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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 11:51

@Hopeful87 welcome :) so much of what you've said is similar to me! I too asked a nurse at my last pill check whether I should come off the pill to get ready to TTC and was told no and that I would start ovulating straight away.

For a while I thought I wasn't ovulating, but in hindsight I just had a very short luteal phase the first two cycles, and finally a proper luteal phase this cycle (currently 12DPO), but it did take me until CD36 to ovulate!

The three month thing makes sense, as that's how long the maturing process of the eggs takes. Think short luteal phase first few cycles is due to an unsatisfactory ovulation, which makes sense if it takes three months for eggs to mature properly.

I'm praying I have a normal cycle and ovulate at a decent time next cycle as would really like a good shot at TTC in the timeframe that we need to fit in with our postponed wedding next year.

Hopefully as you had such a long cycle to begin with your next luteal phase will be better as you'd surely be past the three month mark of being off the pill by then. I think I'm around 4 months off now x

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Juno231 · 03/08/2020 13:13

@crabette the spike happens after ovulation though, not the day of. What's your temp today vs Sat? That big dip in temp yday makes me think you may have ovulated same day as your peak opk potentially.

Juno231 · 03/08/2020 13:17

@Hopeful87 welcome! I'm TTC#1 at 32, on my 7th cycle now. When I came off the pill in Oct last year I had been on it for 14 years I think. My cycles are fairly regular but not very if that makes sense. As in my longest cycle has been 30 days so that's good, but I still never have a clue when I'll ovulate or how long my LP will be as it varies every single month. I've also had lots of spots (and greasy hair!) since coming off the pill.

So you'll fit right in ha! Bet that's one club no one ever wanted to be part of :)

Flowerkm · 03/08/2020 13:27

@MintGreenLife I think Im going to wait but Im still going to be tracking with OPKs and then hopefully September we’re all good to go :)

Welcome @Hopeful87 Im only about a month off the pill now and had my first AF last week which is just finishing. Strangely enough i feel my hair and skin has been slightly more greasy, i thought it might have been were it was hot but now Im thinking its pill related. Keep us posted with how you get on ☺️ xx

MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 13:48

@Juno231 @Flowerkm @Hopeful87 oh I'm totally on board with the greasier hair! I used to be a wash-my-hair-every-5-days kinda gal, but a month or so off the pill and that wasn't cutting it anymore! Seems to be better now though. I also have bumpy skin on my forehead and around my temples which is new to me, but I recal I had a short break from the pill at around 23 and the same thing happened.

Apparently the pill supresses sebum production, which causes your body to try to produce more, but it can't because of the suppression so you just go round and round in circles. When you come off the suppression has stopped, but you still produce more for a while x

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Juno231 · 03/08/2020 14:42

@MintGreenLife yup I've got the forehead and temples as well - plus the hormonal ones around mouth/jaw. Beautiful combo overall! This cycle it's improved a fair bit but I can't tell if it's regulating or if it's to do with my new cleanser that I'm now using twice daily.

crabette · 03/08/2020 15:22

@Juno231 Sat temp was the dip, so that was 36.03, today is 36.33. I didn't temp yesterday, as I was insanely hungover and woke up with the sweats, which doesn't help! (We were meant to get married on Saturday there, so were drowning our sorrows a bit in cocktails Sat night!!) But did my OPK in the Sunday afternoon and got the positive. So just see how the temps go the next few days I guess!

@Hopeful87 welcome!! I'm 32 TTC #1 too, and also been on the pill - then a break for hormonal mirena coil, which isn't much better - and the pill again since I was about 16/17. Stopped mid June thinking we were getting married August 1st and wanted to TTC right away... but we've postponed our wedding now til October. So kind of NTNP (not trying not preventing) - I didn't want to go back on the pill as I've now realised what a mare it is in screwing up my system!! But trying to wait enough time that I still fit my dress. So just trying to understand how things are working at the moment. I had a withdrawal bleed when I stopped my pills, and then a very short, light, first period a few weeks later - and then this is my first proper cycle since that. So if I have a normal cycle this month (fingers crossed!) then I think we'll start properly TTC next cycle. You sound much more educated than me on the topic - still learning from everyone, but this thread is a godsend!

