been ttc #1 since forever...

[nomoremagnolia]

Feeling very fed up with failing every month and wondered if there's anyone in the same boat? It's a lonely boat on a journey to nowhere at the moment, but if anyone else wants to join me, some company would be nice

Rah When do you move?? Thinking of you lots this week chick! Hugs xx

Kensgirl - It has been a while hasn?t it I am no longer in your neck of the woods (that is presuming you are still up that way) ? in limbo land at the moment, which is nice But I am ok, my usual optimistic, pain-in-the-rear self
Fingers crossed for you this Friday, I hope the results are good for you.

City - Loving the positive attitude, the HSG will do that to you I think we need to invent a mantra, when the optimism wanes a little, we could do with a chant

Jess - It is quite funny what we share with each other on here, I?d never dream of telling a friend in RL about my CM

Herby - Glad the meeting with your preggers friend went well How are you getting on with the temping? I haven?t done it for a couple of months, but was a bit of a fanatic for a while there

Gilly - I am sorry to hear that your Q score comes up with lots of anxiety. Are you a naturally anxious person? Or is it just at this stage in your life? I am pleased to see, however, that you are not showing all the signs of depression. That is something worth clinging to. I don?t think you would be able to ttc whilst on some Ads, so it is positive that you won?t need them. It really does sound as if it is PMT related if you feel like a switch has been flicked ? there are dietary things that can ease PMT I am sure. Worth asking your GP about that being a factor I?d say
DH and I didn?t go to the GP together. She just arranged for him to get his sperm tested, and phoned him with the results (and left a printed copy at reception to take to Gynae) So Dh never actually saw a GP. I think at the GP level they generally see you as individuals. I was the one who was referred to the Gynae and whilst dh came with me to all the appointments, the only time he was really needed was to show the gynae his semen analysis. And so long as there is nothing wrong with that, it generally falls into the lap of us women ? more tests etc. I?d say don?t worry about going to the gp, but I understand, I was anxious about it being a formal admission of defeat ? but it is just getting the ball rolling. Ok? I am waffling here. Sorry Good luck

Poppy - I am tempted to give the hypno a try ? like you say, if nothing else, it is relaxing, and we all need that don?t we

Everyone else ? hope you are all doing well??

Wanted to do a special mention to Nomore - fingers and toes crossed for you today and tomorrow

Thanks Ready, I'll be moving on the 23rd...{{{{KNEES WOBBLING}}}}
Thanks for thinking of me, most appreciated! Xx

Thanks ready (for those of you not on the other ttc no1 thread - I'm 3 days late and testing in the morning [eek])

Gilly, both times I went to the docs by myself about TTC and they referred me straight to a consultant. They seemed happy to this without speaking to my DH, although they asked me all the usual things; how long have you been trying, do you have regular sex, do you understand about the best time to try and conceive?! Whether she gives some basic advice and sends you away or suggests referring you to a consultant straight away is likely to be down to you age and how long you have been trying.

Consultants will want to deal with both of you, although I normally want to do these appointments myself unless the consultant requests my DH presence. DH has to turn up on test days though!

I don?t know about others, but in both cases they pushed me towards IVF and were quite put out when I said we didn?t want to go down that path. DH and I made the decision some time before that we didn?t think we were strong enough to go through that process. I admire those that are. The consultant?s reactions were almost ?why are you wasting our time then??

However without the consultants you don?t get the tests you need to find out if there are any issues.

Herbaceous, glad you got through meeting up with pregnant friend. I did the same last weekend, but am not as generous natured as yourself. I survived, made interested noises, but when the mother-to-be and another guest (already a mother) started on cravings, doing a photo diary of bump and other such discussions, I made my excuses, grabbed a glass of wine and headed over to the boys.

Hope everyone else is well.

Cor blimey... this thread has gone quiet hasn't it!!

I am just popping in to say a quick hello. I am sorry that I have not been about much lately. I have a few issues in RL that are not great on top of that I don't have access to the internet everyday, and the days I have got it, I am mostly busy with other things, and when I get the time online I am usually catching up with friends. That leaves very little time for MN But I am thinking of you all, every day, and even when I don't post, I am trying my hardest to lurk and see if there are any BFPs.

Hope everyone is doing well. I will be back really soon, I hope, once life is a little more settled - or at the very least, if I get an evening of unlimited internet access

Miss you all xx

Well I'm about 5dpo and right in the middle of the 2ww. I've bought a load of cheapo tests so this month I think I'll probably just test like mad (maybe it will make the wait go faster!).

Sorry to hear about your problems ready. Hope you're back with us soon.

Hello to everyone else. Hope you're all doing well.

((Ready))
We're (well I'm) thinking of you too
Hope to see you back properly soon, you're right it has gone very quiet on here recently - where are you all

Orchard and Ready thanks for your posts, it helped me understand what to expect. It was a little bit different though. DH and me went together to see our GP and she was very understanding and asked some of the basic questions about health, lifestyle etc..but did not need convincing that we needed some tests. So I need to do days 1 and 21 (20 in my case because of the short cycle) blood tests. DH needs to provide a sample at home and rush it to hospital within an hour!! There have been endless jokes about his ?stuff? whizzing up London?s Holloway Road! The basic lab analysis are done at the local hospital and we then meet up with the GP again to discuss the findings and depending on what she finds she will refer us to a fertility specialist at either Whittington, UCH, Homerton or the Royal Free. Its up to us so I need to check them all out. Inclined to go for UCH as it is a good teaching hospital and convenient for me to get to if I have appointments in the middle of the day. About my anxiety she said it was all understandable but from now on our fertility was her problem and not ours so she said basically not to worry, enjoy sex and let the professionals look after us . I must admit I quite liked this and felt I could trust her.

