IVFers thread

[TheMNPeacekeepingForce]

Anyone fancy starting an ongoing thread for those who are having IVF/ are planning to try again via IVF soon?

Ds was conceived via IVF - he's now 2.6 and we're stepping back on the scary rollercoaster ride with a FET - I started taking the drugs yesterday!

[kzane]

I am a young mum who has been trying to get pregnant for over a year now,Iv made an opionment for a consultion for ivf.what what should i exspect.

[Kacey123]

Hi Londonlottie

that's good to hear,,,,i wish you all the
best....i will definately try the acupuncture
and thanks 4 your advise and the link....all the best....

[Kacey123]

hi londonlottie,
thank you for replying to me.....it really helps talking to people in the same situation,,,,i dont think other people understand what we're going through....yes i did do my first cycle at guys,,,i was refered by my GP.... and i'm about to use my forzen embryo's and sure they gave me high percentage for the first cycle and yet it didnt work,,,,bit scared....but i'll take your advice,,,,,please give me the acupuncture's details that i will try....have you ever used frozen embryo's before??? and what does BPF sorry i'm new this,,,,best of luck and i hope this time its successful.....

[Kacey123]

hi everyone, i'm new to the site but would like some tips and support. I'm 26 yrs old....i had my first ivf last june...i had 40 sumthg eggs from that 13 was firtilized...i had one replaced and 2 frozen....dispite all this the cycle failed...i took it really bad and its put a strain on my relationship....I'm about 2 have my second attempt in June from frozen embryo's and i'm really scared....itz anyone
at guys hospital and what advice tips could you give me....

[soosy]

Hooray!

[soosy]

Ok so that didn't work, I'll try again here

[soosy]

New thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/1366/555826?rnd=1214476383793here hope it works if not its assisted conception and the bits inbetween.

[GorgonsGin]

thank you for the welcome . I'll happily come over to another thread and they throw you off anyway at 1000 posts.

This feels like the start of a long journey, so I have stocke dup on some reading material. I am at a bit of a loss /in limbo as we have to wait a fe wmonths to get to the top of the waiting list. Does anyone have any good tips of how to prepare myself for the physical stuff ahead (sorry if this is going over old ground )

Has anyone had any experience of Hammersmith Hospital? I have had a quick look for information and pregnancy rates seem to be good (I am 33). The NHS only funds two cycles here even though the NICE guidelines is three cycles

[sootykalucy]

Hmm, well there are obviously some practical concerns about continuing this thread - and as I am not superstitious I don't mind changing . . .

How about 'The Injectables'?

Thanks for the advice re your protocols. Downregging on the pill is definatley an advantage. Those month of suprefact injections were pretty grim, and they really extended the pshycological build up . . . and not having to wait is great. I have had to make big lifestyle changes to be able to meet the appointments - changing jobs - and so I want to do my 4 cycles (the number that seems right to me) and get back to my old life sooner rather than later . . . . so yees I was greatly relieved . . . .

[nomoremagnolia]

PS OAP sorry it's not good news for you

[nomoremagnolia]

Hi girls I vote for a new thread purely because I can't load this one on my mobile anymore and am not on the pc often enough Could we start an "IUI IVF and other AC" type of thread? We'll still be the same gang sooty so no need to feel we're giving up (and you'll hear from me more often - not sure if that's an incentive or not )
Hello to GG and NappyValley Sorry you're at the stage of C but welcome to the thread. GG of course I remember you from the ttc#1 therad

[Onlyaphase]

Not sure about this flash protocol, it sounds pretty similar to the antagonistic protocol that I use - downregging on pill for a few weeks then puregon for 8 days or so. Lovely not to inject for ages anyway.

Sooty, I am very jealous of you not having to wait ages to start again.

Nappyvalley and Gorgons gin welcome. Nappyvalley, the most useful site I found is the HFEA site where you put in your postcode and it tells you the nearest clinics and their results etc and you can narrow the search fields down to suit the treatment you need and your age group etc to get the best results. The only thing is that the results on their for the clinics are the audited results so they aren't up to date all the time, best thing is to call the clinics and they can easily give you their up to date results.

Haven't phoned my clinic yet - lack of time really today as I drove back from London this morning and spent the rest of the day catching up. Will call them tomorrow. Also I want to pass on to you all something really profound I read yesterday which really helped me, will post it tomorrow.

Soosy - would be happy to change threads as this one doesn't seem to work for us!

[soosy]

OK Sooty, but we will have to change before we get to 1000 posts otherwise we self destruct!

Sooty, I do flash protocol too, but no downregging, just straight in with Menopur on D3 and then when follicles are about 15mm inject cetrotide to stop ovulation, it sort of bumps up your fsh with suppressing it. You won't feel so c**p with it as it follows your normal cycle and apart from taking the pill means you are not injecting for ages. Good Luck Sooty.

[sootykalucy]

Hi Nappy Valley and Gordon's Gin, welcome aboard. . . as to clinics I can only tell you about mine. I am at Homerton - NHS - which does private patients as well. I personally think it is pretty good. The surgery is pretty shabby being NHS, but appearances can be deceptive as the main guy in charge is excellent and he seems to have hired a lot of great staff. As it is a teaching hospital I guess there are incentives (research money) for the staff to be there. Having said that, being NHS sometimes the waiting time is very long and it can be frustrating. I don't know how their charges compare but if they are lower than other clinics I would give them a go.

