ttc after MC July 2007 - anybody out there?

[popsy76]

Hi ladies, our old thread is full and now I can't find anyone
I have posted here and on bereavement thread with same title - come join me if you find this

fingers cross PAM - what is your fav - mine is probably a choc eclair (in winter) or a hum bug
kensgirl get us - tingly boob buddies ...
Off to town then to see Prince
PUUURPLEE RAAIN PUURHURPLE RAYYHAYN

Popsy
have a great time!

Hello, just wanted to pop in and say hi. We've had 2 mcs and I had a scan yesterday which showed a missed mc (baby only died within the last day or two) so I'm now waiting to see whether it starts naturally or whether I need ERPC. But once that's done, we'll start trying again (don't have much time to play with as my eggs are old and wizened). SoO I hope I'll be spending some time here getting to know you all though obviously I hope even more that very soon we won't any of us be here because we'll be on the happily pregnant threads.

So sorry to see you rachel. Thinking of you, as with everyone else, no doubt.

HAppy to offer myself up as organiser for cakefest popsy, if no-one else wants the job....although as venue has been chosen there's one less thing to sort out!

Hi Rachel. Sorry to hear your news, I hope you find lots of support here. I had an ERPC after it didnt happen naturally, hope you are OK.

Hi all,

returned to work today and have managed to keep stress levels down until now... having sat at my desk all morning and sat here eating my lunch, I have only just noticed my desk is covered in mouse poo!! I followed the trail and found an almond I must have dropped with little teeth marks around the edge! yuk!!

Pipsqueake and rachel- so sorry to hear your news and what you are going through. Feel free to post anything here and don't worry about bringing the thread down, we all have our ups and downs and I have found this thread to be so helpful- everyone is very kind and its so useful to hear from other people that have a similar experience.

jess- fingers crossed for tomorrow. Really hope all is well.

Wheely- hello hon! sorry to have missed you last night. It'll be a real shame if you can't make the cake fest. How is the potty training going- is it any earier with girls? I remember my nephew had no interest and just aimed at the carpet without warning!

Flossy- yeah- pleased you took over organising the cakefest! I am impressed. Also hd to laugh at your DH's lecture on safety- mine gave me a lecture on 'internet safety'! he told me that 'people in chatrooms might not be who they seem' I somehow doubt any predatory man would pretend they had a mc and discuss such matters as cervical mucus!! It seems from all the posts that MN and its helpfulness has passed most men by. Whenever I'm on MN at home, DH always smirks and pats my head as though I'm doing something odd!

popsy- glad the reflexology made you chilled- although I'm sure the prurple midget will get your blood pressure up! Do give us the low down on his performance!

Littlesquirt- did laugh at the thought of 'mr littlesquirt'- I doubt that would go down very well!

Kensgirl- good to hear from you- perhaps we could set up a webcam or something so we can see you sitting in Asda with your dried out cake! It's such a shame that you're not closer, but having said that I think Manchester is great, so its probably not much of a shame you live there!

picknmix- hello! It is a sorry state of affairs when knicker checking takes over isn't it? This time last year I was unaware of such a pastime!

A webcam to torment me and my donut then, hmmm? I think not, as I will be drooling all over it while watching you all tuck in to delicious Delia type things......and i thought you were friends !

kensgirl- but you could watch in glee as our girths expand!

wheely - thank you for the lovely offer. I will have a long think about it for the minute - whilst i'm determined to ttc again assap I am also worried that it's for the wrong reasons - nnothing can replace this baby i've jsut lost but I deseratly want another one again. (doesn't help SIL has just had her PG confirmed on monday - 11th april ) but still will ahve to deal with that when the time comes.

lol@ your DH's mine gives up! lol. he's changin our broadband providers to give me a laptop (free wiht the offer) so I can be on here till my hearts content! lol. - althou I do know he comes on and reads posts when he's worried bout me.

torres - urgghhh mouse poop.

rach - (((hugs))) we can do this together honney. think we were roughly the same into our pg's. so we'll do it togehter.

our of intrest how long have you girls been ttc again since your m/c's?

So sorry to hear about your 3rd m/c pipsqueeke Sorry to hear of your m/c too Rachel

Popsy - glad you are feeling chilled following your reflexology. I've got my 3rd session tonight and it's the thing I've been focusing on all day as work was hell.

Your dh's have been amusing Mine says he is a mumsnet widower and he hassles me when I am on the PC - to get attention I think! He thinks the whole concept is bizarre but I'm sure he reads it when he's at work Just like men reading womens mags.

