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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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Flowerkm · 19/07/2020 18:19

@MintGreenLife Will September will be around the 6 months mark from when you came off the pill? You never know, the detox may stop you breaking out to bad actually.
Yay!! Thats great, it does sound intense but surely thats a good thing. Thats very exciting, i really hope this works for you. Please keep us updated on how it all goes Smile

Glitterb · 19/07/2020 18:36

@MintGreenLife you never know! Still very early days yet, I’ve only been off the pill a month on Tuesday. It would be nice to happen without having to plan or worry!

MintGreenLife · 19/07/2020 19:06

@Flowerkm I think it will be around 5 months. Here's hoping! Thanks so much :) I definitely will. Keep me up to date with how you're getting on too :)

@Glitterb I should probably be a bit more optimistic shouldn't I ha. I think three months of hoping something might happen re ovulation and it not has made me a bit negative, especially after trying so many different things. But that won't help, so best try to focus on the fact that everything I'm doing should make a difference and get me back on track :)

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Flowerkm · 19/07/2020 19:34

@MintGreenLife no worries at all. Of course I will :) we've been using protection this month but then something came over my OH yesterday when he found out i got a peak and we didn't use anything but i really doubt anything happened, if anything its really made us excited for the journey ahead of trying and just enjoying this time before we become a family. Its only been a few months, you will so get there :)

MintGreenLife · 19/07/2020 19:56

@Flowerkm awh that's exciting! You never know ☺️ I'm feeling more positive now I've decided on an action plan! Hope I can get the homeopathic remedies delivered asap so I can get cracking. In the meantime will push on with healthy eating, exercise and supplements. I've spent a small fortune on TTC so far 😂 x

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Flowerkm · 19/07/2020 20:21

@MintGreenLife thats brilliant you're feeling more positive. Sometimes thats all it can take. There are so many stories about people 'relaxing' and it just happens. Keep up with everything else Smile
Oh don't! Its so pricey isn't it?? Haha, if only OH new. I just say tests that i ordered and luckily he doesn't ask to much more 🙈

Glitterb · 20/07/2020 07:13

@MintGreenLife glad you have your action plan sorted! Do you use an app to track?

I have no idea what my body is doing, I thought AF had appeared yet only lasted half a day and was so light that I didn’t even have to use anything which is nothing like how my periods used to be! It’s hard to track anything until I know when the last period date was! 🤷🏻‍♀️

MintGreenLife · 20/07/2020 09:28

@Flowerkm I've got up early this morn and did a workout first thing followed by a plant-based protein shake :) thanks, it helps so much having lovely people like yourself to talk to who are on the same page!

Haha I'm the same but my OH HAS to be on to me as I have had so many Amazon packages arrive! At this point I think I'm three boxes of OPKs, four books, several bottles of supplements and four boxes of tests down, and now the £90 on this detox! Never mind ha. Hopefully it will all make the difference in the long run.

@Glitterb Thanks :) feeling good this morning, not tired like I was over the weekend, so that's a good start. I just use the Premom app mostly and chart my temperatures and LH readings there, not that my charts are telling me much at the mo! I also use the Femometre app and sometimes FertilityFriend too, but I just in put my temps on there to see if the charts look any different to my main one or if it gives me anymore insight, which it doesn't really.

Ahh that's super annoying, I wish there was a better way of our bodies telling us what's going on rather than all this guesswork! I would assume that's your withdrawal bleed, can you recall if you ever had spotting before you were on the pill? I know what you mean. Because my cycles have been haywire and I'm never really sure what's going on, we just DTD every 2-3 days to be on the safe side, although right now I think it's all going to waste...but it's good practice ha x

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Flowerkm · 20/07/2020 13:35

@MintGreenLife Well done you for the Monday morning workout, that’s impressive! I’m planning a little run later and they always make me feel better. Aww, you’re so welcome, it’s so lovely to be able to share experiences and have similar people to talk to, it really helps.

