The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

[Frazzlerock]

Hey @TinselBee, @Rose68, @BettySwoll0cks

Here is the thread I promised us.

Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh..

Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together.

(I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to)

I will look through our threads again and see if I can @mention anyone else who might like to join us

Okay so just for a fucking positive OPK? Now what!? Urgh!!!!! Guess I will assume that it was a failed ovulation attempt last time? Can't even DTD tonight as my dad is staying over

Tinsel Ah that's so annoying, and fertility friend had even given you solid crosshairs. I think the only thing you can do is wait a few days and see whether your temp goes any higher. How long is your luteal phase normally?

Our last day in the UK today. Its been so nice but I don't think I ever properly got over jet-lag. Not sure if it was the residual pregnancy hormones or I'm just getting older and feeling it more!

Morning all,

Ahhh @Kinsters what a beautiful photo!
I got my first negative test at CD27 I'm now on CD30

@edidxb I'm glad you got some good quality rest at last.

@Tinselbee It's so hard to tell isn't it! I also got a +opk the other day. Maybe, like you say, our ovaries are trying to release an egg but struggling due to left over hormones or something. Just keep BDing just in case, that is all you can do until your temps tell you what is going on for sure. Random question, I've seen the ring around a test before loads of times but I've no idea why, what's the reason? It's been driving me mad, haha!

I am totally confused about all of our charts and weird AFs TBH.
I am in the dark about mine too.

I'm on my 4th day of spotting. Literally 1 or 2 pinky wipes per day and nothing else. It's not usual for me either so I can only imagine it is to do with the MC.
I had a terrible back ache yesterday (continuing today) which I got at ovulation in my pregnancy cycle so I started to wonder if I might be ovulating given my two temp rises. But it fell again this morning, and not enough for an ov dip either.
My temps aren't giving anything away. I will post my FF one as you're all more familiar with FF

Now on flippin CD30. I wish something would happen so I can move onto the next cycle.

I am keeping my mind occupied with wedding stuff. We met up with my parents and my sister yesterday for lunch and showed off my ring . My family aren't ones for emotion but I did get a half attempt of a "very nice" which I know is a a big emotion for them, but DP was like "They didn't like the ring, they think its too small!". I had to explain that that was their way of being impressed

I think we have already chosen a wedding venue, a reception venue and a rough date! Thinking about Spring 2020, nice registry office for the ceremony and then a really nice pub/bar up the road. Though not sure what to do about feeding people.
I'm also doing a mental guest list, and desperately trying to keep it small as possible.
I feel like this is just what we need to keep our minds off the stress of TTC (a bit anyway!)

Today DS2 is ballboy for his favourite football team (Millwall ) this afternoon so the whole family are getting together to watch. I've also got SOOOOO much clearing up to do. I cannot wait to get our house back in order. My body too, I've put on 5lbs . I've not done any running since before I ovulated in my last preg cycle as I was too scared in case I was pregnant
I might do the same as I did before, do all my exercise before ovulation then stop and just do long gentle walks and yoga just in case I jig my egg about too much. I know that is mad but after 3 losses I don't want to risk a thing. Not that it helped last time

FF chart coming up....

So..... AF has virtually completely gone again and tried out my fertility monitor as it’s day 6.... and it said HIGH!!
Surely it can’t be high this early on?? Could it remnants of AF?? X

I've been putting as many symptoms in as possible like a good girl 😂

High!!

I also don’t understand what the ring means?

@Rachy sorry I don’t understand your fertility monitor... does it go higher than high, or does high mean peak fertility? It would seem very early for peak fertility... but maybe your body isn’t quite back to normal yet after what happened with AF this month?

@Frazzle I am also a runner off and on. I was training for my first half marathon when we started ttc. Because of that I didn’t do the half and in fact I stopped running the month we conceived. I had read that running is bad and walking is good. So I stopped running and started walking. I haven’t started running again yet, but I have had some problems as well, with my knee and my foot. I suspect my knee is better, but my foot has Morton’s neuroma (I think), I had a scan on it just before Xmas and I have the follow up appointment once the boys are back at school. I also had 2 black toe nails, which finally came off a couple of weeks ago. Lovely!

@rachyrach, I've no idea, but you'd better jump on DH!

@Rose68 I'm with you on the black toenails that fall off! I have done several half marathons over the years and lots of training which toenails do not like. My toenails look awful without nail polish on.
I was supposed to be doing the Tommys London Landmarks for Tommys but I gave my place up after we lost Popsy. I figured 'd be too scared to train even after a MC given we are TTC again. DP is doing it though.
I think you're right in holding off the training while TTC. It is one of many things I think about when I was pregnant with Emily. Did that cause me to MC... I just thought I was fine and thousands of women run when pregnant and have no problems but I can't help but wonder.
I've never heard of Morton's neuroma, but I also have knee problems. I'm sure running is bad for you but it's the only way I can keep my weight stable. As soon as I stop I balloon.

No there's low, high and peak
You are aiming for 2 peaks in a row.
I just presumed it would be low today.... I'll do him later, we aren't speaking at the min m! lol!
If it was speak I'd make up immediately but he deserves the silent treatment for a few more hours x

Oh dear Rachy Why's he in the dog house?

