The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

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Here it is! Our lucky one 🤞

@Pegase, I'm with @Twittle on this one. Test again tomorrow xx

Well I think I need to give up on today.

Not only did I have a fake ovulation yesterday ( and had to endure that evil death breath on the train (brush your teeth people!). I put on a pair of jeans this morning that has been sitting around waiting to be sewn up for months and I actually got productive and fixed them yesterday. As soon as I put them on, they split again. Then I get to London Bridge nd while trying to put my ear bud things in and having my hair get in my eyes I proceeded to poke myself in the eye, then I get to the office and discovered my coffee in my bag had leaked everywhere.

It's only 8:30am and I'm done for today.
All I need now is a fucking preg announcement on my FB newsfeed which I am sure will happen anytime now.

I want to cry

Okay, over to you after my whinging

@Betty I did test again yesterday early eve and the line was fainter so I think it was just a PCOS wind up. Weird about your BBTs, would it be worth trying something like Ovusense that measures your core temp instead? How are you feeling this morning?

@Kinsters I feel like your chart is doing the same as mine with random high temp to make you think you've ov'd then low temp. What's going on!? It's funny you say about having FF dairy to reduce the risks of infertility. I am actively avoiding diary (except butter as margarine/spreads are worse) because it screws up fertility with regards to PCOS. In fact my cycles have improved since giving up milk/yogurt which I was having a lot of before.

@tigsy I'm really confused as to why you and DH need to spend any time with that bunch of witches? Aren't they his ex wife's friends? I may have missed something blatantly obvious!

@edidxb I don't envy you with the inspection. I spent a few years as a childminder while mine were really little and Ofsted inspections were one of the most stressful things I'd ever experienced. Ofsted were the main reason I gave up something I actually really loved. I hope it all goes well.

@Twittle I'll have a look at that thread of yours. As if you need further stress...

Tentative congratulations @Pegase... I think your bleed sounds like implantation too. The line also looks very strong for a CP. How many DPO are you? Keep testing. My fingers and toes are crossed for you. How are you feeling in yourself?

Oh @frazzle where to start... death breath, that's vile and I feel sorry for whoever has to sit in an office with that person today vom hopefully that's ALL the bad stuff out of the way for at least the rest of this week and your Monday will hugely improve from here!

@Twittle glad your mum has been a saint, that's really kind of her. I'll have a look at your thread later!

Logged onto work this morning to find that my colleague was sacked on Friday for gross misconduct. He'd basically committed fraud and they need to get police involved to take statements from us.... ffs.

As a positive, had ovulation cramps last night and flashing smiley again this morning I know from the first cycle and a cycle before the mc that dtd when we get a fixed smiley is too late so keeping fx'd that this will be enough.

rather oh FX! The TWW begins!

Frazzle oh my! what a truly shit start to the week! so bloody shit. Hope it turns around!!!

Can anyone help with my chart on the previous page? I was showing all the signs for ovulation, how can my temp have dropped? Can it really have been all lies from my stupid body?

Fucking pregnant twat is in today, just to put some dog shit icing on my shit cake. If she starts banging on about her kid again I will walk out.

Wow rather that is mad about your work.

I am 12DPO. Wish my body knew how to do pregnancy properly ie without bleeding. Even in my successful pregnancy I bled until 14 weeks!!! Then last time same thing happened but ended in mc. No sense to it all.

@frazzle - thank you. I have my first interview this afternoon so taking a head break on here! I had a look at your chart and it could be a pre ovulation dip. Often it is the case that your temp dips before ovulation so I would say it should go up properly tomorrow and yesterday was just a blip. It does take me 3 days after a positive OPK before my temp goes up. If you still have the watery cm you probably ovulated yet. My guess is that it will happen today - which is still great timing.

@pegase - yay! That sounds exciting.......what kind of pregnancy test is that? It is a CB digital monitor one? Did it say pregnant on the screen?

I think you need to test again....

This is why temping can be shit Frazzle as that temp this morning could be an anomaly or it could be a post ov dip (I often get them) but you just wont know what is happening until a few more temps have been recorded

Yes it was on the fertility monitor thing so said pregnant. As I was wiping away blood on the loo. Sorry TMI but shows how ridiculous this is.

Also sorry you are having a bad day Frazzle. Is it possible the thermometer was just wrong today? As someone was saying about how it can come up with different readings so easily? All other signs seem really positive...

Your woodland thread Twittle! That's nuts! Hope you manage to sort them out.

Frazzle yeah my chart has been a bit impenetrable as well with signs not lining up and random temps. Pre MC it was always pretty clear so it's annoying. I guess all we can do is wait.

Pegase tentative congratulations!

edidxb good luck with the interview!

@Pegase I wish I knew what was going on for you. All this is such a rough ride, why do others get it so easily?

