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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 10:44

@Flowerkm teeth are feeling ok now and I finally had a good night's sleep! Thank goodness! So relieved as I can sometimes get stuck in a cycle of poor sleep, although it doesn't happen very often.

My temp went up again today to the same as it was the day before last - if I have another high temp tomorrow think I can confirm ovulation and the drop on '2 DPO' was a fallback rise. Apparently fallback rises can only occur on 2DPO anyway, so that'll make sense. Still not holding my breath that I did actually ovulate so not going to worry about what my temp will do tomorrow. How are you today? Xx

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Flowerkm · 25/07/2020 13:34

@MintGreenLife Glad the teeth are calming down. I imagine sore teeth are horrible :(

Ooh thats good news though, see what tomorrow brings but it looks promising ☺️ its good you're relaxed about it but it does look good.
Im good today thank you. Feeling good and never thought Id say this but Im looking forward to AF next week so can start again and hope my cycles stick to what its done this month :) xx

Juno231 · 25/07/2020 14:20

Finally having some luck with OPKs so I'm hoping for a peak reading later today and therefore a CD17 ovulation day 🤞. Am so glad I'm temping as well though as one of my cycle buddies on another thread had a blazing opk on Thursday but temp showed she hadn't ovulated!

MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 14:54

@Flowerkm if you think of how nails on a blackboard makes you feel (for me makes my teeth feel funny and makes me shudder) it's like that but constant 🙈 So horrible.

I've had loads more EWCM today 🙄 Apparently the fallback rise is caused by another surge in estrogen, so all I can think is that it's from that yesterday, also could mean low progesterone in luteal phase, not going to lie am expecting AF to show any day now. If it does then that's the same pattern as last cycle - lots of EWCM, temp rise for one day followed by a fallback rise followed by two more temp rises and then AF. Not too worried as sure it's just haywire hormones after the pill, but certainly not a normal or 'good' cycle. Only thing I don't have this time is sore nipples 🤷🏻‍♀️

Glad to hear you're good today ☺️ Oh I totally get where you are coming from! Never before did I think I would be happy about AF arriving or looking forward to it 😂 I think Post Pill it's just reassuring that your body is doing something and a new chance to TTC, or in your case first try 😀 Xx

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MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 14:58

@Juno231 brilliant! Bet you're relieved. Hope you have time to DTD lots over the next few days 😀 I had three high OPKs last cycle across 10 days, and if I wasn't temping I probably would have assumed I ovulated from the first one, although I didn't get a peak until the third and final one. It's easy to tell yourself you missed the peak, which you easily could, but then temping confirms whether it happened or not so well worth doing! I didn't start doing it right away as I thought it would be too much, but so glad I did decided to do it now as making sense of everything is so confusing otherwise, not that I've had a nice clear temp shift so far, but at least it's helping me to understand that I'm either not ovulating, or have low progesterone with a super short luteal phase. Fingers crossed you get your positive later and then a temp rise in the next day or two ☺️ X

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Flowerkm · 25/07/2020 16:20

@MintGreenLife Ooh ouchies! Yes, also makes me shiver.

Ah no, it does sound like a repeat from last cycle :( have you started back on the remedies?

Thats it, first try and hopefully means Im in a nice cycle but i know it can all change. Im really thinking about temping as I didn’t do that this month, i only had the positive OPKs and pain on my side which indicated i ovulated but whether i did or not, i have no idea 🙈

@Juno231 thats brilliant news! Hope you manage lots of DTD. Temping does sound good, it really confirms it

MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 16:33

@Flowerkm I'm just jumping to conclusions, will be interesting to see what happens over the next few days. If it's the same as last cycle, I'll get AF tomorrow, kind of hoping I don't though as if it's a few days later at least that's a small improvement! But then again it would be kind of welcome so I can get on with the next cycle.

Yep I started again yesterday and haven't had any 'reactions' so hopefully I can complete the full week and then move into the next potency.

Awh I'm sure you did. The book 'period repair manual' said it's likely you'll feel ovulation the first few times after stopping the pill. I don't know if that's entirely correct as can't say I've felt anything, but then it's. a bit of a toss up as to whether I'm ovulating or not. Would reccomend doing BBT though. My thermometer was only £10 or something from Amazon x

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Flowerkm · 25/07/2020 19:55

@MintGreenLife Totally understand that, hopefully tomorrow is a good temp and you get the improvement. Good news about the remedies, thats really good, hope the reactions stay away.

The pain was extreme, was like a stitch feeling on my right side and i had to take painkillers for it, it was awful. I had no idea people ‘felt’ it, i never remember that from before the pill, maybe it was just heightened because of the pill.
Ill have a look and probably invest in one a few months if i don’t get on with the OPKs :)

Did you get a Dominos? Xx

Juno231 · 25/07/2020 20:14

Ah I jumped the gun - my next opk was blank again 🤷‍♀️.

I definitely felt myself ovulating in Feb/Mar/Apr but haven't felt it since so that explains it then @MintGreenLife !

MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 20:26

@Flowerkm I never remember feeling anything either, but then also I haven't felt anything since I came off the pill. Does make me question whether I'm ovulating then. I've had little twinges here and there, but nothing much.

We compromised and got a stonebaked pizza from a local place, wasn't the same though, kind of regretted the decision 😂 Xx

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MintGreenLife · 25/07/2020 20:29

@Juno231 ahh that's frustrating, any chance you missed it? Hmm maybe that theory is right then, which in that case would mean I'm most likely not ovulating yet then. I'm endless going between deciding I'm not ovulating and deciding I might be and that I've just been having a very short luteal phase 🙄 Either way isn't great! X

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Flowerkm · 26/07/2020 12:16

@MintGreenLife haha! Ah no, Dominos next time then 😋
How was your temp today? X

MintGreenLife · 26/07/2020 13:36

@Flowerkm haha yep, won't make that mistake again! My temp went up again! It was 36.7 this morn. Still feeling cautious about confirming ovulation as don't want to feel really disappointed if it's lower again tomorrow, but my apps have pinpointed my ovulation day now and are saying I am 4DPO. Think if it's high again tomorrow I can breathe a sigh of relief that I am actually ovulating.

How are you today? I've just been out for a long walk with the dog and now need to look at wedding stuff as I've been putting it off and we've only got about 5 weeks until the ceremony now. There's not a lot to plan given that it's not a 'proper' wedding but still feel like I need to get my bum in gear and sort out bits and bobs xx

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CharWils · 26/07/2020 15:53

Hi ladies,

Hope you are all well?

Glad to see it's not just my DH who has suddenly got the fear DTD now he is aware we are TTC!

So I am now on 12 days post pill, I have not had a withdrawal bleed... should I be alarmed?

I am tracking temp and OPK, OPKs don't do a lot atm but have attached my temp graph.

The night before my temp rose I had a drink, and it affected me much worse than it normally would, I was just at home but ended up throwing up.

The next morning was the highest peak it has been which you can see and then rapidly dropped...Since then I have felt constantly 'wet' sorry if TMI but this is so new to me so keen to have advice!

I have tested and it feels slippery, it holds between my fingers but only a couple of mm. Again sorry if TMI. My nipples have also been constantly sore since then and I have had zero nipple sensitivity the whole time I have been on the pill. I was half expecting an LH surge but nothing. Any ideas? X

Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)
Juno231 · 26/07/2020 16:37

@CharWils sounds more like watery CM but that's also fertile CM, so I think it would be good to assume you're in your fertile week now - if only so as not to kick yourself if you miss it! Fertile CM can start several days before ovulation so don't worry about not having any LH surges yet, just try and DTD every other day until it happens.

It's great that you're temping as well - if you struggle to interpret the chart at any point I strongly recommend FF for it as it really is superior for BBT tracking IMHO.

@MintGreenLife I'm glad your bbt is staying high! 36.7 is a brilliant biphasic temp. Fingers crossed it lasts longer than 5 days this time! How are your teeth today? 😬

Finally got my peak today so will ovulate tomorrow hopefully at CD18. Was just thinking how if I hadn't been tracking I would have thought my period was really late and probably gotten my hopes up at the end of this cycle 😅. Now I know to expect a 29-33 day cycle instead.

Pill wise - I've been faaaar less spotty this cycle compared to last (so far at least). Can't tell if it's cause I started cleansing more or if maybe my hormones have been more balanced finally?

Flowerkm · 26/07/2020 17:04

@MintGreenLife Aw thats great news its staying high! Looks like its going in the right direction. Im good thank you, woke up with another headache but soon passed once i woke up properly and had a tea lol
Aww, that sounds lovely, I also took the pup for a walk this morning (8 month Cocker Spaniel) nice to get out and luckily managed to dodge the rain.
Oh i can imagine! I hope you managed to get some good planning done. Those 5 weeks will fly past but Im sure you'll get it all done.

Hey XXX nice to have you here.
You’ll probably get your withdrawal soon, it can a while and depends what pill you were on. I was the pill where i regularly had a pill free week so i got my normal withdrawal bleed but due my first proper AF next weekend.
Ill be honest, i also felt ‘wet’ for a while before I ovulated and now after Im just how i always was. I think its was fertile mucus and just my body adjusting to all the new hormones post pill.
Oh and Im sure you’ve read about the nipples but omg mine are soooo sore and sensitive 😂 still waiting for that to go and it hasn’t!
I don’t temp so can’t advise on the graph but keep doing OPKs but if your temp matches ovulation then Id go with that as you can miss LH surges on the tests :) keep us posted xx

Flowerkm · 26/07/2020 17:04

[quote Flowerkm]@MintGreenLife Aw thats great news its staying high! Looks like its going in the right direction. Im good thank you, woke up with another headache but soon passed once i woke up properly and had a tea lol
Aww, that sounds lovely, I also took the pup for a walk this morning (8 month Cocker Spaniel) nice to get out and luckily managed to dodge the rain.
Oh i can imagine! I hope you managed to get some good planning done. Those 5 weeks will fly past but Im sure you'll get it all done.

