The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

[Frazzlerock]

Here it is! Our lucky one 🤞

@Twittle I am just reading your thread. Jeeeeezus! The cheek of your neighbours!

Thanks @Rose we shall see I guess

I'm with you on the shatteredness. I kept drifting off on Saturday afternoon and today I feel like I could sleep standing up. Maybe you didn't sleep well last night?

I think I slept like a log last night... maybe it’s rising progesterone.... Let’s just blame progesterone for everything ☺️

Yeah progesterone, you dick
I was taking progesterone when pregnant with Popsy and it made me so bloated, I was also wiped out but I wasn't sure if that was the prog or the pregnancy.

I've decided to turn my shit morning around:
Okay, so the worst was the Death Breath. At least my bag doesn't smell of that, just lovely fresh coffee. Plus I can still see, I didn't blind myself..... and at least I tried to sew up my jeans.... and I got a space - it may be far away but I still got a space. I guess you could say I've had a lucky day so far
I'm still sticking two fingers up to my stupid temps though

Yesss Frazzle I'm all for the positives....! I am actually thinking of starting a gratitude diary. I'm not one for mindfulness etc (nothing against it, just have never gotten into it) but a friend (my boss actually) suggested that it could be good for me after the MC. There's so much good stuff in my life yet I often always put those wonderful things to the back of my head and concentrate on beating myself up for not being pregnant, not having a baby.
Is it too late to start right at the end of Jan

I don't mind a bit of mindfulness now and again.
My preferred method is the Life Coaching - "If you feel shit, just feel shit and don't feel bad about it" method.

I think we all know we have great things in our lives and we are all grateful but sometimes the shit really hits and it is hard to just sit there and be like "I am so grateful for my wonderful life" you know?

There is one classic statement that really gets my back up. It's the "Be grateful for the children you already have" Like I don't appreciate my children (who are my world) and being grateful should negate the pain and grief of losing a baby. My own dad told me to be grateful for what I have already. I wanted to jump down his throat but decided to ignore it

I think the diary would be a great idea though @rather and it is never too late! I was writing a diary when pregnant but I stopped it after we found out our baby had died. I finished it with a final 'goodbye' entry.
It was really cathartic to write.

I've a question, is anyone using Flo app?
I am using it along with the other apps and becuase I entered a + OPK, it now says that I have ovulated and am on the countdown to AF, despite me putting a low temp in this morning.
Shall I take the +OPK out?
I might contact them and ask

I honestly couldnt get along with Flo at all Frazzle - does seem that it has focused on the +OPK as clearly hasnt bothered waiting for 3 rising temps. Hope your chart starts making sense over this next couple days - hoping its not one of those mega long cycles you get.

Rather I used to keep a diary like that during uni - I also find just writing in general to help it all get out. I love list making anyway

@Frazzlerock surely the big positive here is that you get to shop for a new handbag and jeans?

@Twittle yeah I'm wondering if it is worth bothering with, but I have invested in it for so long now.

@Betty If only! I've already used my spare cash on a leg wax at the weekend (£38 well spent IMO, I was looking like a gorilla) and I only got paid on Friday! Next month I have to use it on getting my hair cut, unless I end up reaching for the kitchen scissors in desperation.

@Frazzlerock I hear you, although it's time I don't have as opposed to money. I haven't been to the hairdresser in ages, so last weekend when DS decided we had to get up at 5.45 (on a Sunday 🙃) I plonked him in front of Hey Duggee and dyed my hair in the bathroom. Not completely disastrous either - DH didn't even notice (little change there though). My pre-children self would never have done that in a million years!!

Exactly @Betty. Time is definitely an issue.
There are 24 useable hours in everyday. A midnight hairdresser would be just perfect

Or one that can come to my office when I am bored out of my mind...

There is a hair blow dry service called Blow LTD (really) in London who come to your house. £45 but there is normally £40 off codes floating about.