To answer your question pipsqueeke, I've had 3 m/c (most recent ended in an ERPC 3 weeks ago when I was 12 weeks pg). After the first one (suspected ep) I waited almost a year before trying again. After the second I waited for one cycle before ttc and conceived 2 months after. After the 3rd I was advised to wait for 2 normal periods before ttc again (mostly for my own health so I was told) but 3 weeks on and I am not using contraception. I am taking aspirin though and folic acid.

Pip - Take your time, just let me know if you want it.

FWIW I don't think there is anything wrong with trying again straightaway but, from my experience I had trouble with the fact that, having conceived easily twice, it wouldn't take long so didn't really grieve for the baby I lost as I thought I'd be able to 'replace' it (I don't mean that as callous as it sounds) easily. For some reason it hasn't happened as easily this time round, which I expect is from the stress.

We waited until first period to start ttc (although didn't use protection beforehand but didn't really do it much either) so I think I have now had 11 cycles of ttc (am in my tenth and actually 1 of them our timing was out as DH was working all hours so we're probably in the middle of cycle 10 which sounds better.). However, although thats quite depressing to read I think (and apologies if this is wrong) I have been the longest since a single m/c so whilst thats not great for me, means people come in and out quite a lot.

Am interested to read about reflexology - I was inteding acupunture in September when dd starts preschool but would prefer reflexology (but I have had 2 non-shifting verrucas so don't want to present those to the reflexologist. One has just gone of its own accord so maybe the other will follow suit and then I won't have to do the needles ).

not at all wheely - ont he one hand i'm thinking I have to ahve a baby I really want a baby I want my baby back again. but ont he other thinking I can't replace this baby. tbh I think also i'm not allowing myself to grieve for this baby as much as I did the one pre DS - prob as you say I fell for him easiely and I guess if I think about something else i'm not thinking about the real issue and problem. but everything is still v raw and i'm still up and down. hope you do have some luck thou . DH is telling his parents today which will prob make everything more real for him.

aside from the folic acid is there anything else I can take? again with DS I wasn't having anything as we were not actually trying for him - decided to ahve a break for that cycle and start again after but obv he was ment to be, and after the 1st m/c I had the injection as I was the young silly 16 year old who made a mistake.

Hi everyone.
I can't make the 17th Aug cakefest either and i was looking forward to it as a break from my new "need to lose weight and eat healthily while i'm deffo not pregnant, so am craving cake" phase.

Af was a few days later than i expected and i had a massive (irrational) panic that I hadn't in fact miscarried, seeing as i hadn't had a scan to prove i had . Thank god it came though cos i was on hols consuming wine and pate everynight.

at the moment it is like I am hearing of a new rl pregnancy or birth (of babies i didn't even know had been conceived) every couple of days. How cna i know so many pregnany ladies????

In theory we're getting bakc to ttc this month but DH is away at the crucial point, then straight afterwards we'll be at my parents, so we'll have to see how bding at my parents' works .

Welcome (although i wish it wasn't, if you see what i mean) to the new ladies. and sorry not to have caught up properly to the rest of you.

While dh is away dd and i will be at my parents (so i'll be there 2 weeks in total - omg how on earth am i going to cope?) and dd's room is going to be redecorated so i have spent a bit of time this afternoon starting to empty her room - onto the 6th crate of books, and still more to come off the shelves!!!!!!

Found all her old baby grobags And not sure where on earth to put all the baby bedding i had buried in her cupbaord.....

anyway i'm being called to read a story.

If you can't do 17th August for cakefest, when can you do littlebit ronsar- would be nice to get as many as possible....

more or less anytime after that. That is the day we get back from my parents. I am not sure if i'd be with or without dd (ideally without as i can't face a long trip over, then have to deal with her AND meet people then a long trip back), as that would depend on the day and whether dh could oblige with child care.

Would love to make it if possible.

MOndays are my absolute best day it's dh's day off so there is barely any question of being busy, but i'm sure i could twist his arm or something.....

Hello pipsqueake and Rachel - sorry you've had to join us .

To answer your question pipsqueake, I had a mmc in February (first pregnancy) for which I was given drugs in hospital to induce a mc (no ERPC). I started trying again straight away and didn't seem to be getting anywhere. But on Sunday I got an unexpected strong BFP, I was amazed because I had a fairly normal AF 12 days previously (bright red blood, cramping etc). According to my GP I must be almost 6 weeks pregnant, but they sent me for a scan and there was nothing there. So now I'm being treated for a suspected ectopic pregnancy. It's possible that I'm just a bit earlier on than I thought (maybe I OV'd late) and HCG levels do suggest that. But I'm sure I didn't OV that late because 3.5 weeks ago I remember clearly developing my usual post-OV sore boobs. So I think the earliest I could be is 5.5 weeks so I think that the fact there's still nothing on the scan at this stage and that I had an episode of quite significant bleeding 2 weeks ago is not looking at all good. I'm having my HCG measured again today. I'm actually feeling less sick so I think it may actually be coming down.

