Over 40 ttc - winter baby dust for me!

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@hmmm123 my first month of using CB Advance OVulation kit was November. I had no LH surge got to day 17 in December and again though no surge then on day 18 I got a peak smiley and day 19 so I ovulated late. Just keep testing and fingers crossed!

So Ladies I’m now on pre cycle treatment and bricking it ! AF came Friday after a long TWW and a 31 day cycle 🤷‍♀️

Saline infusion and scratch scheduled for 23 jan now and all being well injections from 4th Feb as long as AF plays ball! I’m not really sure where my head is at! We have been advised not to dtd between now and scratch then nothing between then and EC if we even get that far. Is anyone else having treatment at the same time? I’m so nervous about the scratch and injections ( well all of it to be honest!)

DH is like not understanding the concept of not dtd ! Bless him it has been so difficult for the past 4 months trying to dtd on demand and now he’s like err what nothing 🤣🤣🤣 we’ve spent so many times trying to get the buggers in now trying to keep them out seems weird 🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for the welcome @littlemimosa!

@Gizmojo I don't want to get your hopes up but are you absolutely certain that's not implantation bleeding? That can happen 6-12 days after ovulation x

Onemorego - I find smu works best for me, as it's still quite strong but not fmu. It's usually around midday.

Mimosa - I did jump on him and temps have gone up today (although that may have been the beer) will have to wait and see. Do you think dtd on the evening of ovulation day is too late?
Wow you have a super long LP. I guess that matches up with your theory of low oestrogen, as in balance you would have high progesterone. The opposite of me! How are you finding the DHEA? Hopefully you may find next cycle a bit more balanced.

Hmmm I think your best bet would just be to get a few more dtd in before he goes just to cover all bases, then if you ovulate after he leaves then at least you have some swimmers ready.

Reality - good luck! I've got my hycosy on 31st Jan so will also be holding off dtd that cycle as I think after this months shorter cycle, ovulation will happen before the hycosy so no dtd at all! Then we'll be discussing my test results and a plan forward. Bricking it for that!

@ZoeRoma Afraid not, this is very heavy af. I’ve also had a couple of nights of such bad night sweats that I’ve had to get up and change pyjamas and the sheets, so things aren’t looking great with my hormones one way or another

Thinking of you melongoose today.... x

Hi all just wondering its been nearly two weeks since i miscarried ive been getting sharp little twinges in my womb mainly on right side but couple on left could i be ovulating ? Havent had a period i know they say can come between 4-6 weeks any advice be great

I am thinking of you too @Mellongoose, I haven’t stopped thinking about you. xxx

@Kj1010 yes that could be ovulation pain, I had ov pain on both sides about 2 weeks after my erpc. Some months it starts off on both sides, but then gets much stronger on one side.

For those of you taking dhea... have you noticed any improvement with pmt? I get very irritable the week before AF, which I don’t seem to be getting so much recently.

Sorry to hear your sad news Mellongoose.

Hmmmm, I also have a 24-26 day cycle and sometimes ov on cd9. Have you had any post-ov symptoms like creamy cm, weird dreams, feeling hotter?

Rose, I haven’t taken DHEA but when I take epo and b6, I don’t get PMT (or only very mild). I guess they all balance the hormones.

@Gizmojo Sorry to hear that x

Good luck @Realitysucks with the up coming procedures and poor dh.
@hmmm123 just keep dtd so you have swimmers in the tubes..
@littlemimosa big hugs at af arrival, we could be cycle twins... ov at the full moon and normally a 28/29 day gal, but app says I was due on yesterday so of course hopes really up till today as slight spotting and now cramps but it's bang on the new moon.. was soooo sure this was my month too as during my ov period my pheromones were making dh bonkers.. 😞😞
Could really do without my parents coming for lunch tomorrow.... 🤞🤞🤞 she just keeps quite and doesn't go out of her way to upset me... 😞
@Gizmojo big hugs for af arrival too
@Kj1010 sounds like ov twinges.. which is good
@onemorego2019 keep testing
@Cleozeta get busy..
hope I haven't missed anyone out..
sending massive hugs @mellongoose I think I can safely say you have been in all our thoughts and we are here for you.. lots of love.. 💕💕💕

Thanks guys. I’m just so upset as it was only 8dpo, my LP has never been that short before, just can’t understand it.

I have been away over Christmas and just checked in with you all. So utterly sorry for your news @mellongoose. That is beyond difficult as an ending for such a happy story. I wish so much that you hadn't had to go through this. Sending all my spare strength and hugs for your loss which must feel unendurable right now. I hope you have some of the kindest and most sympathetic people imaginable with you.

@littlemimosa and @gizmojo sory to hear your af has arrived. I hope you keep warm and well fed with lots of Christmas leftovers if there are any. I have some cheese left and I am bloody well going to eat a whole brie when my af arrives. Nom NOM! Due today but not here yet - I am feeling that it will come any minute as am feeling pretty crappy with all the usual aches and pains plus an extra cold and bad sore throat for good measure.

@Chatbash sounds like you have a bad day lined up tomorrow. I hope you get some time to yourself and I hope your af holds off until you have space to cope.

@gizmojo I had one of those really short LPs a while back but things went back to normal and am now regular again. I stressed out massively about it though. It was really worrying. But I think that things are only really worth worrying about if they get into a pattern and the worrying thing repeats itself a lot. I keep having to remind myself I am not a robot and that every month will be different. That helps a bit. Have you had other really short LPs? Any other signs that things are not good?