No lets not change our thread Soosy, I am sure the statistics will come through for us, I think it would be faithless to jump ship!

I saw my fav. Dr today and he was very helpful. He says I can fast track to start downregging after only one month - as I am 39 he said it was probably better to push on rather than wait.

I am going to do a 'flash' cycle, which is basically that I downreg on the pill and then take suprefact for a day before taking menopur (contnuing with the suprefact). Aparently the first reaction to suprefract (before it suppresses your cycle) is to stimulate it. Has anyone done this before? I would be interested to see if it got results.

Amore.

[NappyValley]

Hello can I come lurk please?

Just been told that we will now need to go down route of IUI (apparently not very likely to work in our case) or IVF

So as I understand it our first step is to decide on which clinic to go to. Can you guys give me some help on things to looks for -
e.g. closest, best results, newest etc.

[GorgonsGin]

hello there, can i join you ladies, on this thread or the new one suggested by Soosy?

I am sorry to hear about the negative test OAP.

I have read the thread from the start and there is so much good advice on here. We have just been referred to Hammersmith Hospital (I am another Londoner) for ICSI, after cycle monitoring and tests at St Mary's Paddington. All clear for me so far, but DH has a very low sperm count. We have been TTC since Dec 2006.

The waiting list is about 13 weeks, max, so I am not at the stage where we are undergoing IVF, but forewarned is forarmed, so I'd love to join in and have the benefit of reading about your experiences of IVF and tips etc. I think it is goign to be a rollercoaster of emotions ahead!

i think I have "met" a few people on here - nomoremagnolia - when I posted on the TTC threads as GryffinGirl.

[soosy]

Sorry to hear your news OAP, You are right about keep going until it happens, that's certainly what happened with me and DS! I should just remember this when you go to your NCT meeting. A friend of mine just had her second child (through IVF, the first was natural) and had a girl another friend who has two boys naturally, was so she couldn't bring herself to talk to her. So even people who get pg easily have their moments. Sending lots of love.

Honestly though do you think we ought to start a new thread , something along the lines of Assisted Conception and the bits in between. What do you think, it may make us feel better to have a new home and leave the bad news behind.

[swerve]

oh, OAP, that's just pants! I'm so sorry!

[sootykalucy]

Sorry to hear this OAP .

I agree about trying to see IVF as an ongoing treatment though . . . it's not only rational (in that the statistics for cummulative attempts are much higher than per cycle) but it's the only way to keep your sanity. Chin up.

[Onlyaphase]

Right, lots of cramps today and a negative test. So no go this cycle. Am surprisingly OK about it really, feeling so much better than last time (but I truly did think I was pregnant then though). Must be because I didn't think it had worked, not even really deep down.

Will call clinic on Wed and see when I can start again. I am convinced that this is just a matter of time and number of cycles before we get lucky again, and I am determined to spend the intervening time getting fitter and doing all the things that I wouldn't be able to do if I were pregnant - taking DD cycling, redecorating house, digging up garden, moving boxes and furniture etc. So I am irked with life in general, but not too depressed yet. Maybe it will hit me later? When the rest of my NCT group announce their second pregnancies and debate how long it took them this time around?

Off to a funeral tonight, back Wed so I'm not disappearing off the boards to weep just yet.

[sootykalucy]

OAP I hope you're wrong - maybe you are just preparing for the worst. It's hard not to second guess it all, but it seems like there are no rules when it comes to symptoms . . . good luck for wednesday . . .

I rang the clinic and they were okay - made an appointment for me this week. They couldn't guarentee the Dr I liked, but I guess that is the NHS . . . it is wonderful that it is free, but sometimes it is also frustrating because your negotiating power is pretty minimal!

[soosy]

OAP sorry to hear you don't think things are happening. I really hope you are wrong. Planning next treatment is also quite wise, though gives you something to focus on. I think I will have to wait until christmas to do my next one with DS. I hope lunch isn't too bad. LOL at containing yourself!!!

[Onlyaphase]

Sooty, your holiday sounds lovely (apart from the falling apart bit) and am so glad you had a good time. Can't believe your appointment was changed without making sure you knew about it, especially at this time of year! What a waste of everyone's time and effort.

NoMore, sorry to hear about your DH's grandmother, such bad luck with timing and everything. I thought you had just retreated off the boards - I know I did last time as I couldn't deal with some of the threads for a while. Glad to have you back though.

I'm due to test on Wednesday and am pretty sure I know what the outcome is - I said to DH last night that I was sure it hadn't taken but even so, I didn't want to have a hot bath just in case (baths, swimming and sex forbidden by my clinic during 2WW). DH was surprised, but as I pointed out, on my successful cycle I had already tested positive after thinking something was up by now. So, although idly symptom spotting (do I need another wee already, is that cramping?), I am already thinking of the next treatment in September.

Heading south tomorrow as we have a funeral in Salisbury to go to - DH's aunt. Am taking DD - probably the most inappropriate thing to take to a funeral - but I'm not leaving her and at least all the relatives will get to see her at the reception afterwards. Must dash - MIL and grandMIL coming for lunch. Such fun I hardly know how to contain myself.