Still TTC your first baby? New thread for toomuch's mobile!!

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New thread so toomuch can load it on her mobile.

Hope you're all well, any news this morning?

Yes, still sunny here, and trapped in office all day. No site visits available unfortunately.

Yes, I could have given him a much longer list this morning of things that really annoyed me, including only having about 1'6" of the bed for much of the time last night, and having all duvet removed - twice.

Sorry, have developed summer cold with the sort of headache that makes your molars throb despite paracetamol.

Weather does make me feel a bit more chearful though!

Hi All, Got a surge days ago and my temp has not gone up I am wondering if I am having one of those cycles where there is no egg. Either that or I am late because I have been poorly, who knows!!!

My life is all over the place at the min. My business partner announced that she did not want to come back after the baby, so it looks like we might have to sell the business but I actually think that I am not that worried. We've not been getting on recently.

I am full of a summer cold too and I have exactly the same feeling in my molars.

BB - sorry to hear of business partner issues - but sounds as though you're better out of it. Will you be able to get a place on your own? And what will you do when babybb comes along? Or are you going to do something completely different?

Molars slightly better today, although sneezing a lot and runny nose (nice) and am doing cooking show tonight that I need not to cough, sneeze and sniff through!

Another lovely sunny day to spend in the office.

My head is spinning at the moment because I do not want to give up on the business but I also do not want to keep working with my BP because we are both 50/50 directors she will be entitled to half the profits even if she does not work.

I had always intended that my baby would come to work with me and my mum had offered to take care of it.

I am not sure I would open a business on my own again. I am starting to wonder whether a job working nine to five and having maternity leave is the answer.

I know no one can tell me the right answer but I wish someone had a magic wand.

I hope you are feeling better for tonight, I am blowing my nose like there is no tomorrow.

I work 4 dpw (ds in nursery 3.5days), but I also do Pampered Chef cooking shows some evenings. Work only gives stat. mat pay (which is crap compared to salary - ended up with huge debt due to loss of earnings). Pampered Chef is now acting as top up, although some people make a full-time wage with it - advantage is that dp can look after dc after work so that you can go out and do cooking show.

Sounds as though current situation with BP no good: would it cost too much to buy her out?

Are you still going shopping with insurance money?

I ended up making wedding dress - at the time everything was a bit too ornamented and fussy and I'm not a standard shape, so trying on dresses was rather frustrating!

I work 4 dpw (ds in nursery 3.5days), but I also do Pampered Chef cooking shows some evenings. Work only gives stat. mat pay (which is crap compared to salary - ended up with huge debt due to loss of earnings). Pampered Chef is now acting as top up, although some people make a full-time wage with it - advantage is that dp can look after dc after work so that you can go out and do cooking show.

Sounds as though current situation with BP no good: would it cost too much to buy her out?

Are you still going shopping with insurance money?

I ended up making wedding dress - at the time everything was a bit too ornamented and fussy and I'm not a standard shape, so trying on dresses was rather frustrating!

We can't afford to buy her out without taking on more debt, which we do not want to do when we are ttc.

We need to stock the shop if we want to sell it, because we still need to earn money. So I still get to go shopping.

We will get some extra money from insurance for Business interuption which would pay all the shop debt which will mean we are free to sell.

I just feel silly because everybody warned me about my BP but I trusted her but that is me all over.

I think I have almost made my decision. I will not be able to give up work if I have a baby. I wish my business partner had told me this before we started the business.

Our wedding dresses are expensive because they are all silk but they are plain because We were same when we were shopping. The service was terrible and we could not find what we wanted. Hence we looked for a gap and spotted one in Sheffield and opened the shop.

Wish I'd know about a shop like you when I got married!

Mind you it was even worse for a friend that got married about 15 yrs ago - at a time when there were lots of big hooped dresses that were very flouncy on the skirts - and lots of strapless tops. She was a small size 4. Went shopping with her for dresses and she'd come out of the changing room holding top saying 'how do you keep this up?' - not a problem I have ever had I may say. Ended up with something I think was probably meant to be a bridesmaid dress although white which was much less ott than anything else.

Did like choosing silk for dress though - ended up in London at Broadwick Silks - fabulous! Also bought silk for dh's and my father's waistcoats there (same pattern, different colours - very different appearance).

At least you can sell shop as going concern - do you think that there will be much interest?

MT -sorry to hear about your BP - at least it gives you a chance to take stock and decide what you want out of life - rather than being stuck a BP you no longer get on with..

BB - Sorry to hear about your crazy cycle this month.. I started temping this month - how much of a celcius increase is an increase IYSWIM?