Anyway, I'm waffling now, but I'm so stressed about this. I would feel ok if this pregnancy has just not got started properly and I'm about to m/c. But I'm quite scared of it being ectopic.

Waffle away Jess, that's what we are here for.

So sorry you are going through all of this, life seems so unfair sometimes doesn't it? It seems crazy to wish for a MC but it is a much better prospect than an EP so fingers crossed that's what it is, or even better, fingers crossed you are not as far along as you thought.

big hugs to you, let us know what happens xxx

Wheely - I have a verruca but I just put a plaster over it and it's fine to do that. I would recommend it - so relaxing.

Jess - I had a suspected ectopic 18 months ago and like you there was no trace of anything as the uterus was empty. Shortly after scan at 7 weeks my HCG levels started to fall and I m/c suddenly a week or so after. It's strange because even though the uterus was empty, that m/c was the most complete in that the bleeding was over and done with in a few days. I really hope that the pg is viable, but if not I hope things happen naturally for you. I can understand how stressed you must be right now

Morning ladies or should I say afternoon - no wishful thinking - why am I so starving then?

Hi birthday friend Jess so sorry for you - really hope everything turns out okay - we are here for you whatever the outcome (I read ladylush post and thought how fab it is that you can get advice like that on here!). p.s. i forgot to say - LOVED your long hot summer story - mine is same except i "popped" out in June - 2 months early - due to the extreme heat I am sure

Prince was fab - he was at the 02 venue (old dome) - really recommend it! Was crooning along to the songs - god he is in good shape for a relativley old man (lets just say he has aged better than I have!)

wheely I also have old veruccas - she said no black dots so fine but if they were we could have put a plaster on them! I MC in March so 5 months down the line (but only 3 AFs). Am sure this reflexology and 2 months of non-student zen-ness is going to be great for me though! (possibly staying off the booze and exercising might be helping too but I'm not convinced )

I am a firm believer that the more effort you put into getting your head sorted - the quicker your body will sort itself out - off to the hozzy today for bloods yipeee

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Oh Popsy, good to hear that Prince was in fine form. We're going to see him in Sept, so I hope he doesn't peak too early...

where/when's the cke fest? sounds intreguing.

jess how did you go today honney? hoping you have some good news. it's odd to be wishing fo a m/c out of the two options.

pop that makes sence yes.

had a long talk with DH last night - he's inclinded to wait a cycle but i'm less so. have passed the last today so hopefully now it will be a case of bleeding and then all being well the all clear at he scan - sounds hard and harsh I know and i'm surprised at how ok I feel about the last bit coming away - after passing teh sac on tuesday I didn't think i'd manage any more days but DS has been a real gem these last two days making me laugh and really being a charecter - or maybe he alwasy was and before I never took the time to notice? either way. hopefully we can all move on and fingers crossed we won't take to long to get pg again. am booking in witht he dr's when she's back on the 20th for a thyroid check to make sure all is in order with that. PIL also finally know now - MIL was v supprotivve - v upset we'd not told her about my prev m/c's as she's had a few and also a still birth, but a the time we wanted it kept between us, this time by telling people I think it has and is helping somewhat to tlak things out.

anyhow enough of my rambalings.

Hi all

Hope today went ok Jess. Thinking of you. Also still thinking of you Pip (I know dd helped me enormously when I was m/c - she was so good and undemanding as if she knew - or it might have been the amount of CBeebies she was allowed to watch).

Interesting news about the verrucas - thanks girls. My second concern about reflexology is that my feet are disgusting - I really need to have a pedicure but again have put this off because of verucca. Perhaps I could just do a home one. Am excited about prospect of not having needles though !!

So, I thought I was taking new pregnancy news much better these days but today I found out a very good friend is expecting and her dd is a year younger than mine and they will have a reasonable age gap. Its knocked me a bit (esp. as spent the day with my 3 oldest friends of which she was one, and of the other two one has just had twins and the other is expecting number 2 in a couple of months) - Sigh, anyway, onwards and upwards...

Popsy - did you find out what your tests were for - these are the day 12 ones aren't they ?? Just want to make sure I'm not missing out on an opportunity to have a needle in my arm .

HCG has increased from 962 to 1680 so I'm not miscarrying, but could still be ectopic. I'm having another scan tomorrow. I'm so scared.

Jess I hope the increase is good news. Waiting is so difficult though isn't it.

Wheely - don't worry about your feet as I'm sure they see all sorts. Mind you, if you're really self-conscious you could go to a chiropodist and get the veruccas zapped (think they can freeze them off), get any hard skin etc removed, float out of there and then book your reflexology appt. Ooh I do love having my feet pampered