been ttc #1 since forever...

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Feeling very fed up with failing every month and wondered if there's anyone in the same boat? It's a lonely boat on a journey to nowhere at the moment, but if anyone else wants to join me, some company would be nice

Hi all- well went to the GP and was told I was just suppsed to call the clinic myself. I did so and it seems nobody has a record of me! Was sent round in circles and made loads of phone calls and have now been told they are going to try to figure things out. I think the problem is because I was NHS then private then NHS again. A bit worried this will screw things up. So now just waiting for them to call (hopefully soon). GP told me cut off for IVF was 35 and I had better get a wiggle on. She also told me I got 3 goes on teh NHS, so I was really pleased. But now find out that both of those bits of info were wrong. I may (or may not) be eligible for 1 round on the NHS.

Hope things went well at UCH, Gilly

Can completely sympathise with the whole ambition thing. I was the only one of one set of friends who had a career and really wanted a career and now they all have babies and I don't! I also think MIL thinks a bit like this as she has never worked. She thinks I lost the baby because I was stressed and worked too hard (argh!)

Hope you are all doing well

Thanks to everyone who has spoken kindly to me in the last week or so, I have been lurking but not felt upto posting .

My cousin gave birth last week to a little boy, we were 2 weeks apart and today I have found out that everyone at work who was expecting a baby at the same time as me have delivered over the weekend. On the plus point, I didn't throw myself on the ground on the floor wailing "It should've been me" to the tune of ... well whatever that song was about getting married . So in the scheme of things.... it could be worse!

Rah, pleased to hear youv'e got a double yoker! Lets hope you get little chickens out of them

Poppy, April will be hear before you know it - good luck!

Gilly, I hope dh sperm samples goes well - I dream of a big 3 story victorian house with children running in and out, while I bake cakes and moan about little dog getting under my feet . It appears I have quite an imagination as I am hopeless in the kitchen

Lulu - Do not lose heart. Its probably a postcode lottery but I am sure the cut off age is not 35 (I saw consultant only last year aged 34 with these concerns). I was also told that I would be offered a) clomid b) IUI x 3 finally c) IVF x 1 on the NHS.

Oinker - my heart goes to you and your family. Having worn a similar t-shirt I understand it hurts like hell. Look after yourself hunx

To everyone I've missed apologies - I have to dash! Decided I am going to get bendy with yoga

Hi everyone. I'm still following this thread and keeping my fingers crossed for everyone.

I had some good news last Friday. I had my scan and the baby is in the right place (I'd pretty much convinced myself it would be another ep). It was measuring exactly 7 weeks and I could see the heartbeat. I was so relieved it was untrue. Now I'm just worrying it will be another missed mc.....Oh well one day at a time.

Hope you are all keeping well.

Jess - lovely news, congratulations

Just a quick update - me & mother went to Yoga last night, ended up in the wrong class doing a "low impact high energy" aerobic class!!!!!! Can life get any better??????

Need to soak in bath - can hardly move!!!!

Jess So pleased for you that all is well - and remember the risk of m/c is much reduced once a hb is seen. I know you won't believe it's real til you're holding your baby, but hang in there
kd at yoga confusion!!

Kd your view of the future is sooo like mine, a happy chaos of kids, dogs, chickens, ducks and perhaps a goat!

I never thought I would be envious of 'stay at home Mum' types.

Have had my day 3 blood results back:

LH 2.3
FSH 6.6
Prolactin 74

What do you all think of these results?

GP said these are OK but wants to repeat when I have AF!? Think it might be a bit screwed up because AF is so short and light these days, it's pretty much all over by day 3! Will try for day 1 or 2 next month!

Going to call hospital to find out waiting times and criteria for fertility treatment on NHS etc.

Gg hope L&D went OK.

Hello to everyone else!!

Hello ladies? Hope you?ve all been well? I?m not sure I will be able to catch up on everything that I have missed while I have been away, but I will give it a go?

First of all, thank you all so much for your lovely posts last month when I was low. I really needed the break from MN, it did me the world of good

Coggy, I am so very sorry that your IVF was not the success we all hoped it would be for you. How are you feeling? (stupid question, I apologise) ? have you had your follow up appointment? What about the adoption appointment? Will totally understand if you don?t want to talk about any of it. Thinking of you. Hugs xx

Jess, that is wonderful news, I am so pleased for you. I hope you can relax a little bit now, my fingers and toes are crossed for you flower.