The weather is fab today so feeling a bit more cheery however, like you two I am coming down with cold

Toomuch - not my BP - BB's!

Good news is that although my cold sounds worse, I feel better than I did yesterday. Weather fantastic. Need to be at home mowing the lawn rather than doing invoices!

And I need to cut the neighbours hedge and cut away some excess soil that is against our garage that's making it leak. And I need to do some gardening in the veg garden, oh, and some weeding.

That and tidy the house, but I know which I'm more likely to do, particularly on a day like today! Not that I'm going to get to do either though.

And I'm cooking two chocolate recipies tonight, which means that I won't even get a small bit (violently allergic to chocolate). Didn't think of that when I offered to do 2 choc recipies - but its probably best for my diet.

MT - allergic to chocolate!!!!! You poor thing!!!!

MT - Serves me right for rushing.. I got your names mixed up in the response - sorry!!

[skulks away in shame]

Hello,

I went to the doc's on Friday have been having a lot of cramping and pain and AF is late. I did a pregnancy test at the doc's but it was negative. Apart from the cramping I've no other symptoms that I could be pregnant. I'm driving myself crazy though I'm starting to think that coz it wasn't my first morning wee then maybe it was a false negative. I'm trying to make myself wait until this Friday before testing again but I'm going nuts!

Going to keep going with the shop and sell it as a going concern in a few months or so. At least the hard work will be worth it then.

My temp only goes up 0.2/0.3 oC. Not sure what is happening to me this month but I think I am may have been reading my OPK's wrong because I have been getting faint lines and reading them as a positive but yesterday I got a line exactly the same colour as my test line. Im not worried my cycles have been regular so I am putting this months down to stress. Fingers crossed.

I would love to have a chocolate allergy, it might make me lose weight.

BB - choc allergy doesn't seem to have helped, still need to lose quite a bit (but 3lbs down on last week this morning - probably a combination of things, but still going in the right direction at last - hurrah!).

Choc allergy unfortunately doesn't make me ill - I could probably live with that and still enjoy the occasional bit of really dark chocolate and suffer the consequences - it totally changes my mood to the extent that I become effectively another person - and the real me isn't in control. The trouble is that this has become much worse over the years and I now have to avoid all chocolate - otherwise I might end up with no job, no dh etc. And the stuff I crave is the really dark, bitter chocolate (not after the sugar or the milk - just want the bit that I'm really allergic to!).

Because of this, ds (2.3) has not yet had any chocolate - leaving him off it as long as possible to try to avoid the problem! He talked about a cake first thing this morning - I think he dreamed of making the cake that they decorated at nursery yesterday (which is rather nice, but as he could only eat a marshmallow as it was covered in chocolate icing, a bit sad too).

BB when are you going shopping? Where do you go for that sort of thing (particularly if you want more unusual 'plainer' dresses). How long do you think your BP will carry on working.

I know how hard it is when you're struggling to conceive and other people just seem to manage straight away - been there. Had the worse issue that, having had mc and molar pregnancy, then was not allowed to even try for a year - while lots of people around at work were all falling... Its difficult. Hope mumsnet helps you through.

Sorry, meant to say, Hi pixie - can't advise I'm afraid, but fingers crossed that its good news for you. Do try to stop yourself testing too soon, otherwise we'll have another visit from the BlueFairy with some strong words for you.

Had 2 good news stories on this thread last month, so possibly a reasonable place to be, although some veterans might have a moan now and then - please excuse us!

Good morning lovlies!

Hiyah Kensgirl - HOw are you this morning? Still revelling in having done all school work? Are you going away somewhere sometime so that your summer holidays don't seem too long? Rather of course!

How are you feeling? I'm waiting to see if dh is going to cooperate this month or not. Not got my hopes up, but we'll see!

Hi mistlethush! hope Dh does decide to get on with things for ou this month, it must be so frustrating for you!

I'm not too bad, a bit up and down thh, as it has been 7.5 months and 10 cycles since pmp, i truly thought we would be pg by now, so feeling a bit barren.

We are going on hols next week, to the Dominican republic, so I hope this does the trick. If not, we are now starting to talk about going to see the gp, to put the ball in motion, but not sure if he will just tell me to keep trying till 12 months are up.

hve got lots do this holiday though, 2 weddings, our 1st aniversary, sorting out a remortgage, bits in the house etc, so i'm sure I can keep busy, if can get my backside into gear !

Have fun, and plenty of practise when away I hope! It took me 6.5months after being allowed to start again ie 23 months after initial mc and later diagnosis of mp followed by treatment. Don't get too down. What you have to tell yourself is that it happened before - this is great as it means that eg its possible for implantation to happen naturally - a major positive. After all, this sort of thing is really helpful even if you end up having to consider other assistance such as IVF. And it took me 4 years to get to top of IVF list the first time (since starting TTC) - before the mp, so I do know exactly how you're feeling right now.