Haha! Luckily the packages arrive when he’s at work but like you said it will all be worth it so well worth the money. Plus think of the money you’ve saved just from being in lockdown…that’s what I’m thinking anyway lol

I’ve just seen your reply to @Glitterb and I also use the Femometre app and I really like it. I also try to stick to the one app as I know some people have said they get different dates and I know that would confuse me even more. I still have so many questions with it all but I guess over time I’ll just learn what my body does throughout the cycles 😊

MintGreenLife · 20/07/2020 13:54

@Flowerkm well done on the running ☺️ I've got several things to motivate me to workout at the moment, so trying to stay focused on each thing to get me doing it every week day. Both me and OH are working from home at the mo, so here's no hiding it 😂 I'm self employed so I usually work from home anyway, unfortunately covid impacted my business quite badly and I couldn't claim furlough, so money has been tight, but things are busy again now and we managed to keep afloat, so all good 😊

I think for now I'll keep using a few apps as given that I'm not ovulating there's not that much to track or dates to get wrong 😂 I've ordered my detox from a homeopathic pharmacy and that should be here in a few days, so am excited to get started! Sounds slightly complex, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. According to the info some women see changes quite quickly, and some have even fallen pregnant during the detox. I'm not going to rest all my hopes on it, but apparently it's designed to kickstart your body into remembering what to do after the pill, which for some women is really difficult and can take months or even years, so am hoping it does the trick as think my body just needs to remember what to do. It seems to be giving it a good go, but just not quite getting there, so fingers crossed 🤞🏼

Are you taking any supplements at the mo? X

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KeepSmiling89 · 20/07/2020 13:59

Hi. Bookmarking this thread as I'm still workingoyt what my body is doing since coming off the pill a few months ago.
First proper AF was fine...about 3 days but last 2 have been just a day and a bit but with spotting in the days leading up to it. I'd hoped the spotting might've been implantation but that just wasn't the case.
Could research put my mind at ease or will it add to my stress levels even more and reduce chances of conceiving?

Flowerkm · 20/07/2020 16:15

@MintGreenLife Thank you 😊
Aw, sorry to hear that and that’s rubbish you couldn’t claim the grant, but that’s great news the business has picked up. I think this time will also help us look back and remember that when things get tough, we will get through it as we’re doing it now and managing to stay afloat financially and through such strange times etc.

That’s it, your body is really trying to do something already so this could be the thing it needs to make it remember. That’s very exciting, it sounds really promising with good reviews on it.
I’m taking Folic Acid and Vitamin D at the moment, I’ve been taking this for about a month now I think so fingers crossed it’s building up in my system ready. I’m also trying to eat more veg, I’m a pretty good eater but I eat way more fruit than veg so stocked up on some goodies and also doing things like brown bread, high fibre cereal’s etc. I have such a sweet tooth it’s unreal so no stopping my choccys every now and then.

Welcome @KeepSmiling89 it’s a tricky one isn’t it? So many things happening to your body. They do sound very light but I haven’t had a proper AF since coming off the pill, I’m just used to my withdrawal bleeds from being on the pill so I can’t really say. Research could help, @MintGreenLife put some really good research up on here and has looked into lots so I’m sure she can advise you 😊

CharWils · 20/07/2020 19:44

Hi everyone!

Hope you don't mind me joining but I am finding this post really informative, so thought I would comment and continue catching up before I hopefully have some responses!

I am 34 in a couple of months and have just come off the progesterone only pill last Tuesday due to TTC... I wish I had done all my research sooner as it appears from this I may be in for a bit of a rough ride getting back to normal, and was always under the impression from doctors would go back to normal straight away!

So history...
I never paid any attention to periods when I was younger apart from seeing them as an annoyance so I have no idea what normal is for me.
I unfortunately fell unexpectedly pregnant after vomiting/intercourse in one night whilst on the pill... appreciate this is controversial but for me it is better to have full disclosure as this may lead to better advice. Sorry to anyone who is offended/triggered by this (not my intention) but this led to a termination just before I was 18 and was put on the implant at the same time. This caused its own issues but does reassure that hopefully I am able to fall pregnant even circa 15 years on.
I have been on either the implant or the pill since apart from a short break about 6 years ago as I felt I should 'give my body a break' and I had constant spotting from a newer implant, I don't remember anything else apart from constant spotting until I braved going on the pill again. Apart from this I have had no period/bleeding.
The plan was to start trying In the new year as we had a holiday booked to Mexico In sept and them give it 3 months for Zika afterwards. With cancellation we have come off now as no point waiting, I am glad now as otherwise wouldn't of come off pill until 2021 at 35 expecting to be immediately fertile! Hmm
Throughout lockdown I have been actively trying to get my self in the best possible position to hopefully fall pregnant - I have cut down on alcohol, caffeine, my BMI is now below 30 (still high but an improvement), I am ensuring 10k steps at least a day and couch to 5k 3 times a week. I have also started taking wellwoman multivits last week inc the vit D and folic acid, I have ordered pregnacare for when the current batch run out in about 15 days.

