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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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lawandgin · 22/08/2020 18:10

@Juno231 I would think so, but don't rule out a quickie while you're "getting ready for dinner" 😂

Flowerkm · 22/08/2020 18:33

@Juno231 Im with @lawandgin 😋

eternalflame2020 · 22/08/2020 19:10

Ha like your thinking @lawandgin just try not to go down to dinner looking more flustered than when you went to get ready 😂

mrsmacmc · 22/08/2020 20:10

Sorry I've been quiet past few days ladies, Manic few days with work (IT gremlins) and then been getting bedroom painted / carpet cleaned as new bed arrives next Saturday! Currently camping out in the back room with stuff EVERYWHERE! My mind struggles with a 'stir up house' as need calm surroundings. 4DPO according to tracker and trying very hard not to symptom spot 🤣. Bubble bath and relax tonight me thinks and a Sunday where I move just enough to reassure OH I've not overdone it. Love to all!❤️

CharityRoyall · 23/08/2020 08:57

Hope everyone has had a lovely week! Work’s been crazy so not much time to dip in and out of here. I’ve been taking my temp every day and it’s been a steady 36.2 ish for nearly 2 weeks now. This morning it was 35.9 which I thought meant maybe I’m about to ovulate but then I remembered I took paracetamol at about 10pm last night so that’s most likely affected it 😂 oops!! Never mind. Hope everyone has a great Sunday!

CharityRoyall · 23/08/2020 08:58

@eternalflame2020 just seen your posts! Fingers crossed for you! Xxx

eternalflame2020 · 23/08/2020 09:51

Nothing better than a newly painted room and new furniture @mrsmacmc although I'm the same as you, I need calm surroundings for a calm mind!

Thank you @CharityRoyall all seems ok at the moment and had a positive 1-2 weeks on CB last night, so just going to go with it!

I'm going to continue to hover, and have everything crossed for us all! x

Flowerkm · 23/08/2020 11:06

@mrsmacmc hope you had a relaxing Saturday evening and plan to still relax today ☺️

@eternalflame2020 aww thats really good news, go with it as thats all you can do, very exciting :)

@CharityRoyall Hope works a bit calmer for you next week! I don't track my temp but i also think the paracetamol may have played a part to play in that drop. What CD are you?

MintGreenLife · 23/08/2020 14:56

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend ☺️ Not much is happening for me! No EWCM yet and still getting really faint lines on OPKs. I'm CD15 I think. Getting a bit worried exactly what I didn't want to happen will happen - that I'll ovulate in the run up to the wedding or over the wedding! Wedding day is CD28 and over my three cycles off the pill think the earliest I've ovulated is CD25, and we will be at my sister-in-laws from CD25 🤦🏻‍♀️ Silver lining is that I know I won't have AF over the wedding now, but on the other hand this cycle (and next cycle if we are really pushing it) is the last cycle for us to fit in with the 'wedding' (party for all our family and friends) next year 🙄 ah well, I guess it'll just pan out how it pans out and there's not much I can do about it really! Xx

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Juno231 · 23/08/2020 15:04

@MintGreenLife sorry to hear there's still no traction for you! Could still well happen this coming week and at least it would be an improvement on CD25?

Didn't manage to convince OH to BD last night or this morning so pretty sure we're on to cycle 9 at this rate 😐

MintGreenLife · 23/08/2020 15:17

@Juno231 thanks :) I guess you never know, but I'm not holing my breath! Just praying I start to see some EWCM soon. Am slightly concerned that I always have a faint line on my femometre OPKs, but then I think with PCOS you got false positives, and I've not been anywhere near a positive so maybe it's nothing to worry about.

Ahh sorry to hear that, it's so hard when they're not up for it. I don't even tell OH when I think I might be in my FW and so if he turns me down (gah) saying he's too tired or not feeling well etc I feel like I can't say much as 'but we have to' isn't really that alluring is it ha. I'm better not telling him when we should be doing it as he feels under too much pressure then. What day do you think you'll be ovulating, today? If so Friday would still give you a pretty good chance x

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Juno231 · 24/08/2020 07:26

@MintGreenLife I've had a big rise today to 36.64 so I think yesterday was OD (funnily enough on cd14 which is a first!) . My OH very much knows when FW is otherwise we wouldn't have near enough BD. I'm still so annoyed though that he so casually didn't care enough about it this cycle...

