The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread

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Is that why everyone has gone spookily quiet on here today...?

@BettySwoll0cks oh that is not on!
Will you be responding?

@Kinsters sorry AF showed but at least you can start a new cycle and fx this one will be it.

@Frazzlerock great news about DH job wise, a friend of mine does consulting and loves it (plus gets paid a fortune). Good job you called hospital.

Checked what details I have on MN but doesn't look like I gave much info when I signed up as all my personal info fields re empty. Am worried though about the PMs as a couple of ladies here have my real name, phone number and home address via PM. So much of this happens now - British Airways and Marriott/SPG also had breaches and they have an awful lot of data on me - not just home address and phone number but credit card and passport!

@Bettyswoll0cks can you complain? I'd say something.

You bet I'll come back on it @Frazzle, but I resisted sending anything today which was grown up of me. I was feeling like a bit of a loose canon at first, after I read it.

I have noticed though that my confidence has taken quite a knock because of this last last year. Or maybe a combination of that and having returned to work with a DC. I'm less punchy and less keen on confrontation generally. I am totally set on leaving my current work in 2 years as a result, looking forward to doing something a bit more 'zen'

Frazzle that's great about the jobs, sounds like he has plenty of things in the pipeline.

I don't really understand the data breach thing. It looks like as long as we didn't log in over the last few days it should be fine?

My period seems more normal than last cycle which I'm pleased about. Fx for next month! Although I think DH might be away over the crucial time. At the moment the app is saying anytime Tuesday - Thursday and I'm sure DH mentioned going away on Tuesday so if it happened on Thursday that would be annoying. The cycle after that is a definite write off as DH is away for 2 weeks with my o day bang in the middle of those 2 weeks.

Ah, that’s better... finally back online. Was logged out but obviously forgot my password! Had a bit of a panic I wouldn’t be able to get back on and keep following events. Phew!

Still here, just had a manic day with work yesterday.

Contracting would be great for him Frazzle - cool pojects, flexibility & more money... win win 👍🏼👍🏼

Sorry about the email Betty - hope you manage to construct an equally patronising response!

In terms of the data breach, I've read it was a hack job. Apparently some trans feminist has been threatening MN with it for a while? Surelyyyyy there are better ways to spend your Wednesday evening?

Glad it's back to normal Kinsters. Let's hope he's not away next month 🤞🏼 so bloody frustrating isn't it.

*projects, not sure what a poject is 🙈

That's awesome @frazzle, that must be lightening the mood a bit at home?

Pissed off with my body. What the hell is this? Laziest, crappest temp rise ever. This must say something about ovulation and/or hormone responses, surely?

It's super consistent and smooth though Betty, that's something. I attached a screen shot from the fertility friends app. They've done a few studies on data they get from the app and saw no correlation between either post-o temp alone or pre-o vs post-o temp in pregnancy and non-pregnancy charts. I can see why you'd prefer a more dramatic increase in temp though, it's really annoying when it takes ages to get going.

Did you get your day 21 progesterone tested?

Morning all
I don't think the rise looks bad Betty - surely a steady rise is a good thing??

I think I Od yesterday.... 2nd peak on cbfm and the OPK was much lighter than day before. Back to high today and negative OPK.
Temps don't really show much as been all over the place sleep wise this week - infact they would suggest I ovd on day 12 but no LH surge until day 14 so think it's a flukey temp like the one I discounted where I woke up on the sun apparently 🤪

Think even after everything this week dtd wise was ok timed tho. Didn't take the pre-seed to the hotel as thought there was no chance on 3-5th tho which is now irritating!! Used plenty the last couple of days tho. Going to pounce again later after work just in case.....

I had this last cycle @Betty. I didn't think too much of it though as none of my cycles are the same

I found this which might help:
www.avawomen.com/avaworld/slow-bbt-rise-why-it-happens-what-it-means/

I've just written a post with my charts, as need some clarity, but I can't upload my pics until about 10am when I'm out of my 24 hour photo uploading curfew so it will have to wait!

Timing looks great Tigsy!

That's interesting Frazzle, conception is so scientific! I wish at home ultrasound machines were a thing so we could look at our ovaries.