@Rose68 I am on dhea and have also noticed less PMT than I used to have. Would be interesting to know if it helps with that! Quite expensive it is that little pill ... wonder if I will eventually save the money back on spending less on tissues and chocolate!

@Alibaba2 I am on 26 day cycle and have all of those post ov symptoms sometimes. I think progesterone is responsible for the heat thing but not sure about the creamy cm and weird dreams. Progesterone is responsible for all the things that make me think I could have done it this month and be pregnant!

I am having to prepare for new job interview tomorrow so that will give me something else to think about whilst at the end of the 2ww. The bit I really don't like. It still makes me so nervous in the last few days that I end up feeling a bit sick and then get over excited thinking it might be morning sickness lol! Anyway tomorrow I will be busy.

Much love to all and a belated Happy New Year. May this one be a good one for all of us xxxxx

Cleo - I think sex on day of ovulation is always a good idea but deep down I’ve always felt that the few days before is best. They do say though that you have 12-24 hours after it’s has been released so fingers crossed. Yes a long LP does fit in with low oestrogen doesn’t it. Never heard of progesterone dominance tho.... typical of me to possibly have it!

Rose - I’ve only been taking DHEA for two weeks so it’s early days but now you mention it my pmt was very minimal this last cycle. Hope it is a side effect! Interesting.

Chat - keeping everything crossed for you still. It’s never over TIL the fat lady sings. Good luck tomorrow with your mother hun!

Kah - fingers crossed AF stays away and good luck for the interview.

Mellon - hope you’re ok. Thinking of you x

CD23 and potentially 7-9 dpo. Frer says no this morning (i know, still early days...ashamed to say its not the first Ive taken) so not hopeful this cycle, despite the aching back and kinda tender boobs, though these symptoms seem the norm now. Im officially out if opks and IC tests, so question is do I get onto Amazon and squander more money on them or go cold turkey and break the addiction, throw caution to the wind and let nature do what nature will do 🤔

@KahFen Since I’ve been temping again my LP looks to normally be about 11-12 days, which is what it was last time I got pregnant. As for other signs, as I say I’ve been having some night sweats - some pretty bad - mostly during LP and my bbt doesn’t seem to get as high as it used to but my coverline is also lower generally, poss because I’ve lost a lot of weight in the interim? Anyway you’re right, we’re not robots! I hope your interview goes/went well! X

Gizmojo have you had any hormone tests yet, day 3 fsh or day 21 progesterone? Might be worth checking those out, see where you are at?
My af has arrived early for the last 2 cycles as well. My usualy LP is 11 days byt the last two have been more like 9. I'm hoping it was realated to the DHEA I was taking and will go back to normal now I've stopped. Will have to wait and see. Have you taken anything new this last cycle?

Kahfen - good luck to you this cycle. I hope AF does not make an appearance today! Keeping busy is the best tactic.

Kj1010 - after my mc I ov'd about 2-3 weeks later. Quite soon after spotting finished, then 1st af came 11 days after that.

Chat - did AF come in the end?

Mimosa - yes I think progesterone dominance is rare! It's probably the better option to be honest, as if you do get a bfp, you'll have a nice load of progesterone to keep it going! Will be interesting to see what a full cycle of DHEA can do for you.

Minime - still early days - fingers crossed for you! I would totally buy more opk's, I know if I left it things would go weird and I'd drive myself nuts with no opks! Plus opk's are kind of fun....

As for me - have definitely ovulated now, am about 2 dpo and my temp rise is quite strong. Could be the vitex doing it's job. Plus I usually get sore boobs between ov and af but I had sore boobs just before ov this time and now they are not. Weird. Plus the oddity of ovulating 4 days after my 1st +opk, 3 days after my peak. Thats a long time right? Also missed the boat as we only dtd 3 days before ov and night of ov. Kind of writing this cycle off for bfp but interested to see what vitex does for my lp.
If I get another 9 day LP I'll cry. Maybe even wail.

@cleozeta No I’ve not had any tests yet. I’m going to make an appointment with GP about the night sweats but I don’t know if I’ll need to go private as suspect they won’t be interested in checking anything fertility-related because of my age (44). I don’t take anything at the moment other than pre-conception pregnacare, I’ve no idea where to start tbh!! Sounds good that you’ve got a good strong temp rise, hope the 2ww isn’t too stressful for you!

I was ill with a fever etc at the start of this cycle and on antibiotics but that wouldn’t affect things would it?

@KahFen... you wrote..I have some cheese left and I am bloody well going to eat a whole brie when my af arrives. Nom nom!! ...that made me lol! 😁
As for me I have dtd twice so far this cycle and feel ovulation could be right now as boobs suddenly gone hard and v.sore. we haven't dtd yesterday.. that's the problem. I gave a sore throat and feel rubbish atm but am going to have to dtd unless already ovulated. I think i must have as the mucus has calmed down now and has turned creamer...sorry tmi!

Cleo - how does the ewcm fit into your ovulation picture? I’ve never heard of ovulation 3-4 days after peak opk but honestly anything is possible I say. Especially at our ripe old age.

Cleo the month I got my BFP the opk surge was positive on the Tues morning but Ava detected ovulation /temps rose on the Friday so yes it can be that long if Ava was right, but I wasn't measuring ewcm.