OAP - what shite timing - does the MIL know about your treatment? If so I think it would be very fair to say that although you are delighted for SIL and don't want to take away her joy, if MIL could tone it down a bit it would help you - just for the next week or two.

So sorry to hear about AF arriving.

Talking of bad timing, not quite as bad and this was so weird it almost made me laugh but literally 3 mins after I got the call from the clinic to say that my HCG levels had dropped and so the preg was not viable, the checkout lady in the supermarket (I was there when I took the call) started asking 'where was ds's baby brother or sister' and when I said he doesn't have one she said 'oh so does he have an older brother or sister'. No eff off he doesn't would have been a suitable reply. I kind of ran off. Bad timing.

(((OAP/SS/Sticki))) What a crappy week on this thread
If it's not too insensitive of me I've got a teeny bit of good news - we've heard from the clinic we've been referred to (and it's the one I wanted) and they've invited us to attend a presentation/meeting to introduce us to the clinic/staff/process and it's in 3 weeks time! Unfortunately DH will be out of the country so we'll have to wait for the next meeting but I am really pleased that we are at least moving in the right direction and we didn't have to wait too long either!

NMM - that is not at all insensitive. Fantastic news that you got referred to the clinic you wanted. We didn't go down the NHS route so I don't know how it all works but it's shocking you don't normally get to choose in this scenario.

Well the plot thickens with me. After falling from almost 600 to 100 ish my HCG has now risen again to almost 200. The docs don't have an explanation. They say the preg is not viable (which is kind of obvious) and I am on ectopic watch.

I have to go back on Friday for a scan and another blood test (when the Effing hell am I going to be able to get back to normal and also do some work!!?) and if I have any severe pain or bleeding have been told to go to A&E immediately. Now I'm getting paranoid over every ache or pain!
My uninformed view is that given the preg is early it is unlikely to rupture as the embryo can't be growing anymore so at least that's something. Btw I don't even have any tubes as they were removed before my first IVF so it'd be in the tiny stub of the tube I guess if it were ectopic. WTF is going on?

We definitely all need a better week next week.

We got to choose as our hospital refers to two different clinics (equal distance away in opposite directions) I said I had a preference for one as it's nearer where I work (and cause it had better stats on HEFA website and generally a good reputation round here) and the nice gynae doc said he'd try to get us into that one.
Have no answer about your HCG - but look after yourself
Fingers crossed big time for those left in the 2ww coggy especially (and sticki? and anyone else?)

Hello all

I've been such a wimp & avoided posting Recent events noted on the thread really upset mesorry if that sounds heartless.

So OAP, SS, & Stick heart felt sorry for you all. Be good to yourself & partners.

Everything x for those left in the 2ww.

NNM fab that you have the clinic of your choice. good luck with all of that.

scan on tuesday took us 2.40 to het to clinic which was a nightmare.started taking prognova yesterday & have a further scan next thursday at 3pm with a view to having FET a few days later all being well.

Take Care.x.x

SS You poor thing its a bloody rollercoaster, I would ask for a scan, you never know, and then at least it will be an answer (you are nearly five of six weeks aren't you?) Why did you have your tubes removed? Sorry that's v nosy .

OAP, sorry to hear that af arrived and glad you are making plans always good to have plans. Mil's are shockingly insensitive and should be shot at dawn.

NMM good news and amazing that you managed to choose. We are on the NHS (self funding) basically private, except you get bloods and a follow up consultation free but thanks to Leslie Ash all the prices have been put up by £500 for her sueing the hospital £5m.

Coggy Hope you are hanging in there keeping everything crossed, including my legs!

Sticki, hope af has stayed away and that is pg cramping you are getting.

EHM Keeping things crossed for you too for next week.

Have my appointment tomorrow so, we may have to keep this thread going for my next attempt! God do I never learn....

Oh SS...how frustrating for you. I am thinking about you.
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OAP...sorry that AF has come in full tilt.
I really hope that your MIL is tactful when she is with you. That's a really hard one to bear.

Soosy...what ideas do you have to discuss with your consultant for next time...you are brave BTW.

I am feeling totally and utterly yuck, which is VERY unusual for me. I gave been really positive and hardly thought about things over the past week or so...obviously in denial!! But today I have had the tell-tale stomach ache on and off all day and am sat here having a good cry....don't think I let myself believe that it may not work before as that's so final.
I know that some people can have cramps and still be pg but I had nothing last time and every single other time I've had them over the past 8 years it's only meant one thing....

Sorry...I'm wallowing!

I keep feeling as if AF is here and then realising that it's those blessed pessaries leaking still!!!!
Well at least I still have something to make me smile!!!

Bugger!

coggy wallow away! I had bleeding & period like pains before I found out I was pregnant with dd. Remain positive, sorry if you've already said what day are you in your 2ww? & you made me smile about the pesseries I remember that feeling soooo well. I became a constant nicker checker.I have everything x for you.
soosy good luck for today.x. £500 increase Fertility treatment should be free to everybody regardless of age & circumstances sadly it isn't. Maybe a note to Lesley Ash explaining your postion she may feel guilty & send you a nice fat cheque

my hormones of mass distruction are kicking in. Got up this morning & dh had left his breakfast dishes on the work top instead of putting into dw. I think I may have killed him if he was still around Not very rational I know & very petty but its the meds honest!