God I'm bored today. These past two days are like the Chinese equivalent of 27th and 28th December, most people off work, so I've sat and twiddled my thumbs for two days. Only an hour till a can turn my laptop off though and we're flying hooome this evening and going skiing on Monday!

morning all, absent yesterday as had pretty emotional and manic day sorting out car claiming stuff (ended up crying on a random man's shoulder in middle of Mcdonalds about everything! Poor guy!)

Not sure how worried I am about the MN issue, I suppose I should be worried that a technical glitch was missed and able to do all that though.

Good news about DP's job Frazzle and glad it means he has perked up in mood!

Bloomin annoying about DH being away potentially this cycle and next cycle when it matters Kin ! urgh! frustrated for you

Betty that actually looks like my temp rise that got me this bean so not sure it is a bad thing at all to have a slow and steady rise like that!

tigsy yeah does look like a classic chart of disturbed sleep! Would be lovely if you guys (well if everyone tbh) got a BFP after the whole court issues!

oh so frustrating with the pic upload limit sometimes Frazzle especially for us on these TTC I feel!

The work thing is super annoying Twittle - I even looked up whether you can freeze sperm at home, apparently not!

I hope today is less emotional and manic for you.

Timing looks spot on Tigsy. Hopefully you do get a BFP this month - what a fab month it would be for you (plus a massive two fingers to twatty ex-wife).

Oh Twittle what a rubbish day. Hopefully you have a better one today. Are you still struggling with sickness? Probably not helping things at all x

All of our plans for the weekend have been cancelled due to the equine flu outbreak so we are going to do absolutely nothing all weekend. I am so excited. Literally sat here counting down the hours....

Right, trying again to upload pics...

Chart experts (@TwittleBee ) I need you!

So Ovusense has kept my ovulation for Monday (1st pic) We BD'd the day before (twice) so I know you all say that is good, but for some reason I don't think it's enough but that's probs just my pessimism.

Bloody FF has changed my ov day to Tuesday the buggers 😓 (pic 2). So if that is correct then I'm deffo out 😢

Which one do you think is right based on my temps?
I can handle the truth...

@Frazzle I think you ovulated on Monday, positive thinking 😘

I would say Monday Frazzle - I always have a dip on my Ov day similar to your lil dip on the Monday and FF is odd in that sometimes they will recognise that and class that as Ov day and a few times they have put it as the next day instead (I and so then I have only a 9 day LP according to FF but I know it is 10). Plus with Temp rising post Ov, like you can see on Tuesday, it surely means you Ovd on Monday and FF is just being awkward because of the coverline being so high?

Kin I so would have done something similar too!

Rather oh of course! Heard that in the news this morning! Why is it so serious btw?

*11 day LP but I know it is 12 (jeez cant even recall my LP length now! idiot )

Frazzle why would you be out is either are right... you are fertile for a good while pre-Ov .... see pic xx

Frazzle even if it is Tuesday (and I've found FF less accurate lately) you're definitely not out yet. If it was Tuesday you'd have dtd twice on O-2 which is supposedly the most fertile day. More is always better but you're definitely not out!

Thank you all, I just feel more negative about this one than any of my cycles. Just pissed me off so much that I waited so long for ovulation and then didn't even BD throughout my fertile window, apart from day before, which I know you all say is good. I just can't see his sperm hanging around even 5 mins let alone a whole 24 hours. Nothing personal to him, I just don't have faith. Mainly in my body having the right environment given I never have proper EWCM and I only got proper sticky CM throughout my fertile window this time - though I did use preseed that day before.

I guess I won't know for sure until AF arrives. I am almost thinking I should stop temping now ov has been predicted and wait for AF to arrive. I think I will stress about the temps being too high or too low each day!

Anyway, thank you for your input, it has given me slight hope but I am trying not to be hopeful at the same time.

@Twittle Sorry you were feeling so fraught yesterday, but now I want a MacDonalds!

@Kinsters Why do these things always happen over ov eh? That would really upset me Go with him!

That you used Pre Seed I think is a massive bonus Frazzle ! Oh and I can certainly recommend that Big Mac with Bacon haha