Hey XXX nice to have you here.
You’ll probably get your withdrawal soon, it can a while and depends what pill you were on. I was the pill where i regularly had a pill free week so i got my normal withdrawal bleed but due my first proper AF next weekend.
Ill be honest, i also felt ‘wet’ for a while before I ovulated and now after Im just how i always was. I think its was fertile mucus and just my body adjusting to all the new hormones post pill.
Oh and Im sure you’ve read about the nipples but omg mine are soooo sore and sensitive 😂 still waiting for that to go and it hasn’t!
I don’t temp so can’t advise on the graph but keep doing OPKs but if your temp matches ovulation then Id go with that as you can miss LH surges on the tests :) keep us posted xx
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@CharWils sorry meant to tag you! I write my relies in notes so i can flick between the apps 🙈 sorry!

MintGreenLife · 26/07/2020 17:25

@Juno231 I'm starting to think my last two cycles really may have been anovulatory, as never had my temp go up this high. Also painful boobs/nipples have seriously kicked in this afternoon and I feel really hot. I'm hoping this is because of progesterone rising and not that AF is on the way! Last two cycles I've had super sensitive nipples around 5 days before AF was due, and I've looked into that and it suggests having an anovulatory cycle, whereas this feels different - my boobs feel heavy and sore and my nipples aren't sensitive but more sore I guess, although it's definitely my boobs that are sore this time round.

Haha oh god the teeth! They are fine now, I only applied my whitening gel for a few hours last night rather than leaving on all through the night. Now I've realised I've most likely ovulated though I've been googling like mad to check it's safe to use in pregnancy and seems that it's probably OK. I am a little concerned that I took ibuprofen the other day though as I know you're not meant to in the TWW. Only took it once so hopefully that won't matter too much :/

Glad to hear you got your positive OPK! I think that's one of the great benefits of charting, means you have no nasty surprises :)

That's great news about your skin, I'm sure from here on it'll just get better and better until you're back to normal :) surely that's a good sign all round x

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MintGreenLife · 26/07/2020 17:29

@Flowerkm I'm feeling more positive about it this afternoon, really don't want to convince myself I've 100% ovulated until I see another high temp or two, but it's looking quite likely. I also feel really hot this afternoon and have developed sore boobs which I think is a sign of progesterone rising. As I said to you before I had sensitive nipples the last few cycles before AF arrived, whereas this is different and is more my boobs feeling heavy and sore.

Ah how sweet! We have a three year old labrador :) we got caught in the rain earlier but never mind. Yeah you're totally right, think it'll be the day before we know it! I've figured a few things out this afternoon so feeling better for at least getting something done! xx

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Pip1903 · 26/07/2020 21:03

Hi ladies ..hope you dont mind me joining your thread, I'm also struggling since stopping the pill on the 10th june after 10years.
I'm currently on CD47, and seemed to have completely missed a period!
I had a small breakthrough bleed 2 days after stopping pill but nothing since.
I really thought I'd ovulated 16 days after stopping pill ( just going by symptoms from ttc before) had the ovulation pains and EWCM but af never came.
My question is do u think it's possible to ovulate again without af in between? As the last few days I've had all ovulation symptoms again, tender boobs, cramps and EWCM, I've tried using the opk for last couple of days but nothing is showing on there.
Thanks in advance for any advice 😊

Pip1903 · 26/07/2020 21:07

Also just to add when do u recommendusing the opk's ...AM or PM? As I'm completely new to those and never used them before 😊

MintGreenLife · 26/07/2020 21:11

Hi @Pip1903 ☺️ If I'm honest I don't think it's possible to ovulate and not have AF, or essentially ovulate twice in one cycle. Sounds like your body geared up to ovulate but didn't quite make it first time round. I'm currently on CD40 and think I only ovulated four days ago, however during this cycle I had EWCM for several days on a number of occasions. Last cycle I thought I experienced 'ovulation pains' also but I'm fairly certain I had an anovulatory cycle. Best way to confirm ovulation so that you're not always guessing is by charting your BBT. I personally find I get darker OPKs late morning, although apparently the optimum time is around 2pm xx

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Pip1903 · 26/07/2020 21:32

Thanks for your advice ...I will look into anovulatory cycle as I've not heard of that. I will also look into BBT as I'm slightly clueless lol ...I'm very lucky as we already have two children and they were both conceived almost immediately after stopping contraception although we were younger then too.
I've been reading through the thread and also didnt realise the complications people can have once stopping the pill.
Wish you all the best in your journey x

TheDaydreamBelievers · 26/07/2020 21:35

CD130 and I have an OPK that is looking like it may become a positive, high sex drive, and lots of cramps today. Fingers crossed this means something is happening, not just that I've eaten something dodgy!

MintGreenLife · 26/07/2020 21:42

@Pip1903 I think anovulatory cycles aren't uncommon, think most women have them from time to time, so may or may not be caused by coming off the pill ☺️ Also it's quite normal for it to take a few months to get back on track after the pill too. Best of luck, hope you figure out what's going on! X

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