I am a control freak, I love tracking things and ticking off boxes etc. As above I have spent a long period of time being absolutely petrified of falling pregnant so have never paid any attention to any other factors. The shift to coming off the pill felt petrifying but now I have done it I am very excited to get to know my cycle etc and really keen to make sure I am doing the right things and being as well prepared as possible...at least I can be in control of that!

Now to the questions...
Is there anything else I should be doing/taking?
When can I expect a withdrawal bleed - appreciating everyone is different and should I track it on Flo etc?
I have OPKs and a thermometer and I was planning to use and track these daily (starting today) so I at least have some idea until I have that bleed? Is that silly (a waste of OPKs) or sensible? GP said I should just class any bleeding as a period whilst tracking?
I have got the book an impatient guide to falling pregnant, will look into the egg one after this and following the links on this page as I read them -any other good reads/blogs or threads etc?
What does CD number of days mean? I have figured out the rest but not sure on this one and looks like it is significant?

Thanks in advance Smile

Flowerkm · 20/07/2020 20:38

Hey @CharWils of course we don't mind, jump right in. Glad you’re finding it helpful ☺️

Thank you for being so honest and no judgement here x
Well done on the activities you’re doing, couch to 5k is brilliant and Im impressed with the 10k steps a day!!
Sorry to hear about your holiday, such a shame but i think a lot of people are now TTC as holidays have been cancelled. Got to do something during that time? Hehe.
Its so exciting, its really a lovely time and me and my OH are just taking it as it comes and enjoying having something to focus on.

For me all Im taking is Vit D and Folic Acid but there are many more you can be taking, its totally up to you. Sounds like you’re taking the right things though.

The withdrawal bleed varies, with my pill i had a withdrawal bleed every 3 weeks so Im counting my next period to be 4 weeks from my last bleed from the pill. So not sure i can advise on that as I haven’t got experience from it. I assume though as the hormones leaves your body you may even ovulate and then bleed 2 weeks from then? Or it could be when your body realises theres no hormones.

I tested once a day from CD(cycle day) 10 onwards and then when i got a high reading i tested twice a day to try and catch my peak. Deffo not a waste if you want to see where you are in your cycle and will give you peace of mind as well. A thermometer is a great idea, i havent used one yet but i see a lot of people use these.

CD means cycle day ☺️

Hope that helps, nice to have you in the group xx

Flowerkm · 20/07/2020 20:38

Hey @CharWils of course we don't mind, jump right in. Glad you’re finding it helpful ☺️

Thank you for being so honest and no judgement here x
Well done on the activities you’re doing, couch to 5k is brilliant and Im impressed with the 10k steps a day!!
Sorry to hear about your holiday, such a shame but i think a lot of people are now TTC as holidays have been cancelled. Got to do something during that time? Hehe.
Its so exciting, its really a lovely time and me and my OH are just taking it as it comes and enjoying having something to focus on.

For me all Im taking is Vit D and Folic Acid but there are many more you can be taking, its totally up to you. Sounds like you’re taking the right things though.

The withdrawal bleed varies, with my pill i had a withdrawal bleed every 3 weeks so Im counting my next period to be 4 weeks from my last bleed from the pill. So not sure i can advise on that as I haven’t got experience from it. I assume though as the hormones leaves your body you may even ovulate and then bleed 2 weeks from then? Or it could be when your body realises theres no hormones.

I tested once a day from CD(cycle day) 10 onwards and then when i got a high reading i tested twice a day to try and catch my peak. Deffo not a waste if you want to see where you are in your cycle and will give you peace of mind as well. A thermometer is a great idea, i havent used one yet but i see a lot of people use these.

CD means cycle day ☺️

Hope that helps, nice to have you in the group xx

CharWils · 20/07/2020 20:57

@Flowerkm Thankyou so much that is really helpful...

So should I expect to have bleeds where I don't ovulate etc initially?

I just wish I had known all of this before and would of come off a lot sooner!

Flowerkm · 21/07/2020 08:18

@Flowerkm no problem at all :)

Yes, you can still bleed without ovulating, I think it's a lot lighter but I've read that you can still bleed. I think doing the OPKs/temp checking will be a really good start so you can see if you get any high readings or even a peak.

