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ttc after MC July 2007 - anybody out there?

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popsy76 · 27/06/2007 11:11

Hi ladies, our old thread is full and now I can't find anyone
I have posted here and on bereavement thread with same title - come join me if you find this

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flosspot · 07/08/2007 10:25

Hey all

congrats missnatalie/harveysaunt.Stay as long as you need. Glad to hear all going well.

nh101- 62 days not normal, but if it's any comfort have had three cycles like that, one lasting 122 days!

Everyone else- can this weather get any better? BDing like it's going out of fashion....ew super early for me (usually 40 day cycle) so going at it with vigour. Suppose mc could have changed cycles? Ordoubling Clomid dosage....

Fingers crossed

ronshar · 07/08/2007 10:49

Flosspot 31st good for me.
Jess Im so sorry I hope you havent had to have tuges etc removed. Do be careful and get lots of rest.
I dont want to say I told you so but I knew it was you Natalie. Your xx gave you away. Congratulations on getting past that 12 week scan. It is terrifying isnt it! (I am Miss Marple you know)
Good news for all you normal test girls. I dont think I am brave enough to go through test. I am going to stick my head in the sand a and think that I have had 2 healthy beautiful girls and I can do it again.

ronshar · 07/08/2007 10:56

Sorry TUGES what on earth are they? I meant tubes

nh101 · 07/08/2007 11:24

So so sorry Jess, I posted on your other thread and was so sad to hear your news. Look after yourself.

Popsy - I was a bit disappointed that everything has come back "normal" - kind of wanted something to be wrong so they can fix. Got to keep remembering that I can get PG and that is the most important thing!

Kens/Popsy - what do you think the pains 10 days before AF mean? I thought it was my womb filling up with tissue etc after OV. I have had no cramps at all this month so think maybe haven't even OV'd yet (CD63 - it is just getting boring now!)

I also feel much better at mo - best friend told me she is PG and I am happy for her. Also I saw my PG hairdresser friend Friday and then my PG SIL Saturday. I got myself all wound up about seeing them but it wasn;t so bad and now I feel a whole lot better about everything!

Wheelybug - which tests did you have? Know what you mean about hoping you weren't OV'ing and then taking a pill, I feel same. But you must be OV'ing or wouldn't have got PG in first place?

I have missed the womb warming thing - what is that?

Flosspot - 122 days??? And then you weren't even PG? I can't handle that!!!

EllieG · 07/08/2007 11:26

I get cramps way before AF too nh and was convinced PG last month (wasn't). Saying that, AF due friday and no cramps yet, so maybe system is returning to normal, as my last cycle was ordinary 28 days rather that the weirdly short ones I was having after MC. Think your body takes more of a battering than you realise and is just a bit crap for a few months. And doesn't help that we are all focussing on every single twinge.

popsy76 · 07/08/2007 11:57

hey weirdsymptonpals does sound like we are at least slightly returning ti normal eh? nh even more reason for you to go see the doc?I have no idea what the pains were but I actually had them all the way through being PG too - think have a sensitive womb .
Was wondering what has changed for me recently to make me feel so much better

  1. symptoms are diminishing so am less liley to go as mad as a snake from CD 15 to whenever Af decides to show
  2. Af coming earlier each month so may eventually get back to "normal"
  3. started exercising again - got really fat and hated myself but was all linked in with oh well will be PG again soon so no point in dieting...
  4. stopped drinking - you know me ladies - this is a BIGGIE - 9 days and counting - so proud of myself - so wide awake and raring to go ha ha 5)being PG is getting to be a distant memory - not being PG feels normal now
  5. Time - yup that old chestnut (and all the fab support from you guys )

ronshar you are more jessica whatshername from murder she wrote i think - or would you prefer cagney or lacy??

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EllieG · 07/08/2007 12:17

AF is on it's way I fear, as the cramps have started up today. Not too down about it though, think am getting my head round it just taking a while and maybe learning to relax. I know I can get PG cos I did, so hopefully when it's the right time it will come

nh101 · 07/08/2007 12:37

Good on you, Ellie. I have been getting a few twinges as well this morning so maybe AF is coming after all! Again, I don't feel too bad and I relate to many things you are saying Popsy!

(I'm not giving up drinking though!)

nh101 · 07/08/2007 12:40

Popsy - there is a Popsy75 lurking about on here. It's mental!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1366&threadid=367132&stamp=070807100828

popsy76 · 07/08/2007 12:48

oooh poppy nearly name stealer!!!!
you'll always know its me though cos I am MAAS whatever I say and always thinking/talking about booze even when sworn off it
Like your non ttc thread - best way isn't it - means you can get sane again - takes ages to get to the point of being okay about not consiously ttc
friend said - just stop ttc and i realised she didn't have a clue - she didn't even know there were days you have to BD ha ha ooohh to be so innocent again!
fingers crossed for AF for you nh i know sounds weird but these days an AF is quite reassuring for me - at least is something?
going to phone docs and see if bloods in...scan date came thru last night yikes!

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nh101 · 07/08/2007 17:02

Yes I am feeling sane again now. Happy for my PG friends (and even people who are not friends), not thinking about it all the time, being happy in my life as it is.

I realised that the more I thought about how miserable I am, the more miserable I was.

I am even thinking "must make the most of being able to work full-time cos won't be able to do that soon"

Maybe I am still insane after all

Wheelybug · 07/08/2007 17:27

Hello All !

I too got confused by Poppy75 - I thought - blimey that was a quick decision Popsy had made and not told us about on here....