@Flowerkm Totally get you wanting to wait to time things around your sister's wedding. It's so difficult - we're obviously trying to time things just now too. Hard to strike a balance between finding it difficult to conceive and seizing every cycle opportunity, and other life considerations - like my DP is happy to TTC from now... but it's not him who needs to fit into a wedding dress or not have a glass of fizz on our wedding day! I think we'll go from September too though. Max 8 weeks pregnant on the day, I'm sure I'll deal with the sobriety and nausea if we're lucky quickly!

eternalflame2020 · 03/08/2020 15:33

Hi all. Your original post is really interesting @mintgreenlife I'm in my 2nd cycle ttc after coming off the mini pill. It took 4 and a half weeks for my period to come after I came off. I then started temping and ovulated on day 17 with my cycle ending up being 27 days. When it came it was so so painful and heavy. Now I'm on CD10 of this current cycle and have been having cramps for a few days. I took an ovulation test and the second line is dark. I'm not sure what this means as I haven't really used them before, but my temp hadn't risen today. Do you think it means I might ovulate in the next 24 hours? This would be a whole week earlier than last cycle! I was only on the pill for 8 months so it just shows the effect it can have. X

MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 15:53

@eternalflame2020 welcome :) ovulating on CD17 is brilliant so soon after stopping, I was CD36 this time on my third cycle off eek! Well a line darker than the control is a positive OPK, which generally means you'll ovulate in the next 12-48 hours. But ideally you want to keep testing and see the line get fainter again, then you know that's your peak. You could test for a few days and have darker lines the whole time, the last day of a dark line is when you'd expect to ovulate 12-48 hours after. Your temp increase happens the day after you ovulate, hope that makes sense? x

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Flowerkm · 03/08/2020 15:54

@crabette It is so tricky isn’t it? There will always be ‘something’ that could stop you trying and you do have to take every opportunity when it comes to cycles but i feel its best to wait and totally agree with your reasonings as well. 8 weeks would be fine, that would be a lovely little secret between the two of you on the day ☺️

@eternalflame2020 hey! Your cycles sound like they’re fairly good actually. This is only my first month off and so far its ok just hope it continues! I don’t actually temp yet so can’t advise on the temp but with OPKs the test line needs to be as dark or darker as the control line to be a positive ☺️ which ones do you use? X

eternalflame2020 · 03/08/2020 16:14

@mintgreenlife it's really good to talk to others who are ttc after coming off the pill. I'm 35 and ttc for the first time so it feels like the pressure is on! That makes sense with the opk...I'll keep an eye on the temps too and see what happens. I was a little worried about the 10 day luteal phase but hoping that'll lengthen as time goes by. Have you seen any change in the length of your luteal phase over the three cycles?

@flowerkm I'm using a left over stick from the clear blue digi that I have left from last month and just peeing straight onto it rather than buying the whole kit again. I started way too late last month so it didn't really work. What do you use?

MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 16:31

@eternalflame2020 it seems like it's fairly common to have a short luteal phase the first couple of cycles, think that's down to the muturing process of the egg taking three months, so in theory by cycle three it should be better. Mine was less than 5 days my first two cycles! I'm now 12DPO so on track to have a perfectly normal luteal phase ☺️

I find it super helpful to have people to chat about it all with. Saves my OH from me talking what would be absolute nonsense to him! Xx

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MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 16:34

@Flowerkm that makes a lot of sense, and just gives you more time to let your cycle settle down and learn about TTC ☺️ Should think you'll be in a really good position when you get started! Xx

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Lettie365 · 03/08/2020 16:36

Hi, just wanted to put my experience of coming off the pill incase it helped anyone. I was on the combined pill and was planning to come off it at the end of the pack.
Sunday 5th July I woke up having a bleed which I found very confusing. I had 6 pills left to go until my breakthrough week. Anyway I decided to stop taking it as I was already bleeding.
Counted that as CD1 used OPKs from CD9 - positive on CD 14, got my BFP 12DPO 😳 all rather fast! So it can happen straight away!! Best of luck to all TTC xx

Juno231 · 03/08/2020 16:38

@eternalflame2020 if it helps then the first LP I tracked in Jan was 11 days, Feb jumped to 14 and then after that it's ranged from 12-14 each cycle. Bear in mind I came off the pill in October so Jan would have been my fourth cycle off the pill. It got better at least!

Hopeful87 · 03/08/2020 17:07

Thanks for the lovely welcome all Smile I've been tracking a few threads but this one really spoke to me as I see so much of what I'm going through reflected in other people's stories.

@MintGreenLife I'm glad you managed to ovulate eventually. I feel your pain - I was hopeful after last month that this month would be within a good time frame but that was clearly wishful thinking! At least now I'm temping it should give me a better indication of when it finally does happen. It's a shame to hear about postponing the wedding and I hope things go well for September. I saw you mentioned the "Period Repair Manual" and tempted to try and read it. I love to analyse everything so I'm sure this will help put my mind at ease and maybe provide some tips.