Rah, thinking of you sweets, hope you are feeling better?

Minnow, sorry to hear about your dp?s father. Have you been doing more acupuncture? How does it feel? Sorry to hear that your timing was all wrong on your progesterone test. That happened to me the first time, but thankfully I was able to show my gp when I ovulated, otherwise she might have assumed I hadn?t ovulated. I myself haven?t had these tests you are talking about, so can?t offer any opinion? wonder if I should ask for these tests?

Nomore, I like your thinking, that there are not a limit to the number of babies that can be born, so another?s bfp/bump/bundle shouldn?t be a negative. Hope you are ok? Thank you for passing on my messages ? you really didn?t need to apologise for a delay. Ninny

Gilly, how are you? That link to the man?s perspective was really interesting. I often ask dh how he feels about it all, and he remains outwardly philosophical and adamant that it will happen one day. I hope that inside he feels that way too, as I would hate that he was wrangling with feelings on his own.
I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of a session of IUI without drugs. Does that include the scanning up to the procedure?
We are spending Easter with our friends with a daughter (2.5) who is such fun!! So looking forward to it

Herbaceous, sorry to hear that you felt like a failure when visiting your friend and newborn. Hug. I have to say 71 is a great score ? well done you!! I would say that is a good sign!

Rattling, how are you chick? How?s your kitten? I had a nosy at your chart, and I have to say, good going on effort ? was it Korean ginseng did you say?

Lulu, I know it is belated, welcome to the thread ? I am sorry to hear about your mc, and the lack of a bfp since. Something about me? I am 29 (dh 28) and we are in cycle 19 now, and still nothing. All tests suggest that it is only a matter of time. This is the place to get support, the girls are ALL wonderful! And you?re most certainly in good company if certain threads wind you up. I see you are a March baby, have I missed your birthday? Best wishes if I have.
I think that your comments about being defined by not being able to have a baby, resonated with me, I think of it often. And I am very much positive one day and negative the next ? which is hard for me to handle because I am normally always positive and optimistic. This ttc has been an eye-opener!

Poppy, how did the HSG go? I know you have said that your tubes are clear, that?s excellent news ? but did you get to look at your uterus and tubes on the screen? I found that quite cool ? after my HSG the next appointment with the consultant was just to go over the results of the HSG ? and to discuss what the next step could be. We were not ready to entertain assistance at that point, which our consultant was pleased to hear, as he was sure it was only a matter of time

Viksam, how was your appointment?

Kd, pleased to hear that you are loving your job. And I have to say I had a really good chuckle at your yoga mix up? would have loved to have seen your faces What is the deal with the nutmeg? Do we have to do a spell?? Intrigued
I cannot believe that your ?friends? suggested you only go for the meal part of the hen celebrations Big hugs. I echo everything Gilly said.

GryffinGirl, Sorry to hear about your dh going into his shell, hope you are ok? And hope he is feeling a little better now (I realise I am way behind and catching up slowly)? I am pretty sure we have been on another thread together. I certainly recognise your name if I have mixed you up with someone else.

Lottie, how are things, sweets? How are you doing back in the swing of thermometers and lab coat territory?

Ok? I am sorry if I have missed anyone? sincerely. But I have run out of time for now, and want to post this. Please forgive me. xx

Hi everyone, hope ur all feeling well and happy.
I had my appointment to go over my lap and dye results and decide on the next step, on monday. I have been very anxious about this appointment and it seemed like i had to wait for ages! I was a bit peed off due to having to see a different consultant, not the usual one, and to be honest i didnt find him very helpfull. On the day of the L&D I had to wait for the doc to come round and tell me that one tube was blocked. So obviously i wanted to know more at my appointment. However when i asked about that the Dr said "we wont worry about that"???? What the hell was that supposed to mean, i pushed my point and he said the same thing about 4 times. In the end i got a bit angry and it was only then that he explained that sometimes one tube doesnt fill with dye but that does not mean that its blocked.................so why tell me that on the day of the L&D!!! I have been through a whole range of emotions due to that information, dont they understand that its an emotive issue and its not just like having a tooth out. So i now dont know if i have one blocked tube or not, and he just kept saying "well lets say u have one tube definatly working so egg and sperm can meet and we can go from there" He made me angry because he didnt see the relevence of the blocked tube. I hate to say it but i would soooooo much rather be seen by a woman. Anyhow, the long and the short of it is he said we had 4 choices