NH - the first lot of tests I had a few months ago were Day 2-5 test, Day 21 and an u/s. Then I had day 21 repeated (to check I wasn't intermittently ovulating) and also a blood test for Coeliac disease as a friend (who is a GP) suggested it as apparently you can have it without showing the normal symptoms but it is more prevalent in shortarses (I have 5 foot nothing) and they can have tiny babies (dd was 4lb 9oz), more m/cs and struggle to conceive. Anyway am pleased that one was ok cos I love bread and pasta .

So, next step is to get DH's swimmers checked out although am suspecting these to be ok as we have conceived twice easily although part of me wonders if it is DH's stressful job (which I think it might be anyway, even if its not directly effecting his swimmers).

We go on hols in 2 and a bit weeks for a real relax and then I intend to start trying to combat this with alternative ideas because I really hate the idea of having to go down conventional medicine routes (mainly because I am a coward) so had a skim of the Zita West book which is very interesting if you haven't read it - does actually cover womb warming but also lots about diet and acupuncture. So wish me luck in trying to persuade caniverous DH to try a more veggie diet.........and stopping drinking...... I think this could be a real test of our marriage

ladylush · 07/08/2007 18:25

After quite a good week last week I am feeling a bit down this week. Partly due to stressful couple of days at work but also I keep getting intrusive thoughts of getting pregnant again only to lose it. The other night ds woke 3 times and on one occasion my breasts felt really heavy so I looked in the mirror and they were veiny and lumpy. I thought to myself no surely I can't be already............but I think I was hallucinating

popsy76 · 08/08/2007 08:56

Morning ladies
wheely sounds like they are at least taking you seriously eh? Though I can't imagine trying to get Mr Popsy to stay of the booze and meat full time - I read soemthing in an NHS doc about toxic sperm so it is our new house joke - anything to try to see the funny side and
All these things I read about on here - am going to turn up to the docs with a list of tests he needs to do ...thyroid, coeliac(actually he is used to that already - hypochondriac central ). I am also short and my mum is titchy and I was only 2lbs YIKES oh well something to obsess over for a while at least

I have a question... what do you think about swimming? I love it and go every other day - thing is - i was thinking chlorinated water wouldn't be good for the old swimmwers - how long does it take for them to get to a "safe" place? Anyone know - will look it up on web but am bound to come away with another 4 or 5 fatal conditions . I don't want to give up cos is so relaxing and good for me but wondering if I am just washing them all away (popsy blushing as she types emoticon cos she feels really thick)?

nh sounds like you have taken a turn for the better... don't worry I still have secret thoughts about getting exotic holidays in and what we'll do at Chrsitmas but shhh that is just between us...

ladylush don't beat yourself up - we've all been at that stage - you just want it all now - you feel great for a few days but than a small thing (like a dream) can set you back fifty paces grrrr so unfair! I have had quite a few dreams aboout giving birth to Downs or unformed babies - very distressing but also must be brain trying to work through what happened?

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Wheelybug · 08/08/2007 09:05

Sorry you're feeling down Ladylush - please look after yourself and give yourself time...

Popsy - have a look at this thread which I remember reading, although not sure its conclusive www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1366&threadid=365462#7453572. I did broach (sp?) the subject of change in diet last night and both of us having acupuncture and he did look at me as if I was mad but I then pointed out that, if his sperm test comes back ok, then I don't think there's anything properly wrong given our history and therefore I don't really want to have to have intrusive tests under GA if we might be able to combat it by diet/alternative methods. That shut him up . Anyway, said we won't start till after hols except I woke up in the night thisty after wine last night and thought - hmmm this can't be doing me much good perhaps I'll stop sooner.

Anyway, waffle over. 2 lbs Popsy - were you v. early ?

flosspot · 08/08/2007 09:37

Morning all- nothing constructive to add- just wanted to say hello.

Ladylush- thinking of you.Hope you feel better.

Popsy- 31st work for you for cakefest?

ANyone else signing up?

EllieG · 08/08/2007 09:40

Mornin' to you too. I haven't got anything to say either. Am bored and hungry today though. Think AF due (boo).

Wheelybug · 08/08/2007 09:41

Hello Floss/Ellie !

Would love to come to cakefest but am hols for 31st and don't think an after work time would work for me with dd so best I sit it out (but I want a crumb by crumb account afterwards)

popsy76 · 08/08/2007 10:43

Hi Ladies - it is in the diary - what time?
I am going there next Tuesday (being ottolenghi virgin am bound to embarrass myself by launching face first into nearest cream pie) so will report back YUM!!!!!!!!!
right I'm off to read about diet and the evils of booze....hmmm okay maybe just one more frothy latte and muffin before i do...

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popsy76 · 08/08/2007 10:47

wheely so cool - answered all of my swimming questions thanks hon - must keep an eye on other threads eh?

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ronshar · 08/08/2007 10:57

Wow we are all very positive today, it must be the sunshine after all that rain!
I can only do a day meet for cake fest as live down south & trains, kids etc.
Ellie I think I prefer the blond one was that Cagney or Lacey?? Or Dangermouse now he was really cool! If short. Or Batfink.
Ok thats enough.

ronshar · 08/08/2007 10:58

Ooopps I meant Popsy, not Ellie as Ellie probably hasnt a clue what I am waffling on about!

popsy76 · 08/08/2007 11:09

BATFINK Brilliant!
lest meet afternoon then - I can skive off work hooray

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popsy76 · 08/08/2007 11:14

also - we can start then and other people can get there when they can (others won't be able to skive as easily )... uh oh can envisage protracted binge for pops....

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ronshar · 08/08/2007 11:30

I can see a problem with that idea.
What happens if we eat all the cake and there is no cake left when the other girls turn up? I will have just returned from MILS for my hols, I will need the cake.
I dont have wings of steel though, just a belly of flab!

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