Just generally being a knob 😂
We only get 1 day (Saturday) every 2 weeks when they kids aren't here all day and we can do something. Often we go to have a dog walk and a coffee, or even just have a lazy day. Because of Xmas we haven't done this for over a month and today was 'our day'..... but he invited his brother and his family round tonight for a Chinese (without asking me) and I'm not a fan of them anyway - they are the sort who both sit there drinking while their kids run wild in your house, but they see that as down time for them! And now he's insisting we have to run round like morons cleaning up all the Xmas clutter because they are coming.
It's petty but it's pissed me off lol! I just wanted to have a day walking the pooches and having coffee and cake and sorting the house tomorrow while the kids are glued to the PS4 for a few hours!
He knows I'm perfectly fine with making tonight awkward by still not speaking to him and he will relent shortly because he hates an atmosphere in front of others!

I don't think that's petty, he should have asked you first!

Thanks frazzle
He didn't ask me because he knew I don't like them much.
I don't mind at someone else's house like the MIL because it's not my mess to clear up! The kids aren't well behaved and they torment the dogs and the cat (who are my fur babies!) and I'm just not in the mood for them all! Fuck it I'm going out! Lol xx

Just quickly popping by to say the ring helps to focus the camera!

Dtd tonight, but it was fairly disastrous, DH came out and started coming before getting back inside. He says just a little bit, but I don’t think it was just a little bit. I can’t sleep now, I’m stressing too much, everything seemed just right until disastrous sex happened 😞

Morning all,
I never knew what the ring was before either on the tests, so thank you @Frazzlerock for asking the question as I never would have! Thanks @Tinselbee for answering!
Oh @Rose68 that sounds like a difficult moment. There is so much pressure DTD and it is horrible when it goes wrong in the time frame when it could have so many consequences. We still have not done anything since last Sat but maybe this week.
I am convinced I am not about to ovulate. I have taken a couple of OPK strips this week but not every day as I don't want to waste them and they have all been negative. I haven't had any signs like the ewcm I usually get - in fact it is very creamy. So I either did last week and I am waiting for AF or I tried to ovulate (as I did have 2 days of EWCM) and failed and therefore I am gearing up to it again.
I did make the mistake of taking another pregnancy test yesterday even though I had taken one on THursday which was negative. I think I just really hoped I would be pregnant again but it was very much stark white........and then you just feel so disappointed. So I am going to try to resist taking any more tests again.
Like most of you, I am now just ready to move on - get AF, get it over and start on a normal track of cycles again. But after my last MMC it took 2 months for my cycles to come back again. ARGGGHHH.
@RachyRach83 - how was your evening in the end? Did you go out or stay in? How were the family?
@Frazzlerock - that's so cool about DS2 being ballboy! Did he enjoy it? I have also put on weight over the last 2 months and I really need to shift it. But have decided I am not going to try for another week or so. I am going to continue with the carbs this week and then get on the pumpkin seeds next week. Apparently the zinc in pumpkin seeds is very good for fertility......
@kinsters - I hope your journey back to Malaysia is OK - how long is the flight? I'm still not fully over my jet lag but I slept better again last night. It will go eventually!

Also, I am at work today (due to our Sunday-Thursday work week) and I am so very bored! I have just applied for a new job which I would really like, so fingers crossed I get it.
I have been at my current place of work for 6 and a half years which is a long time and I really need a change of scenery and change of pace and just a change in general.......

Argh Rose68 what a nightmare! Try not to stress about it though- you need DP on board for further DTD!

Well AF finally came on here properly here after nearly a week of spotting so can turn on the fertility monitor! Told DH you can only get pregnant 6 days a month as it were after DTD and he couldn't believe it. Glad he was listening during Biology at school

I finally slept, but cb digital thing said blank circle this morning, which surprises me cause it’s always cd 12 or 13 and this is cd 13. I was totally expecting smiley face, hence the dtd last night. So maybe disasterous sex doesn’t matter so much now. Although I guess it does matter if we have dtd too early cause now it will have to be every day until ov. So no sperm recovery time.

@edidxb FX for the new job! Being bored at work isn’t much fun.
@Rachyrach83 I hope last night was okay.

Hi all
We didn’t make up and I was clearly a reluctant host as they only stayed a short time.
DH really pissing me off so just went to bed and to sleep!

Oh no re the disaster sex! Try not to worry too much though hun, from what I’ve been reading dtd everyday for up to 3 days is ok for Sperm, that’s why in SMEP plan they say every other day till positive OPK then everyday for 3 days during Ov (or similar). It’s hard not to get mad at them though!! Last month DH was constantly on about getting oral sex and I was like ‘are you kidding me?!’ But as that’s a normal part of our sex life he was sulking!!

Hi everyone, so sorry I've not been on much, I have been reading through... it looks like DH & I are splitting up. There's no one else involved but we've had a few really horrific arguments recently & there are some things you just can't forget or unhear.
He's gone out & I'm sat here with the dogs just feeling really sad. It's completely my decision & I know that it's the right one for me long term, but just absolutely gutted. We've only been married 6 months. Happy fucking new year 👍🏼

Oh ratherbeshowjumping are you ok? Do you have any IRL support you can access? You need to make the decision that is right for you but don't forget you have been under a lot of strain as a couple which will have an impact also. x

@rather

I hope you are ok
You two have been under such immense strain it's bound to take toll.
DH and I haven't been all roses since, he put a hole in the wall the day before my ERPC and we have had some real nasty arguments but that's not what we like 3 months ago and I'm confident it's not what we will be in 3 months time.
Are you sure time can't help to heal this?
Or even counselling? I've said some awful things to my DH that I'm not proud of, about his kids not being enough for me etc, but he knows it's not how I really feel (or perhaps he knows it's a try

sorry
Ctd..... a truth you keep unsaid as you both know it but it's not needed to be heard.

Just don't make rash decisions with hormones and emotions like this xxxxx