1. continue on naturally........after 4 years i think not. 2)Clomid 3)IUI 4)IVF He said we can do 6 cycles of clomid and 6 cycles of IUI on the NHS and my hospital dont even do IVF! So i went for the least evasive first, clomid. I take my first one in a few weeks. So, any experiences of clomid would be good or opinions of my decision would be also interesting as i dont have anyone in the same circumstances to speak with, please be honest and let me know if i have made the right choice. DH came but they dont really like offering opinions on these subjects do they. really hope everyone else is doing ok, ready good to see you again

I did 6 cycles of Clomid - it was ok for me - I was not physically ill on it though I was more emotional than normal. Obviously it didn't work but it wasn't too bad. Very of your PCT offering 6x Clomid and 6x IUI before IVF. We were told it was either one IUI or one IVF on the PCT and that IVF had a better sucess rate so to go with that one

Gilly, the break did me good, yes. I feel refreshed and ready again
Dh and I have been talking a lot about ivf/iui, I had been so phobic of ivf, and even entertaining the idea of it, but the more we talk about it, the more I can see that I would go through all the injections etc for dh ? I would go through anything for him. I know how much he wants to have a baby (as do I, of course) so if that is what we need to do, I will do it? however, we will not be pursuing that until next year ? I know that might seem odd, considering how much we want it, and how long we have been trying without success? but I want to be settled in my new job before I start asking for time off for treatment, and dh needs to get settled in at a new club, and that is all up in the air (again ) ? sorry for the waffle, but basically, yes, treatment is the next step ? but that step will not be for a while. I am intending to visit my gp in the next month or two just to keep my notes up to date.
The results from the semen analysis are usually sent to the gp within a week ? I guess London might be different, our gp rang dh to tell him the results, and to tell him there was a copy at the reception for him to collect to take to the consultant ? but I?d say get your dh to ring next week to see if he can collect his results and speak to someone about them. Our gp couldn?t discuss dh?s results with me unless he was there ? which was fair enough, what she did do was answer ?hypothetical? questions about semen analysis in general

Viksam, crikey!! What a consultant ? it?s amazing how different standards are throughout the nhs. Personally, if you get on well with your gp, I would talk to her/him about it, and just explain that you want an answer ? either your tube is blocked or it isn?t ? you went through that procedure to get answers. Your gp should be able to ask for a report of the procedure and the findings and what they mean.
With regards to your next step ? clomid, do you not ovulate? It?s just that I thought that clomid was only prescribed for when ovulation doesn?t seem to be happening? I?m not trying to put you off, but if you are ovulating normally, then clomid isn?t necessarily the right course of action ? as it stimulates your ovaries (which I am sure you know) and if they are over-stimulated, that is not good. Sorry for being a negative voice ? I hope you will say, ?Ready, I haven?t been ovulating, so clomid is what I need?

Nomore, I was too at the 6 cycles of IUI being offered on the nhs? harks back to the postcode lottery again doesn?t it. So unfair. We all pay the same % of ni contributions, regardless of which county we live. Tut.

Welcome back Ready - glad you back refreshed and raring to go!!!

Viksam, sorry to hear about your experience and the lack of clarity! Its so frustrating - it would appeat that the consultant has lost sight of how desperate his patients are and making such sweeping statements is really not at all helpful Personally I think this makes him a bad doc!

Minnow - fancy moving to a place by the sea with sweeping views? You bring a goat, I'll bring a donkey!!!!!!!!!! Anybody else fancy coming along?

Glad everyone cheered to hear of mix up with yoga class - trust me you would't have wanted to see my face and frankly I have hardly been able to move since!!!! And if that was not enough.... my 60 something year old mother who was going to try out Yoga with me, has advised she feels fine and she wants to go back next week (oh the shame of it!!!)

kd73 - I started running with my mother (62) early this year thinking she'd keep me going out, but it wouldn't be too hard. She's terrifying . Has entered us for a 10K, has a training schedule so that we do a sub hour race . I think she might be trying to kill me .