I wouldn't worry about your OPKs just yet, it's not that unusual to have faint lines. I think I'd be worried if they were pretty strong lines for extended periods of time.

Flowerkm · 24/08/2020 07:44

Morning :)

@MintGreenLife Im with @Juno231 on the lines, don't worry to much about the faint lines, hoping it changes soon for you though.

@Juno231 Good news about the temp rise ☺️ OH's don't understand sometimes. I was telling mine about the LP and he looked at me like 'huuuh?' He did try and listen but honestly it made me feel like whats the point? He thinks it 'just happens' Im like no, my body needs enough time to implant the egg...it doesn't just happen.

Still no AF which is good but Im on 12DPO today so hoping i can hold out until tomorrow to get a good LP in. My app predicted tomorrow so will see how accurate it is.

Have a good Monday everyone. Trying to find motivation to go and WFH 😩

MintGreenLife · 24/08/2020 09:32

Morning @Juno231 @Flowerkm :)

Yay for your temp rise @Juno231 - As ovulation was yesterday you could well be within a chance from DTD Friday! Sorry to hear you're annoyed with OH - it is upsetting as we put so much energy into TTC and are so invested emotionally and then all they have to do is DTD here and there, so I can see why you'd be frustrated! Does he know you're annoyed at him?

So I had a big blob of what appears to be very almost EWCM first thing this morn! Sorry if TMI, but it was slightly thicker than usual EWCM, but clear and stretchy, although didn't quite stretch an inch between my fingers I don't think.

This is where I start to feel a bit unsure about what's best with DTD. So we try to go for it every other day, and DTD yesterday, but now I have EWCM I'm thinking we should try again today, just in case I only have it for a day or two before ovulation, but then in my last cycle I had EWCM on and off for around two weeks before I finally ovulated, so if we took the approach of trying to DTD every day of EWCM I would be feeling very tired and frustrated if it goes on ages again... Plus I think OH prefers every other day, so if I tried to get him to DTD today he probably wouldn't tomorrow. This is like TTC maths ha!

Hopefully you won't see AF for another few days @flowerkm although if you do an LP of 12 days is still absolutely fine :) xx

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Juno231 · 24/08/2020 09:40

@MintGreenLife @flowerkm yes I think it's just frustrating that I put so much effort into and it takes so much headspace throughout the month - but then when it comes down to it I have no control at all and have to rely on someone clueless to do their part for any of my efforts to come to fruition. He does know I'm annoyed with him but at the same time doesn't seem to fully understand why lol.

@mintgreenlife I think I'd carry on with every other as you'd be covered then anyway and just wouldn't run the risk of burnout.

@flowerkm I'm at my in-laws in the country and wfh today and sooo not feeling it.

MintGreenLife · 24/08/2020 09:45

@Juno231 what you've said makes total sense. I guess it's just one of those things they will never fully understand properly. I suppose for us everyday we put in effort to make TTC work, and then all you ask is for a few days of effort and for him to commit to a few days a month compared to your daily commitment, so when he's not willing to do that that's bound to hurt and feel like he's working against you rather than with you. At least we have each other to have a moan to :)

OK thanks, will stick with every other day then. Hopefully my EWCM continues for a few days, but not a few weeks this time! x

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CLKELL · 24/08/2020 10:39

Hi everyone, hope you don’t mind me joining here! I’ve been reading this thread and found it very informative! I’m at the start of ttc but have stage 4 endometriosis. Last year I had to have two planned operations losing one tube and getting rid of huge cysts on both ovaries. In between those I was put on something called prostap which puts you in temp menopause (to keep everything calm in there essentially) and then after the second op in the June I went on the pill to get better and just recover. I tri-cycled it from last June and stopped it end of June just gone after having emergency surgery for endo related stuff two weeks prior. I got the breakthrough bleed as normal 3 days later then had nothing until day 54. However what I got was 3 days of very very light pink and beige flow that was quite slippery and barely needing to even wear a panty liner so not sure if this was a period or not?! Finding it frustrating as want to crack on bht don’t even know if I’m ovulating. I’m now getting clear almost eg cm but only finished this ‘period’ two days ago. I know I’ve had a lot going on inside so bound to be all over the place but guess just wanted some reassurance from others! TIA x