Given history, don't think it would hurt seeing the Doctor early anyway - they can only say wait a bit longer, but if you don't ask you have no hope of things progressing a bit more quickly. But don't give up hope - look at me. I know I mope here a bit, but do have fantastic ds to cheer me up too. That'll be you one day!

(ds managed to recite a large part of the alphabet this morning - everything from j onwards, although a bit mumbled in places. I don't know what he thinks it is - I sing it as a song to him and I think he probably gets it at nursery too!)

Good Morning ladies, I am trying to stay positive about this whole ttc thing I do not think I have ovulated this month. My temp does not seem to be going up.

Wedding dress shopping is great when you own a shop, you get to go to a big trade fair in harrogate held next month. Most of the designers are there. Our dresses are plain because that is where we thought the gap was and it seems to have worked for us for now. I have decided to take on one issue at a time with the shop. Next years financial forecast is first and then business partner.

Kensgirl go to your doc, I have been ttc for 9 months with no joy and they are going to start me off on blood tests etc. I am really struggling to believe this will ever happen for me. We had our first anniversary in May. I go on holiday in 4 weeks and I am hoping that may help but who knows.

Thanks Mistlethrush and BabyBratt. It just feels unreal that it is me who is having problems conceiving, you laways think it will be fine.

I am going to go if this cycle doesn't work after our holiday, due to ov (if I am doing...) while we are away.

I'm a it worried that as the last one was so very wrong that I have someting wrong with my eggs, and that the ERPC has somehow damaged me, in that I could get pg very quickly, but now nothing, or that my hormonal balance is wrong.

Sounds a bit irrational when I write it down, but I'm sure you'll know what I mean.

Babybratt, I don't live too far from you, in Droylsden, we looked at houses in Wodhouses, and I passed my driving test in Failsworth! sorry to see you are having the added trauma of your business and partner, must be dificult at the moment.

wWas your GP enouraging?

Kensgirl - if it helps, I ended up with 2 erpcs - 1 following initial mc adn one 3 months later when I finally got diagnosed - by then mp apparently made it difficult not to rupture during erpc (sorry if tmi). However, despite that, here I am with lovely ds.

I'm not that far away either! Leeds. Although Sheffield is not my favourite city following multiple visits to Weston Park Hosp.

Probably worry and stress worst problem for you - I had resigned myself to the IVF treatment so was not remotely considering that would get BFP before treatment started - so I suppose I wasn't worrying about it. I also resigned from job which I wasn't enjoying and got BFP during working my notice (crap timing from that point of view, but very welcome from the not needing IVF after all).

Also, when you do get BFP, you should be able to get some additional early scans - I got one at 6wks and one at 9wks just to make sure everything OK. 1st scan waited about an hour after appointment time - didn't have any nails left.

I didn't know you were a Leeds lady !! I thought somewhere like Gloucester....don't know why! Thanks for being so encouraging though, I saw a friends wife at a wedding on Sunday, and they had been trying 16 mnths, she is now 22 weeks, so all is not lost. I think I'm being impatient, and as a self confessed control freak, don'tlike that helpless feeling.

How long did it take you to get an ivf referral etc?

Now, I tink its time i ent to see who has got some pics on their profiles! I keep trying to guess what everyone is like, esp Mistlethrush, so ...

Ah... well, I quite like being fairly anonymous (sp!!!???) in many ways, so have not got anything on my profile! So you'll just have to keep guessing. Although I would like to put a pic of ds on in someways as he's so smashing (apart from when he is being 2yo from hell of course).

Gloucester - in someways not far off, as originally a southerner, although I've been up in Leeds now for about 15yrs.

Referral for IVF, well conception probs - quite quick referal really as I think that we left it 18 months before going to Dr. (We just thought that it would happen at some stage). Then various tests, then consultations with IVF team, acceptance on list, but suggestion that we try naturally and wait for the NHS list for the 1st course - probably 6 month longer wait that private at the time. Then got BFP just as I was told that I was at the top of the list and called in for the last minute tests etc - then mc, 3months later 2nd erpc and 4 months chemo (last injection on my edd which I didn't realise until I saw edd on screen at Drs when there for injection - completely floored me again - then had to wait 1yr....

Very lucky with nice consultant which is good - and after mp you do tend to get ref for early scans without too much trouble, unlike in normal circumstances (eg before I was properly diagnosed).

Did you ever have to go down to Sheffield or did you manage to avoid it?