@Juno231 Haha, yeah not my first choice of club but hearing other people's stories have really helped me as I was starting to despair! I wanted to wait until after our honeymoon in February to stop, especially due to Zika, but I do feel pressure now, especially with my age. I know I shouldn't really when so many more women are having kids in their 30s, I must learn to be patient!

@Flowerkm Thanks and I will do Smile. I have definitely noticed more oily skin since going off the pill, but luckily not been too bad with the spots. So far anyway...

@crabette Sorry to hear you had to postpone your wedding. We got married last year but I think if we had a date for this year I may have been tempted to start TTC rather than holding off further for the wedding. I knew nothing about the menstrual cycle and TTC before going off the pill but I've learned a lot since then. I did have to look up all the acronyms at the start though!

eternalflame2020 · 03/08/2020 17:18

@mintgreenlife ahh that's so good to hear you're 12dpo now and it's settling down! I know what you mean about chewing the OH ear off - I don't think he has any idea what I'm talking about most the time.

@juno231 that's really nice to hear too. I've always suffered such heavy and painful periods which is why I was on the mini pill in the first place. Always wondered if my cycles are just a bit messed up but fingers crossed it will settle.

Thank you all for being so welcoming :)

Hopeful87 · 03/08/2020 17:22

@Lettie365 wow that was quick Shock. Thanks for the positive message and congratulations Smile

Flowerkm · 03/08/2020 18:41

@eternalflame2020 Ah, i see. I use the Femometer strips from Amazon to do daily and then when Im getting high/peak i used the Clear Blue digi ones to sort of confirm the strips :)

@Lettie365 - oh wow! Thats super fast ☺️congratulations on your BFP xx

MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 19:03

@Hopeful87 so glad you find the thread helpful ☺️ It's nice that there are so many of us going through the same thing! I would highly reccomend that book, especially if like me you haven't had a natural AF in such a long time, as it explains what's normal, what's not, and gives natural treatments for all possible issues. Thanks so much for the well wishes about the wedding. I'm just pleased we can still officially get married this year (hopefully!) as that's the main thing ☺️ X

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MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 19:07

@eternalflame2020 haha, I might just be thinking about something and occasionally just make a statement at him about periods or ovulation or something and he's usually just like 'mmhmmm' and nods 🙈 I know I'm far better coming on here to ramble! I'm expecting AF in a day or two so will let you know how long my luteal phase actually is! I'm ever so slightly worried I could have miscalculated ovulation day, but I chart my BBT in three apps and they all pinpoint the same day, and I've had a really clear temp rise, just with a couple of random days of low temps, but the days they are on coincide with having a 'fallback rise' at 2DPO and a secondary estrogen surge at 5 DPO, so hopefully I've got ovulation day right and I am at 12DPO like I think I am x

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MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 19:09

@Flowerkm how do you find the femometer OPKs? I might try them instead of the easy@home ones as apparently they can be really sensitive, and it winds me up that I always have a line xx

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Flowerkm · 03/08/2020 19:28

@MintGreenLife i really like them. Some days I got totally blank results which reassured me nothing was happening, and then i did get a line a few days before it darkened, i feel it was quite accurate and didn't give me any light lines unless i was approaching my peaks or a few days before it rose.
Now looking back i know what to look out for this month but i find them easy to read and i quite like the app.
I agree with the OH just saying 'yep' to my waffling. He's so good and does ask how I am and wants to know but he hasn't got a clue really and kind of panics 😂 so glad I have here! He always says, you on your forum again and Im like 'yes, I am' 😂 xx

MintGreenLife · 03/08/2020 22:10

@Flowerkm hmm I think I'll try those ones instead then ☺️ Just waiting for AF and then will order them so I can get going on a new cycle! Haha thank goodness for you lot! TTC and all this stuff is on my mind so much, but find it far better to chat it all through on here instead of to OH who wouldn't know what the hell I was carrying on about 😂

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MintGreenLife · 04/08/2020 07:57

Morning @Juno231 ☺️ My temp seems to be on the way back down again (chart attached). As this is the first time I've had a proper luteal phase, I wanted to ask if your temps start coming down again slowly before AF comes, or whether they drop suddenly? Having never got this far before I'm not really sure what to expect or what's normal 🙈 Also does your temp drop below the coverline when AF is about to arrive? Thanks! X

Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)
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