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November 2007- going through, been through or ttc after mc, still positive and still eating cakes

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grinningbee · 02/11/2007 12:07

Here we are then, if it worked!

A nice new shiney thread to fill up with gorgeous cakes.

I'll start with a gooey sticky pecan pie at got at the W.I market yesterday morning

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ronshar · 19/11/2007 17:51

I didnt mean anything by it Jules. I just meant are they a big organisation. Some charities are very small and cause specific. I shall be calling them in the morning to get some more information with regards local groups etc. I just wanted to get your impression of them. I have the impression you are a good judge of character

alittlebitshy · 19/11/2007 18:09

no wheely - i was just confused. i not sure what you meant.... (did you miss a word out or am i dense?)

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Wheelybug · 19/11/2007 18:42

Oh duurr I am so dense - yes I did ALBS... I didn't realise and thought you were being highly amusing - GYM was the missing word !!!

teeheelaydee · 19/11/2007 19:09

lissie - I think the post of this afternoon sum it up really. Just awful. &

Some of the other stories were horrific as well. Herby - my jaw dropped.

Where else could you have conversations about mc and rubbish hospitals as well as big pants, super heroes and new outfits. Exactly as it should be. Fab !

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TJuice · 19/11/2007 19:32

okay, i asked my dp about what he thinks about the medical professions attitude towards mc. this is what he says:

because mc is so common, it would not be financially or logistically feasible to investigate every single woman who had an mc in the first trimester.

some general practitioners are simply not clued up enough on the very latest obstretic thinking on mc. for example, he found out that mc after heartbeat (in our own case)can be linked to this blood clotting disorder. however, since the figures were unclear of exactly what percentage of these women who have had mc after heartbeat have this disorder, he also would not recommend aspirin as a precautionary approach (because the aspirin effects on foetuses are not known)

but he was quite saddened by the stories on here and could not reconcile them to his own clinical experience in (swedish) hospitals where he is training. Part of his education is early patient contact, conversational methodology and patient empathy etc, which is relatively new in sweden too (a generation ago, it didn't exist in the education). swedish medicine also really tries to be holistic (acupuncture is done by midwives here etc)

he has noticed already though, that doctors do get compassion fatigue, when they see case after case. sad but true and he truly believes this won't happen to him because he is a minority, has been through major surgery (was stabbed), went through the mc with me, understands stuff like bells palsy (got a stress-induced case of it earlier this year)and other illnesses such as mental illness (a member of his family).
i think - let's hope not, but still, its all too easy to get a god-complex as a medical professional (unlike a lot of people, i am more impressed by musicians and architects than doctors) . . .

so, it wasn't very satisfying overall. its true that a lot of decisions are financial and sometimes those policies come from above the gps and ob-gyns who refuse scans or testing. but as someone said earlier, this doesn't explain the culture that seems to pervade the medical profession - which is still dismissive and diminishing.

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Lcy · 19/11/2007 19:42

I work in the NHS too - unfortunately compassion fatigue or burning out is common - it can be reduced by good supervision (e.g. someone a doctor can talk to about how they feel about cases) and not over working people. Unfortunately not the way the NHS works alot of the time - although in the long term would make financial sense because doctors wouldnt go off sick with stress.

Lovely to hear you DPs opinion though Tjuice - he sounds great - how are you feeling?

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Lcy · 19/11/2007 19:50

It is why i will try to leave as soon as poss!

How are you feeling jules?

TJuice · 19/11/2007 20:17

hi lcy

i'm doing okay thanks. heavy day at work and have another (alzheimers!) brochure to write before work tomorrow but my head is busted so i am going to go to bed now and try and get up early and do it.

I am trying not to think too much about it but am nervous, because i am approaching the time of the last mc and have my next scan (on wednesday pm) on my own without dp.

but, you know, each day as it comes . . .

how are you doing?

hi to wheely, albs, cricri, starlight and gilly (nice to see you)

jules - no worries. i think he will be a good dr. he is studying his ass off right now, as he finishes in the second week of january and is running a research project on ivf treatment, doing a stint in a drop-in gp clinic, taking a forensic medicine course and doing his part-time cheffing job.

in the meantime, i work, come home, lounge around and eat salt and vinegar crisps.

Lcy · 19/11/2007 20:21

Will be thinking of you Tjuice - i can imagine how i will be feeling when i am in your shoes. Salt and viniger crisps - yummy!

ronshar · 19/11/2007 20:51

Thank you very much Tjuice and Jules all my questions answered.

Tjuice give your DH a big kiss for me and say thank you for being so good at the whole careing thing. I know about burn out. There is only so many times you can here the same story. But if you can not show decent human kindness you really shouldnt be in the job. That isnt aimed at any one in particular.
I was a nurse and then joined the ambulance service! I had to leave because my sympathy just ran out! Drunk people- I'd had enough.

cricri · 19/11/2007 20:56

TJuice Really interesting to read what your DP had to say from the medical professional's point of view. Hope he manages to maintain his compassion once he's a fully-fledged doctor as he sounds like a rare gem! Incidentally, I downloaded the fertility mp3 you used today and plan to start listening to it a bit later! Hopefully it will work for me too. Will be thinking of you on Wednesday when you have your scan.
I went to see my homeopath earlier today and she's given me loads more remedies. She also said I should not be surprised if I don't get pg for the next couple of months as I apparently have lots of emotional stuff to deal with regarding the mc She has also given me remedies to regulate my cycles and to help a pregnancy stick when I do get pg. I also need to relax! (which I knew already). Hopefully the fertility tracks will allow me to sit down for a few minutes and take time out.

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LoveAngelGabriel · 19/11/2007 20:58

Hi all. Haven't been here for a few days, but do hope you're all well.

Lissie, how are things?

justjules · 19/11/2007 21:03

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OracleInaCoracle · 19/11/2007 21:56

anyone about?

justjules · 19/11/2007 22:01

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OracleInaCoracle · 19/11/2007 22:05

not too bad. bleeding keeps stopping and starting which is freaking me out a bit. worried about scan on weds...

OracleInaCoracle · 19/11/2007 22:07

how are you?

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