I use Flo. When I put in positive OPK, it put ovulation in as the following day. Tbh I am having trouble with all the apps. Can't seem to change luteal phase in Glow and it will insist I have a 14 day LP which I never do so then it overwrites ov day. They all seem to have their little annoyances.

A friend of mine in my village cuts my hair at home, she does the boys too. I need to book her in for after next pay day. Just had a look at Blow and they charge from £69 for cut and blow dry which is too much for me. I just need a trim really as my hair is all one length it's pretty easy.

I emailed Flo, lets see what they say! The only apps I really like (and work) are FF and Ovusense. I always look at Ovusense first though as it predicts my ovulation before FF. I don't know why I bother with Flo, I think it is habit!
What's Glow like? Does it take a few cycles to recognise a pattern?

I thought Glow was great to begin with but actually now it keeps changing my ov date to fit in with its own idea of how long my follicular and luteal phases are, rather than the actual OPK date, it's not much use any more.

Ah Flo is the bane of my life. Good for you Frazzle for emailing them. I don't even know why I bother using it either, I much prefer Ovia (I think it's just habit and this irrational belief that yet another app will increase my chances of having a baby, just by being there on my phone

Let us know what they come back with!

@Twittle I used to keep a diary at uni too, and when I went travelling. I wish I still had the time for it. I think a list of 5 things everyday will be easy enough to conquer, even if I just keep it in my notes on my phone.

@Frazzle, I tried to keep a pregnancy journal, but literally kept it up for 2 days.... so rubbish!!!

@pegase - that's a brilliant second test - yay! I just hope it is all OK.......that's two now on the thread :-) One by one we will all get there.

Loving the positivity @frazzle. I used to use Ovia but grew tired of it. It was always giving me information that I might be pregnant and it messed with my head too much. I like FF as it's simple and usually accurate.

I've currently got ulcers on my tongue which is a sign I am coming down with a cold. Which I don't have time for at all.

I am still on the look out for a new career and I was looking into cabin crew yesterday (!). My DH pointed out that it wouldn't be very helpful if I am trying to get pregnant as it's time specific. Which was great as he never brings it up himself and it's proof to me that he does want it as much as me even though he never really says so........plus I am somewhat scared of flying and it would be a massive pay cut. So all in all, not the career change I am looking for!!!

@ratherbe - I used to struggle with insomnia and when I did I used to write down all the great things in my life at the end of each day so I would feel positive before getting into bed. I think it helped me to conquer not being able to sleep.

@Pegase wow what a great result!!!!

Everyone else.... sorry I'm getting a bit lost... I don't know what flo or ovia is... I'm not sure who's got a cold, but that sucks!!
Frazzle - it's normal to feel down it's shit!!

But look ... 2 bfp on here already!! It's going to happen for us all!!

I had blood test back- hcg now 1.... couldn't be 0 could it?? No, had to be 1! Bastard!! AF seems to have stopped - 2 heavy days, 1 medium, 1 light.... temp was waaaaaaay low this morning (36.1).

@TwittleBee I'm sorry I'm lost re woodland I've obvs missed a message..... but what ever it is don't strees!! (This is easy for me to say today after caning 2 diazepam this morning when had to be part of a meeting with the evil boss- so being spaced out in it was the way forward!! Lol) x

Hcg of 0-4 is normal for when you aren't pregnant I think @tigsyboo ?

@edidxb you are in SLT right? Could you do consultancy of some kind?

I think I have missed the woodland message too? I will try and go back later if I can....

Tigsy, you make me laugh!

God I’m shattered.

@edidxb I don’t think you should be cabin crew x

Flo are idiots

and I've just realised that's got my name on. Oh well, I've nothing to hide haha

@Frazzle I have no clue about Ovia, ovusense, fertility friend or any of them.... just have sex when you get a positive opk and how can you go wrong?

@Frazzle I think we all know your name anyway 😘