Right off to take my Prognova Tablets or Pregnova I like to think of them as

Oh coggy, I hope you are wrong, but do wallow away, its all so hard, and if you can't do it here then where can you!

EHM sounds like you are on your way.

I have an idea that it isn't my embryos that are the problem but something is happening to stop implantation. The two times before I have been pg have been in a 28 day cycle and I normally have a 30day cycle and just think there might be something else going on.... What do you think? I do have 3 or 4 embryos in the freezer and two more vials of sperm, but don't know how I am going to play this yet. I did see the consultant that delivered my DS, completely coincidence this am, and he said I shouldn't worry about my age so much, but I do! I am in a pickle and I am not sure that this appointment this afternoon will sort it out, I may have to be referred to another clinic.

I'll let you know what happens.

Well, we all need a better week next week I think.

EHM - glad you are on your way. A convenient clinic with good stats is worth its weight in gold, so pleased for you

SS - what is going on with your results? As you say you just want the whole thing to be resolved asap.

Coggy - hope you are wrong, and please don't worry about the cramping. There are so many threads on here about cramping in early pregnancy and all is fine.

Soosy - am interested to hear what your clinic say about the cycle length today? Hope they are nice to you

Am feeling much better today actually - considering I was in the depths of despair 6 days ago, this is pretty good going. Not sure why I am feeling better, but actually had a good time when my MIL was here and did lots of stuff for me - haircut and reflexology etc, and made lots of plans.

Very unfortunately, my sister in law who was supposed to be pregnant has had a missed miscarriage - HCG levels dropped etc - and is going for a D&C on Monday. Am so sorry for her, but she is being brave and saying that it wasn't a planned pregnancy, and so to her it isn't the end of the world etc. Whatever gets you through it I suppose. I think this bad news has made me get over myself, and pull myself together - it was only a failed cycle, not the end of the world.

Just to remind us all struggling here, I read somewhere that IVF cycles in spring/summer have about a 50% higher chance of working than those in winter. So this year should get better for us!

Cramping maybe OAP...but not probably a -ve hpt as well!!!

Woke up this morning to bad cramps so I cracked and did a hpt....a bit early but wanted to know whether to keep the faith or not.....not!

I'm 14 days after ER and 11 days after ET so I guess it would show by now. Also had slight brown spotting which I guess is the beginning of AF.

Sorry to hear about your SIL.
this has not been a happy place at all recently has it??!!

Soosy...I agree with EHM.....write to Leslie Ash...make her feel bad so that she gives you a share to compensate!!!!

Hi all,

OAP - so sorry to hear about your sis in law. Something similar happened to mine - unplanned preg and then a m/c and actually the good thing that came of it was that it made her understand better what she wanted regarding having a baby and that she did want one iykwim.
I hope she is doing ok considering what she is going through.

Oh Coggy I do hope you can be the exception to our run of bad luck on here!

Soosy - how did the appointment go.

I saw Kate Silverton from BBC breakfast at our clinic today - I felt quite sorry for her as she was sort of hiding in the corner - must be really awkward for a well known person in such a sensitive situation.

As for me - they did a scan and saw an empty sack but said there is a 20% chance of an ectopic so we have to be close to an A&E and if there is severe pain go straight away etc.
They were meant to phone me this evening with today's bloods but haven't yet.

Beyond this there's a huge saga which I won't bore you all with about next steps. More bloods, switching to the NHS for now, maybe a private gynae if needed depending on whether everything resolves naturally or not. I spent literally the whole afternoon dealing with trying toget through to the GP for a referral/ trying to sort my private healthcare out who are saying they might not provide coverage if it is a direct result of IVF (well of course it blardy is)

Ooh I've gone on a bit haven't I - sorry.
In the meantime I'm distracting myself with planning a much needed holiday! Anyone who fancies helping me decide - have a look in the general travel advice thread (the Tenerife vs Caribbean dilemna is my thread)!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/2411/483344#9753576

Here's the link to my 'much-needed holiday dilemna question!

Oh Coggy,I am so so sorry I really really do hope you are wrong, but I have to say, its pretty much how my af starts after treatment.

SS Such a nightmare for you, you think you are and then you are not... Then you have all this b*ks about whether the by insurance company will pay or not.

Please excuse my language, it's just the unfairness of it all.

SS I would go for the Caribbean if I were you, just the right time of year, I nearly went on my honeymoon, but it was the wrong time of year, november, so went to malaysia, fantastic!

I had a really long chat with my consultant, he is really sweet, and he suggested I should go for a second opinion, meanwhile we have made a tentative plan for FET in April. Not entirely sure i will do that, may take up second opinion first... He did say that there may be something in my cycle theory but he didn't know and that as we were in an NHS clinic, that it was unlikely to find anything to help as they won't use any "untested" methods, ie using steroids or anti-coagulants, which private clinics use. So I am going (hopefully) to see Robert Framton at the Centre of Reproductive Medicine. If anybody has heard or knows anything about him please let me know.