Rah, I can?t decide whether to stop the acupuncture and herbs for my blood tests. Did you?

Fingers crossed for those of you waiting to test, waiting for AF, moving house etc..

Just popping in, dead quick... couldn't not post...

Gilly - sounds good, really pleased that you feel listened to and taken seriously. Hugs.

Nomore - you are wonderful, you know why! Thanks again babe!! x

Hi gilly

Wow you consultant sounds fab. Soooooo nice
Mine is an arse! He does not even say hello when we go for appointments and always asks for our names and we have been seeing him for 3 years... How annoying and up your own arse is that!

The tests I had recently were swabs and infections testing prior to IUI. I was not having acupunture when I was undergoing my hormone tests. I'm not sure. At my unit there is a nurse you can contact and ask questions. I would contact your fertility unit and ask them whilst you are having tests can you still have acupunture. I'm sure you would still be able to have both at the same time, as the tests are to make sure you have certain hormones. However acupunture might interfere, who knows?? Sorry to not have the answer.

Hope everything else is OK

Hello to everyone

Hello everyone

I seem to have entered the monthly madness a bit earlier than usual - this time worrying that it's CD15 and have we done enough jiggy jig, where's my CM, why does DP's old chap hurt after BD, am I ovulating (I'm taking my temperatures, but have yet to have my post-ov temp rise), and even did DP 'produce the goods' the other night, as it felt different and if he did we've missed the boat this month and agghghghghgh...

It all feels very unfair sometimes, that I have to do all the worrying, taking supplements, having acupuncture, etc etc and on top of that engineering having sex without letting DP know it's the 'right time' so as not to put him under pressure. It does take two, after all. Rant rant...

Oh Gilly, we do seem to have rather a lot in common. Do you ever raise the 'put your back into it, man' issue with your DP? I can't decide whether to or not. But at the moment conception's only going to happen if CD14 falls on a weekend, with plenty of booze!

OMG, I'm right with your girls!!

My husband is a right pain in the arse when it comes to 'producing the goods' at the right time! He also does the old trick, my 'tackle' is hurting and it needs a rest! Hello when we first got together he was poking in my back religiously every 24hrs! GRRR We had sex twice last month as just can't be bother to nag anymore. However I did drop into conversation that if he could not sort it out maybe I would go and find a young sprightly chap that was a bit less of an old man! Maybe I should not of said that but I'm getting fed up with years of him being a drama queen and then being fine when he wants sex! We are down for IUI in Jan, so like you guys said would rather do it 'O'natural before then, but likelihood is very slim.
God I hate men sometimes!!!!

LOL... Maybe! The thing is I'm approaching 33! we started out at 29 and look how quick time has flown. So I keep telling him I have not got time for him to get his penis into gear and to sort it out! Maybe a Spanish Waiter? Sounds interesting and fun at the same time!

I feel guilty now that I'm making DP out to be worse than he is. He's great, really. Just the BDing can be erratic. Sometimes he's fully of beans, and we do it lots, even on week days. But it's very much on his terms. If he's frisky, we do it. If I want to do it (mainly because it's the 'right time'), he doesn't always go along with it, even though he must know that I'm asking cos it's the right time. I wish he's pretend, just for me. I've told him there's only a couple of days in the month that are the right moment, and feel that when he rejects me on those days it's a real kick in the teeth.

If I told him this, he'd feel dreadfully guilty, as he loves me to death. But if I tell him it's putting pressure on.

The last four times I conceived (all lost to mc) it was so easy - this time it's taken seven months already, and time is running out (I'm nearly 42). Hence the panicky irrational feelings...

Hello guys

Wow herb, Gilly and Rah - I think we are all going through the same stuff. Am trying to seem all relaxed about the ttc thingy as it stresses DH and he thinks it will just happen naturally. Another friend announced she's 3 months pregnant with twins the other night and I got alittle upset and just felt that he really doesn't understand how I'm feeling.

I know that the mc hit him but sometimes I think men don't really feel that bond until the baby is born whereas we do from the moment we're pregnant.

Am 33 soon so feel that I want to sort out what is happening and find out if there is anything wrong. Thank god there are others feeling the same, 3 out of my best friends in RL are pregnant and I sometimes feel there is no-one else struggling with all this.

Thanks for echoing my thoughts guys

Sorry to butt into your thread, I know exactly what you are going through it took seven years 10 IVF attempts and one mc before we had our DB. we are now on our fourth attempt (after DB) to try for no2. I had acupuncture when I conceived DB and my consultant tells me there are some studies which show that acupuncture helps implantation. Good luck to you all and I hope you all get there.

Morning ladies.

Its official, I am a terrible person. A good friend of mine is pg for 2nd time. She had a baby girl in Jan, has had sex 3 times this year and is now expecting again after a little accident.

Of course, I am very happy for her. BUT I am sooooooo envious it hurts.

It is so not fair.

Oh kd I know how you feel. Life's just not fair I have felt the same - there are two ladies I know who have got married and had babies in the time I've been trying and others who got married a year or so before we started ttc who've also had babies since It's so hard to keep the fake smile on when they tell you they're expecting (and when they ask you if you're having any kids as it's the best thing in the world and you don't want to miss out - like I don't know!!! )