Flowerkm · 24/08/2020 10:53

@MintGreenLife That sounds like a good sign. I’d stick to your plan as well as all basis will be covered then and OH will stick to it as well. Haha, TTC maths, it actually is!!

Also totally feeling the same frustration with OHs, they have to do one thing and yet here we are doing daily tests and app tracking to get the best chance..

@CLKELL Welcome 😊 Join right in. Glad you found it informative, it’s so nice to speak to others who understand what it’s like.
Sorry to hear about your journey so far, it sounds like you’ve really been through quite a lot so don’t be hard on yourself when waiting for things to return to ‘normal’. Do you track ovulation at all? You’ve probably read that some of us use the Femometer strips and they’re pretty good at tracking ovulation and giving you an idea what’s going on.
Your period sounds very light but that could be the start of things returning to a regular cycle and your next cycle may be a bit heavier as it’s now getting into more of a cycle xx

CLKELL · 24/08/2020 11:08

@Flowerkm yes it’s been a rough road! I’m just so conscious of my age (38) and my condition, we first started trying to conceive just under 3yrs ago and that’s when my condition got worse and we had to stop. But you’re right I need to try and relax and like you say hopefully whatever this was is a sign it’s all starting to work again!
I was using ovulation sticks in July after stopping the pill but then stopped as thought it might be too stressful so maybe I should try now I’ve had something happen. Thanks for replying Smile xx

Flowerkm · 24/08/2020 13:12

@CLKELL Aw, it's so stressful isn't it? We haven't been properly TTC just yet, we're going to wait one more cycle then start but it is nerve wracking. Sending lots of baby dust to you.

Keep us updated, feel free to chat here. We chat daily about anything and everything :) xx

Elsie2021 · 24/08/2020 18:50

Just done my first ever OPK, they arrived today.

I’m CD 21, no temperature rise yet. OPK blank. 10% according to the app.

I can always hope I have ovulated and I’m in the window between LH peak and temperature rise but I think I’m reality I’m just going to ovulate really late.

Elsie2021 · 24/08/2020 19:05

@Juno231 glad you got a temperature rise and in good time!

@MintGreenLife I think go with every other day DTD, especially if you could be going a while! Every day is counter productive if you tire yourselves out before the big O day actually happens! What are your OPKs doing?

@CLKELL sorry it sounds like you’ve had a really difficult time! I would say just start temping and OPKs now. If you haven’t ovulated yet then you’ll catch it, and if not you’ll at least get a good idea of your normal. It does sound like you really had a period though to me.

Elsie2021 · 24/08/2020 19:06

@CLKELL sorry *doesnt sound.

But it might have been your body trying.

Elsie2021 · 25/08/2020 07:21

@MintGreenLife my femometer thermometer just did a similar thing that yours did. I got the lowest reading I’ve ever had before at 35.63, so I did it again and got 37.84! When I did it again it was back to 35 something, then 37 again. I think perhaps it just doesn’t like you taking it again too close after 🤷‍♀️

MintGreenLife · 25/08/2020 09:23

Morning everyone :) thanks for your advice re DTD timing - decided to stick with every other day as planned!

@Elsie2021 I guess the temperature on the surface from just taking your temp can impact the next one? My temps are surprisingly lower than last cycle as I've had a few now at 35.something, whereas I had never had anything under 36.xx before. Generally they are hovering around 36.10, which again is lower than last cycle as average was 36.3.

We're in the same boat with late ovulation, super annoying isn't it as makes it feel like you're waiting forever! Earliest I have ovulated was around CD25 which was my first cycle off the pill...has been getting later and later ever since urgh x

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