Can't possibly keep up with everyone else, but that's okay 'cos Ready is back with personals for everyone . Lovely to see you again - I have been checking out your chart too

Lottie - yay, we are cycle buds ? but I believe you are now 7dpo ? not quite synchronised ? but still, it would be brilliant to have someone to handhold with at graduation. Graduation? What?s that?
I am not advocating lying to dp, but perhaps if you didn?t tell him when you get a + opk? If it stresses him out so much, then that is not good ? and of course, he can?t help it. You are right to keep talking to each other, but perhaps just not talking about opks? Don?t you ruddy dare say sorry for whingeing on? you are not whingeing, and even if you were, if you can?t do it here, where can you? It helps to get it off your chest, and we are all here for you

Rattling, classic ? supermum you?ve got there ? better than a personal trainer, and cheaper too My mum (50) puts me to shame too ? she rides her bike to work every morning!

Kd, our mum?s put us to shame don?t they ? gives us a good idea of what we are going to be like later in life though!!

How?s everyone else doing? Cannot believe how cold it is for March ? I was really hoping to get out in the garden at the weekend, but there is no way I am braving it when it is this cold and windy!

hello everyone

Ready - hello and there . We have met on other threads I think last year when seaside, MrsMcJ, Honeyapple and people were on the TTC threads, although I was shy of posting then - thank you for the nice welcome. i have been in denial about whether I have been "TTC since forever" so avoided here, but we have been for 15 months +, so thank you to everyone for welcoming me into the fold. Good luck with your new GP and you have nothing to lose by pressing on - I'd second what Gilly says - you are not giving up TTC just starting the process towards getting some help.

Lulu - I'm so sorry you are being messed around by your GP. I know how it can be and symapthise!

KD - your yoga story made me laugh out loud!

Jess - congratualtion on your scan - brilliant news .

Gilly - good luck with your DH's sperm sample. Fingers crossed for you. My DH gets his results back next week (the second test) which although I am trying to be upbeat about, I suspect will be more of the same and very low again. How is your DH coping with the thought of the results? My DH is still pretty "ostrich" about the whole thing. We had a "Battle Of The Pants" last night because he refuses to wear loose boxers maonign that he doesn't like the feeling of not being held (tightly) in place, but I maintain it is the simplest thing he can do to help himself/us . Reasoning hasn't done me any good, but I bet if the doctor tells him to change to loose ones, he will - because he will take advice from an "authority" but not from me and my supposedly MN homespun, old wives tales advice

hello to anyone missed,

GG

My dh doesn't wear pants, as a rule - on the football pitch he wears slips that "hold him in place" but the rest of the time, hanging free.

Just thought I would share that... might make one or two chuckle

I aim to please... I'm here all week

GryffinGirl, sorry that you were not brave enough to post much back then But you are brave enough now

Ready TMI!!!

Hi Guys, thanks for the info.
I will find out about the IUI X6, coz the stupid doc told me that so maybe the infomation is incorrect.
Nomore......only one of either IUI or IVF, my god, thats crap. I do definatly doubt his information.
Ready what did u mean about clomid? My blood tests have always shown ovulation, however, as we all know they are a snap shot in time, they certainly dont mean that ovulation occurs every month. I do have an elevated FSH and am on thyroxin for underactive thyroid. Do you think i should have gone for another choice first?? I would like the least amout of intervention as possible, as would everyone im sure, so this would be my obvious first choice. To have to have any intervention at all is shit, as most of you know. Im not sure i was after a medical diagnosis rather an emotional one really.

viksam If your blood tests are showing ov then I can't see how Clomid would help - it makes you ovulate, that's all. Do you have a diagnosis of the underlying problem (you and/or DH)?

Ready.... my mum wears slips, hope they aren't the same kind of thing otherwise you may want to have a quiet word with dh !!!!

Welcome Gryffin girl

I've just been so bad and done a test, of course it BFN - what else did I expect I am not even due on.... its hardly early morning and all because of a touch of indigestion .... argh!!!!!!!!