I don't know about the Ovusense thingie being wrong. I've never known them to be wrong. I'm on an Ovusense users group on FB and no one has ever said anything about a faulty device. I might ask on that group actually. See what they think. I'm hoping @edidxb and @Twittle is right about a pre/post-ov dip
I feel like DP and I should BD every night from now on just in case I am gearing up still. But I get so anxious hoping DP will be 'in the mood'.

Strong BFP with FRER (tested again as per @edidxb 's instructions! )

Need to try to just focus on being pregnant today even though I might not be tomorrow as it were. Mc sort of sucks the joy out of the whole thing.

Oh yes @TwittleBee where is your woodland? I feel like the July 19ers should come and occupy it with you. CFs your neighbours !

Good luck @edidxb fingers crossed it goes well for you.

@TwittleBee that woodland thread, Jesus... you've had some really good advice, definitely get a solicitor involved.

@frazzle I have no idea at all re your chart, I guess it could be an anomaly, try not to stress or read into it too much (easier said than done I know)

Oh @pegase that sounds really horrific. Is it enough to fill up a pad?

@pegase crossposted sorry... wow what a line for 12dpo!!!! Huge huge congratulations, that looks very positive to me!

That's so positive Pegase! I guess you just have to take it a day at a time. Is it any comfort that you had bleeding in your last pregnancy so know it doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem? I said upthread my mum had bleeding all the way through her third pregnancy and my sister was fine.

@Kinsters you would think so but that's why I wasn't too worried last time when I started bleeding and yet that did end up in mc. So now I don't know what to think. Thanks for the support everyone anyway. Am off work sick today with evil cold/flu so have all day to stress about this!

@pegase that's an awesome positive! If it's any consolation, I had some bleeding at the beginning of my pregnancy with DS - enough for me to think AF had started, and then it stopped again and so I tested for a bfp. Must've been an implantation bleed, but more blood than I would have thought. And another time I had a sub chorionic bleed which just indicated that the embryo had shifted a bit somewhere around implantation which caused a small bleed when it detached/re attached from the uterine lining. Either way nothing to be concerned about so massive fx it's something like that for you x

That is a deffo positive @Pegase! I want to say congrats but I tend to wait now until baby is here these days. But that is super fantastic news for you for today and I hope I get to say a proper congrats to you xx

Thank you @rather I am just so desperate to be pregnant again, like all of us. And I was so hopeful for yesterday and I am so anxious that my stupid PCOS will fuck things up for me which I really don't need at the grand age of 39. I just feel like I don't have time for my body to be fucking things up for me.
I'm just an absolute misery today. I can't seem to get out of this since my AF arrived last cycle.

Yeah I had a haematoma with my first which meant I was bouncing back and forth to EPU for the first trimester. Sometimes it was quite a scary amount of bright red blood. I'm going to give it at least a couple of weeks till booking in. Not least so I don't have to call to cancel the appts it it ends badly again.

I've given up on BBT for now. Can't trust either of my thermometers but in any case I don't get undisturbed rest at night so there's probably no point. This morning DS had me up at 6 with a bad dream and there wasn't time to temp so I have skipped a day in any case. Truth is, my cycle used to be regular so I'll just try and DTD every other day through the middle of my cycle and use OPKs. None of it is a perfect science and even if we do it at exactly the right time, as we all know the chances are it won't stick anyway (25% or something isn't it?)

Oh wow that’s an amazingly strong line for 12dpo @Pegase! Hopefully the bleeding will stop soon and all will be fine. xxx

@Frazzle I get it, I really do. Many people have babies well into their 40's. You are not alone. You've beat PCOS to have your first two PLUS the 3 ones who didn't make it... you WILL have another.
As Betty said, perhaps you didn't get a good sleep, perhaps your thermometer is on the blink... it could be anything. Don't get down on one temperature. If anything, view it as you've had the EWCM, you've had the +ive OPKs, you've had the right temps in the lead ups... everything is pointing at this being an anomaly.

@Betty I'm getting annoyed with temping too - I snoozed my alarm this morning and forgot to temp so no point doing it again. Never mind.....!

I know @rather and thank you.
I think I'm just really struggling today and can't seem to break this since AF arrived. I'm so tired of waiting after three years of constantly being let down by my body.
I need to get a grip I think, take a deep breath and keep soldiering on.
I've done three years, I can do another cycle FFS.
I'm also pissed off as I would have set my alarm half an hour earlier and done a DVD workout as I'm due to do one today but didn't in case leaping around the living room messed up with sperm - egg meeting!

@Frazzle, I agree with Rather, all the signs are there for ovulation yesterday, or possibly today. I would ignore the temperature, I’m sure a number of things can affect it.

I am shattered today, I could hardly drag myself out of bed this morning. I’m not sure what has made me feel like this 😞