I know, we have talked about this and all agree how little we're told about what happens when you want to come off the pill/coil anything like that and no one really explains what your body goes through they just tell you that you can fall pregnancy right away which i think is just unhelpful. @MintGreenLife put some really good figures on here and how many % of woman go back to normal and then also a % on how many woman take a few months. It's totally normal so don't worry. Your body may fall back really quickly :)

Flowerkm · 21/07/2020 08:19

Meant to tag @CharWils I'm still getting used to this haha!

CharWils · 21/07/2020 09:02

Thanks @Flowerkm Smile

MintGreenLife · 21/07/2020 09:51

@Flowerkm definitely :) it's even made me decide to take my business in a new direction, which I've been wanting to do for years, but never made the leap as would mean taking a temporary pay cut in order to do the work I needed to move forward, but lockdown made me realise I could cope on less money, so I've decided to go for it and should hopefully be back earning my usual in a few months time and feeling a lot more positive about things!

Yeah I'm hoping it's a good sign that my body is having a go. The remedies should be here today or tomorrow - am excited to get started! Well done on the healthy eating :) chocolate is completely my downfall, but I have this and my ceremony in September to get ready for, so I've managed to cut it out, as well as alcohol and caffeine. I just let myself have a few squares of dark chocolate on the weekends here and there and seem to be managing with that at the moment.

How are you today? x

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MintGreenLife · 21/07/2020 09:55

@KeepSmiling89 Hey and welcome :) that's positive your first AF seemed normal! I've had two periods off the pill and both of mine have been really light, but I think that's possibly due to having anovulatory cycles.

I think with researching it's just personal choice - I've found learning all I can really helpful, because it's helped me understand the many ways your body can react after the pill, and that it's quite normal for things to take some time. I found a study that showed that 60% of women go back to normal and start ovulating right away, whereas 40% experience cycle disturbances for up to 9 months after, so while that's a bit frustrating as you wonder why you're not one of the 60% that are fine after, 40% is still a huge amount, so it's kind of a toss up of which way you'll go. For me research has meant I'm not stressing or worried about my possible lack of ovulation, instead I'm being proactive and that makes me feel better, but really depends how you would feel learning more :)

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MintGreenLife · 21/07/2020 10:02

Hi @CharWils and welcome :)

I've just requoted these stats I found above, but a study I found stated that 60% of women will go back to normal after stopping the pill and start ovulating within 2-4 weeks, and then 40% have cycle disturbances up to 9 months after stopping, so you never know, you could be one of those women that get straight back to normal :) unfortunately it's just a wait and see situation, but you could get straight back on track!

Sounds like you are doing all the right things :) I'm honestly a bit stumped as to why my body is having a hard time, but I don't think there's much reason behind it. When you think about it in my case I have stopped ovulation for 13/14 years, so of course it's going to take a little while to get back into the swing of things!

Like @Flowerkm said, of course no judgement here. We all have different backgrounds and it's just so nice that we can all find common ground in this, makes me feel much better knowing there are others going through the same thing! x

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CharWils · 21/07/2020 11:03

Thanks so much @MintGreenLife

So happy I found this thread as good to know there's a group of us and that I'm not alone in initially feeling so uneducated about the affects of being on it!

Flowerkm · 21/07/2020 12:05

@MintGreenLife Thats really nice to hear that Covid has made you take that leap, its funny when we’re put into these situations we just see a different view of it all. Well done on the lack of choccy, thats really motivated me to not reach for that choccy bar now! Im a healthy BMI but i think i do need to make sure Im eating everything needed to grow a healthy baba when it happens.
Yay! Hope they arrive today. Im excited for you, really hope this helps ☺️

Im good today thank you. Works a bit quiet but can’t complain. All my cramps have totally stopped which is good, just a count down to AF now. Think Im due on the 2nd or 3rd August. How are you? Xx

MintGreenLife · 21/07/2020 12:42

@Flowerkm it's good that many of us have been able to turn what's been an awful situation into a positive ☺️ Last I checked I think my BMI is between 21-22, so bang in the middle, like you I feel like I should do all I can to make sure I'm as healthy as possible, without making myself miserable of course!

Hope AF comes on time for you 🤞🏼 Sorry if TMI, but I had the most EWCM I've ever had this morning and an almost positive on an OPK. But then my cervix has been high for over a week and has come back down again, so that makes no sense 🤷🏻‍♀️ Will keep testing, but I think some women get a small LH surge and what resembles EWCM before AF so meh be that x

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